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[zhk3r]

Because he's a close quarters Glass Cannon of awesomeness!
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Point me to the person who started the nasty rumour saying Human Adept is bad and I'll show you a liar! The Human Adept is awesome. He/she doesn't have a jiggly bumbum, but that doesn't make it a bad class. Just because the Human doesn't have tentacles on their heads doesn't mean they're incapable of dealing mass damage with blu'splosions.

I've about had it with the Human Adept hate. I'm almost at the point where I make a "LEAVE THE HUMAN ADEPT ALONE!"-video. If you're having issues playing the character, maybe you should change your playstyle. This is not a long range biotic, this is a close quarters warrior of awesome that can stagger and immobilize enemies all on his own. Without even shooting his gun. "Oh but Stasis!" - Stasis has a long recharge, spamming it is not a possibility. And it doesn't look as pretty as Singularity does.

Link to the video!
Link to the build! 

DISCLAIMER: The thread text was intended as "funny". If you didn't find it funny and feel bad for your Asari Adept I'm truly sorry. I didn't mean to hurt her, I'm also fond of her. But I enjoy my Human more (: This is video contains commentary, if that's not your thing that sucks, I guess.

Modifié par zhk3r, 09 juin 2012 - 02:28 .

[GaryMaple]

Ah my first level 20 character. Almost as amazing as the Eagle.

[ParkBom]

Exactly! Singularity for Radius not Detonation is amazing.

[AdamWeith]

Of course a Human Adept excels over an alien one. The Human race is superior to all other Council races, after all.

Beware the Alien, the Mutant, the Heretic. The Illusive Man protects.

[A Wild Snorlax]

My drell with 7 cluster grenades disagrees o_O

[zhk3r]

A Wild Snorlax wrote...

My drell with 7 cluster grenades disagrees o_O

Lawl. Bringing 'nades is unfair!

[Sbri]

HAs are also good for mid-range crowd control when used tactically in doorways and ramps.

[ericjdev]

Singulariy took a beating on the what's the worst skill in the game thread. I don't play human adept much but I always thought it was an OK skill. I said on that thread that Shockwave was the worst skill in the game, you make them both look good.

[A Wild Snorlax]

zhk3r wrote...

A Wild Snorlax wrote...

My drell with 7 cluster grenades disagrees o_O

Lawl. Bringing 'nades is unfair!

Indeed. I'll go ahead ad watch the video though, may learn something as I don't use the HA much.

One thing I had problems with in the past was phantoms when playing cerberus. Do you just not play cerberus with the HA or do you have a way of dealing with them? Talon is not that great against them without staggering them first.

[PaperAlien]

That's pretty much how I play. Except I go 6/6/5/6/3, choose detonate for Warp and Singularity, and only evolve Shockwave to rank 5. Strongest biotic explosions ever.

[hihey54]

The problem with HA is that they are mostly effective on small, closed maps.
However, people hate to play on small, closed maps. They usually play on Dagger/Giant/Hydra. And on such maps, HA does not perform as good as other Adepts (especially AA).

[zhk3r]

A Wild Snorlax wrote...

Indeed. I'll go ahead ad watch the video though, may learn something as I don't use the HA much.

One thing I had problems with in the past was phantoms when playing cerberus. Do you just not play cerberus with the HA or do you have a way of dealing with them? Talon is not that great against them without staggering them first.

Well. It's not foolproof, but..

> Shoot so they use their super ninja dodge
> Warp and hope for the best.
> Shockwave - Which 'splodes them.
> Repeat. 

They usually go invisible after that, so I finish them off with whatever gun I'm using.

[Gamemako]

I respect your skill, sir, but this is surprisingly absurd. You're running with a Talon X and dealing more than half of your damage with it while talking about the other skills. You aren't stunlocking anyone with Singularity (because it doesn't stunlock), you're just shooting them with a weapon that deals as much damage as a Mantis X sniper rifle (and you add level 3 pistol mod on top of that). Then you tell people to use a Scimitar, which deals exactly 40 damage against armor! Even with a Shredder mod, it loses 40% of its already-underwhelming damage! Sweet Jesus, man!

[Star fury]

Asari adept is still best.

[zhk3r]

Gamemako wrote...

I respect your skill, sir, but this is surprisingly absurd. You're running with a Talon X and dealing more than half of your damage with it while talking about the other skills. You aren't stunlocking anyone with Singularity (because it doesn't stunlock), you're just shooting them with a weapon that deals as much damage as a Mantis X sniper rifle (and you add level 3 pistol mod on top of that). Then you tell people to use a Scimitar, which deals exactly 40 damage against armor! Even with a Shredder mod, it loses 40% of its already-underwhelming damage! Sweet Jesus, man!

You obviously invested countless hours into playing the Human Adept since you know for a fact that Singularity doesn't stunlock shielded enemies!.. Wonder how I'm able to do it every single time if it doesn't do that .. :/ Hmm. Must be my game.

Oh, and since you didn't watch the video

Modifié par zhk3r, 09 juin 2012 - 02:23 .

[hihey54]

zhk3r wrote...



Well. It's not foolproof, but..

> Shoot so they use their super ninja dodge
> Warp and hope for the best.
> Shockwave - Which 'splodes them.
> Repeat. 

They usually go invisible after that, so I finish them off with whatever gun I'm using.

It won't work. Hitting a Phantom with Warp is REALLY hard, and can be done only if she's somehow stunlocked. They will either pop up their barrier thing or just dodge it again.
Best thing to do would be using some shockwaves while shooting at them, waiting for their barriers to deplete and then throw a Singularity.
However, it will take a lot more time compared to Reave/Stasis users...

[Elite3141]

PaperAlien wrote...

That's pretty much how I play. Except I go 6/6/5/6/3, choose detonate for Warp and Singularity, and only evolve Shockwave to rank 5. Strongest biotic explosions ever.

Explosions would be stronger if you took Shockwave to Rank 6.  The strength of a Biotic Explosion is determined by the ranks of the two powers used to create it.

And the Human Adept may have the strongest Biotic Explosions in the game, but Singularity is still a bad power.  And the Human Adept is only good on tight maps like Glacier.

[Gamemako]

zhk3r wrote...

You obviously invested countless hours into playing the Human Adept since you know for a fact that Singularity doesn't stunlock shielded enemies!.. Wonder how I'm able to do it every single time if it doesn't do that .. :/ Hmm. Must be my game.

Just went through this same thing in another thread, and I did just spend hours testing every opponent type. It stunlocks no-one. Geth are worst, since their shielded enemies will absolutely DESTROY you.

When I figure out why FRAPS isn't working, I'll post a video demonstrating it.

[Tybo]

Nice. I also enjoy the human adept. I have a quick question re: build.

Do you find pierce and lifting shockwave very useful? I use recharge speed there, because I usually use a heavier weapon (Claymore, Graal, Wraith, Harrier). Also, do you ever notice the lifting damage of singularity, or do you think recharge speed is a viable alternative?

Thanks

[-Morbid-]

Your build link has the "damage" option taken at rank 4 of warp rather than "detonate" like you mentioned in the video. Just figured I would point that out if it was a mistake.

I should give the class a try again. When I was playing the demo with friends and we were all noobs playing in bronze I loved my human adept with a Shuriken (lol), but after I got better with the other classes and unlocked the other adepts, I never went back to the human.

[Apl_Juice]

Human Adept was my favorite anti-Reaper until the Kishok was nerfed.

[zhk3r]

tyhw wrote...

Nice. I also enjoy the human adept. I have a quick question re: build.

Do you find pierce and lifting shockwave very useful? I use recharge speed there, because I usually use a heavier weapon (Claymore, Graal, Wraith, Harrier). Also, do you ever notice the lifting damage of singularity, or do you think recharge speed is a viable alternative?

Thanks

I use it because I find it amusing to watch Marauders float =P Otherwise I'd just go Recharge Speed. 

[zhk3r]

-Morbid- wrote...

Your build link has the "damage" option taken at rank 4 of warp rather than "detonate" like you mentioned in the video. Just figured I would point that out if it was a mistake.

I should give the class a try again. When I was playing the demo with friends and we were all noobs playing in bronze I loved my human adept with a Shuriken (lol), but after I got better with the other classes and unlocked the other adepts, I never went back to the human.

Thank you good, sir! Fixed. 

He's a lot of fun, that's for sure. 

[TheMightyG00sh]

Gamemako wrote...

I respect your skill, sir, but this is surprisingly absurd. You're running with a Talon X and dealing more than half of your damage with it while talking about the other skills. You aren't stunlocking anyone with Singularity (because it doesn't stunlock), you're just shooting them with a weapon that deals as much damage as a Mantis X sniper rifle (and you add level 3 pistol mod on top of that). Then you tell people to use a Scimitar, which deals exactly 40 damage against armor! Even with a Shredder mod, it loses 40% of its already-underwhelming damage! Sweet Jesus, man!

By those rights Tactical Cloak is the worst ability in game because all your kills come from that Krysae or Widow...

[zhk3r]

TheMightyG00sh wrote...

Gamemako wrote...

I respect your skill, sir, but this is surprisingly absurd. You're running with a Talon X and dealing more than half of your damage with it while talking about the other skills. You aren't stunlocking anyone with Singularity (because it doesn't stunlock), you're just shooting them with a weapon that deals as much damage as a Mantis X sniper rifle (and you add level 3 pistol mod on top of that). Then you tell people to use a Scimitar, which deals exactly 40 damage against armor! Even with a Shredder mod, it loses 40% of its already-underwhelming damage! Sweet Jesus, man!

By those rights Tactical Cloak is the worst ability in game because all your kills come from that Krysae or Widow...

And it's funny how he claims all the damage/kills comes from my weapon when I've got 50 + Biotic kills and 25 + Pistol kills.