The image Bioware has shown depicts rocks that are not connected to the ground but floating in the air, something that is physically not possible.
Then I suppose it's convenient that Mass Effect includes instances of non-real-world physics... the Mass Effect, for example.
Then I suppose it's convenient that Mass Effect includes instances of non-real-world physics... the Mass Effect, for example.
The Mass Effect works with real physics, but just uses an exotic material to do what it does. Even the Mass Effect doesn't allow plain rocks to float. This is just magic. So much for hoping that Mass Effect would try to be a science fiction game. Looks like it is going to be space fantasy.
The Mass Effect works with real physics, but just uses an exotic material to do what it does. Even the Mass Effect doesn't allow plain rocks to float. This is just magic. So much for hoping that Mass Effect would try to be a science fiction game. Looks like it is going to be space fantasy.
I'm just gonna gloss over the fact that you just claimed that the use of a fictional material to change physics somehow doesn't count as non-real-world-physics.
If rocks are floating, it's because some aspect of physics in the ME universe allow them to do so. There is no difference whatsoever between that and the justification for the Mass Effect, except that you haven't heard the explanation for floating rocks yet.
The fact that you are imagining a difference where there is none is a clear example of cognitive dissonance on your part. I recommend you confront and acknowledge this.
I'm just gonna gloss over the fact that you just claimed that the use of a fictional material to change physics somehow doesn't count as non-real-world-physics.
If rocks are floating, it's because some aspect of physics in the ME universe allow them to do so. There is no difference whatsoever between that and the justification for the Mass Effect, except that you haven't heard the explanation for floating rocks yet.
The fact that you are imagining a difference where there is none is a clear example of cognitive dissonance on your part. I recommend you confront and acknowledge this.
I didn't gloss over anything. I called it exotic matter. Exotic matter is a concept that physicists have theorized about for decades as a means of making FTL possible, and has been used by science fiction writers for just as long. Bioware even gave the Mass Effect a scientific explanation that can support itself. The only problem is the material doesn't exist.
Meanwhile giant rocks floating has only ever been considered as magic in science and even science fiction. As I said, the Mass Effect doesn't even allow objects to defy the laws of physics to that extent without causing even more problems. If they are artificial structures then possibly, but we see these in the E3 trailer and they were just rocks. For the Mass Effect to work there results in the fact that you couldn't drive there since the magnetic field would rip the Mako and you apart.
Thus there is no cognitive dissonance to acknowledge because the comparison is a false equivalence.
I don't pretend to completely understand it, but apparently, theoretically, floating rocks might be possible given exactly the right conditions.
https://en.wikipedia...Meissner_effect
This was what they were basing those floating land masses off of in Avatar, which is admittedly not an example of foolproof science, but this part at least has a basis, shaky as it might be. I don't think it's that much more magical than the mass effect fields.
Besides, it looks pretty cool.
Edit: Avatar, the "Hallelujah Mountains":
http://james-cameron...lujah_Mountains
I didn't gloss over anything. I called it exotic matter. Exotic matter is a concept that physicists have theorized about for decades as a means of making FTL possible, and has been used by science fiction writers for just as long. Bioware even gave the Mass Effect a scientific explanation that can support itself. The only problem is the material doesn't exist.
Meanwhile giant rocks floating has only ever been considered as magic in science and even science fiction. As I said, the Mass Effect doesn't even allow objects to defy the laws of physics to that extent without causing even more problems. If they are artificial structures then possibly, but we see these in the E3 trailer and they were just rocks. For the Mass Effect to work there results in the fact that you couldn't drive there since the magnetic field would rip the Mako and you apart.
Thus there is no cognitive dissonance to acknowledge because the comparison is a false equivalence.
No, they are exactly equivalent. The Mass Effect is a non-real effect to explain why an (as far as we know) impossible thing is happening. Since (as far as we know) rocks can't float, it follows that there is another non-real effect to explain how that is occurring as well.
You are having difficulty with that because your cognitive dissonance has led you to believe that I was saying the Mass Effect was causing those rocks to float, when I actually wasn't saying that at all, in order to maintain your existing belief that there can be no explanation for why those rocks are floating.
By the way, we do have instances of things floating that shouldn't in ME; it has been shown to happen as the result of biotics. If biotics can cause things to float, then how can you honestly say that there can't possibly be any other effect on that planet causing things to float?
No, they are exactly equivalent. The Mass Effect is a non-real effect to explain why an (as far as we know) impossible thing is happening. Since (as far as we know) rocks can't float, it follows that there is another non-real effect to explain how that is occurring as well.
You are having difficulty with that because your cognitive dissonance has led you to believe that I was saying the Mass Effect was causing those rocks to float, when I actually wasn't saying that at all, in order to maintain your existing belief that there can be no explanation for why those rocks are floating.
By the way, we do have instances of things floating that shouldn't in ME; it has been shown to happen as the result of biotics. If biotics can cause things to float, then how can you honestly say that there can't possibly be any other effect on that planet causing things to float?
That's a really good point. Biotics might be most space magical thing of them all, and within the context of the Mass Effect lore, it's completely plausible that a high concentration of their source, element zero, might cause spectacular phenomenon.
I don't pretend to completely understand it, but apparently, theoretically, floating rocks might be possible given exactly the right conditions.
https://en.wikipedia...Meissner_effect
This was what they were basing those floating land masses off of in Avatar, which is admittedly not an example of foolproof science, but this part at least has a basis, shaky as it might be. I don't think it's that much more magical than the mass effect fields.
Besides, it looks pretty cool.
Edit: Avatar, the "Hallelujah Mountains":
And the Hallelujah Mountains would have killed everyone aboard the helicopters and ripped the helicopters to shreds. The magnetic field required to lift rocks that size would instantly rip every atom of iron from their bodies. Same with any Mass Effect-related method, since that involves electromagnetism.
"It looking cool" is a terrible practice when it comes to wanting to create a believable world. That's the train of thought that led to being able to bring Shepard, a person who burned up in reentry then impacted the ground at a speed(despite there being nothing left at that point) that would turn them to mush, back from the dead because "resources".
And the Hallelujah Mountains would have killed everyone aboard the helicopters and ripped the helicopters to shreds. The magnetic field required to lift rocks that size would instantly rip every atom of iron from their bodies. Same with any Mass Effect-related method, since that involves electromagnetism.
"It looking cool" is a terrible practice when it comes to wanting to create a believable world. That's the train of thought that led to being able to bring Shepard, a person who burned up in reentry then impacted the ground at a speed(despite there being nothing left at that point), back from the dead because "resources".
My only point is that we don't know the explanation yet, and I think you're jumping the gun by casting judgement before we find out.
Good God. Please take the raving off the tweet feed. Make another post debating stuff. I sincerely don't want this awesome-sauce post to shut down over a squabble of real/noreal physics.
Good God. Please take the raving off the tweet feed. Make another post debating stuff. I sincerely don't want this awesome-sauce post to shut down over a squabble of real/noreal physics.
One discussion, I might add, that should have little to do with MEA, As much as I'd like some real science in sci-fi, that's not their point. Certainly it was never the point of Mass Effect.
Again with the physically impossible floating rocks.
You need to release your mind from the constraints of earth physics.
Are they really rocks? Does this planet have some unexplained phenom that allows this? Is it merely an optical illusion? Why are the rocks on the ground making furrows in the soil?
The whole ME series must have driven you crazy with all of the impossibilities.
The Mass Effect works with real physics, but just uses an exotic material to do what it does. Even the Mass Effect doesn't allow plain rocks to float. This is just magic. So much for hoping that Mass Effect would try to be a science fiction game. Looks like it is going to be space fantasy.
LOL, works with real physics just uses an 'exotic' material. Okay, all of those rocks are being affect my mass effect fields. Happy?
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I get the untopic but can you post the uncivil words/phrase please? Or is this thread all about Bio marketing via repeating tweets from Twitter?
Okay, I think that everyone is missing the elephant in the room. And that is eezo. What is eezo? Well, I'm glad you asked! Eezo is a material that when applied with a small electrical charge forces things to move. Now, could there be enough electrical charge in those mountains? Possibly. If there is enough copper and another dissimilar metal (see https://en.wikipedia...ki/Thermocouple) and enough eezo, I think the mountains can float.
Do I like it without explanation? HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELL no. EDIT : I barely like the explanation that I gave.
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