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[felipejiraya]

The trailer of Prometheus was better than the film itself, which sucks since I was really anxious to see the movie. :/

[Ravenmyste]

Total Biscuit wrote...

 Just to clarify for those who aren't aware of how this fits into the Aliens universe;

Prometheus is set before Alien, Aliens, 3 and Resurrection, in the same universe and canon, but with its own connected but basically seperate narrative.

This is an alternate past to the AvP films, that is now te 'real' past for the Alien franchise, and is effectively writing those two cack fests out of the Alien universe canon. It's possible AvP is still canon for the Predator franchise though.

And on topic, dear gods no, Ridley Scott did not rip off a computer game for a new entry into one of the most legendary and well crafted Sci Fi universe ever made, that he created decades ago. Any homaging is Mass Effect swiping from the Alien universe, NOT the other way around.

THIS once i saw that known alien ship with the big alien in the chair i knew this was before   the aliens trilogy, i going to love it but  besides that  i would like to state this really has no place on me3 board aside from the movie looking really good  story wise

[arne1234]

when the ship leaves giant doors open It's entirly possible that there where other non explored area's that actually containend the labs

[Leafs43]

felipejiraya wrote...

The trailer of Prometheus was better than the film itself, which sucks since I was really anxious to see the movie. :/

I think many people who say the trailer was better went into Prometheus expecting a "jump out of your chair" shock type of movie and not a more of a psychological hard sci fi film.



Prometheus does make you think and speculate a lot more than Alien ever did.


Think about it this way, if it was a completely different planet, now the Alien franchise has something to really build off of.

Modifié par Leafs43, 09 juin 2012 - 07:06 .

[Ravenmyste]

Leafs43 wrote...

felipejiraya wrote...

The trailer of Prometheus was better than the film itself, which sucks since I was really anxious to see the movie. :/

I think many people who say the trailer was better went into Prometheus expecting a "jump out of your chair" shock type of movie and not a more of a psychological hard sci fi film.



Prometheus does make you think and speculate a lot more than Alien ever did.

aye it does even with very first trailer i saw when you see the " big u alien ship" that brought the aliens to other worlds, i rather like how they go into the story of the ship that brought them into being and how it connects to the aliens trilogy. great okay i am going to stop becasue it cant be good to talk about this on a board that has no place for it on ME3 story and campaign discussion

Modifié par Ravenmyste, 09 juin 2012 - 07:09 .

[SilverBecker]

I blame Damon Lindelof for the plot holes and lack of answers. Everything he works on is the same way.

FYI Lindelof wrote LOST so yeah, Prometheus was doomed to be "mysterious" and not answer any questions from the start.

[felipejiraya]

Leafs43 wrote...

felipejiraya wrote...

The trailer of Prometheus was better than the film itself, which sucks since I was really anxious to see the movie. :/

I think many people who say the trailer was better went into Prometheus expecting a "jump out of your chair" shock type of movie and not a more of a psychological hard sci fi film.



Prometheus does make you think and speculate a lot more than Alien ever did.


Think about it this way, if it was a completely different planet, now the Alien franchise has something to really build off of.

And that's the point: even the psychological aspect of the movie is shallow, it lacks complexity and when you leave the movie theater it doesn't stimulate big discussions about it. 

I expected from Ridley Scott, the script really had potential to be the greatest sci-fi movie of the last 20 years. 

[Leafs43]

felipejiraya wrote...

Leafs43 wrote...

felipejiraya wrote...

The trailer of Prometheus was better than the film itself, which sucks since I was really anxious to see the movie. :/

I think many people who say the trailer was better went into Prometheus expecting a "jump out of your chair" shock type of movie and not a more of a psychological hard sci fi film.



Prometheus does make you think and speculate a lot more than Alien ever did.


Think about it this way, if it was a completely different planet, now the Alien franchise has something to really build off of.

And that's the point: even the psychological aspect of the movie is shallow, it lacks complexity and when you leave the movie theater it doesn't stimulate big discussions about it. 

I expected from Ridley Scott, the script really had potential to be the greatest sci-fi movie of the last 20 years. 

I think Ridley Scott said it was done the way it was for a second part.

There were too many questions of "Why?" left hanging in the air.

[Faded-Myth]

It's funny whenever I see people say the Alien films ripped off Dead Space/Halo/Mass Effect. Those examples are far worse given the age of those movies, but regardless, Prometheus is not ripping off anything. Ridley Scott's Alien was one of the first sci-fi films to change the way we look at space and science-fiction in general. Its influences are still strongly felt in subsequent games and films today (which, as a fan of Halo, I freely acknowledge that Halo draws more than a few ties from Aliens as well.) I will admit that the Prometheus ship's design bears a striking resemblance to the Serenity, but that's as far as I see.

People forget that Ridley Scott's also a very talented artist who comes up with a lot of ideas, such as the ships and vehicles, which then get fleshed out in the art department. He even designed Fifield's hairstyle.

But yeah, saw the film last night at IMAX and loved it. Seeing that it was LV-223 was a surprise, since I was dead sure it was going to be LV-426 (which I'm assuming is one of the other 2 moons). Opens up a bunch of questions, but my guess is that, since it was revealed that there's more of the Derelict ships out there, the xenomorph at the end probably makes it way into one of them. Likely, at least one of those ships is bound to have a living Engineer on board, also in stasis. Ship then crashes flying over LV-426. But that's total conjecture and hack guess-work on my part.

I'm excited for the sequel.

Modifié par Faded-Myth, 09 juin 2012 - 07:58 .

[Baa Baa]

SilverBecker wrote...

I blame Damon Lindelof for the plot holes and lack of answers. Everything he works on is the same way.

FYI Lindelof wrote LOST so yeah, Prometheus was doomed to be "mysterious" and not answer any questions from the start.

That was what I thought they actually did well in the movie....

[eternalnightmare13]

Obadiah wrote...

Prometheus even has a whole "Creations rebelling against Creators" thing going on.

Seriously, dude.  HAve you never watched or read Frankestein - same theme.  Seen Blade Runner....

I could go on and one and way over your head, but the point is  Mass Effect is not the end all be all of sci-fi like a lot of you think it is.  Read a book, no not fan fiction BW spews out, or watch a real movie.  Otherwise STFU!

[Lawrence0294]

TMA LIVE wrote...

Leafs43 wrote...

Because it shows how asinine you are being.


Do we manufacture chemical weapons in secret labs or aircraft carriers?

Are you saying the lab is the room full of dirt with worms?

Because the ship is the truck in your comparision. Not the lab.

Hell, it doesn't matter which. Deadly Goo that mutants **** in room full of dirt and worms.

Probably at the time it was put in, the room was clean and without worms. After 2000, things tend to get muddier

[DRTJR]

Just saw Prometheus, it was great.

Actually do the Aliens in Battleship environment suits look like the Quarian's.

[dsprado956]

Makrys wrote...

If they make a ME movie about Shepard, it will be a male Shepard. Sorry, but it would be. It would also most likely be CGI (Beowulf) so they use the actual VAs from the games.

If I want CGI, I'll play the video game over again. CGI is overrated and is used way too much in cinema.

[Mcfly616]

dsprado956 wrote...

Makrys wrote...

If they make a ME movie about Shepard, it will be a male Shepard. Sorry, but it would be. It would also most likely be CGI (Beowulf) so they use the actual VAs from the games.

If I want CGI, I'll play the video game over again. CGI is overrated and is used way too much in cinema.

Hmm....idk.....I thought the CGI "Take Back Earth" trailer was actually how it would/should've been in the game.....sadly Priority Earth doesn't even come close to the awesomeness of the trailer.....so, I can see the possibility of CGI film being more gratifying than a videogame.....and ME3 certainly proved it

[EricHVela]

Prometheus is a movie that didn't end. It was the beginning to something else.

It doesn't even lead directly into Alien.

My question here is:

How does it in any way have anything to do with Mass Effect 3 Story and Campaign?

ME3 is the end of a series and not the start of one.
ME3 has crazy doors that are a signature of BWE. Prometheus does not.
ME3 has a lot of cover-based combat. There's none of that in Prometheus.
ME3 is very colorful. Add Prometheus to the drab colors found in Alien and Aliens.
ME3 is teaming with life. Add Prometheus to the barren environment of Alien and Aliens.
I cannot equate any Prometheus special effects moment to ME3 or vice versa.
If someone is thinking that haptic-holointerfaces are the link between them, that's pretty weak.

So... why is this thread here?

Modifié par ReggarBlane, 09 juin 2012 - 09:20 .

[The Angry One]

ReggarBlane wrote...

If someone is thinking that haptic-holointerfaces are the link between them, that's pretty weak.

And everybody seems to ignore the fact that those appeared in The Spirits Within before and in fact the Mass Effect art team took inspiration from that (they probably appeared elsewhere first but I don't remember).

Modifié par The Angry One, 09 juin 2012 - 09:39 .

[TMA LIVE]

Prometheus is being discussed here because it's a movie that has similarities with ME3 in that it's filled with plot holes that don't match up with the current lore, with the excuse that it's all about speculation. Some also believe they're both messes.

That, and it's the next big Sci-fi film, that'll probably influence whoever's in charge of Mass Effect. I'm also sure Bioware would like to know our opinions on the film.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 09 juin 2012 - 09:51 .

[Obadiah]

TMA LIVE wrote...
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What makes her statement ambiguous? She even leaves a message claiming the same thing.
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She tells David something pretty close to, "They created us, then they tried to destroy us. I deserve an answer."

The last thing she says in the log as she leaves in the alien ship is, "I'm still searching."

So, her intentions from that seem pretty open ended, but the look David gives her when she says she is going to find them, to me indicated that he knew what she wanted to do - bring the death the Engineers had planned for humanity to them.

[Obadiah]

eternalnightmare13 wrote...
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Mass Effect is not the end all be all of sci-fi like a lot of you think it is.  Read a book...

I don't think anyone here claimed Mass Effect to be the end all of sci-fi. Perhaps you should have another look at the thread.

Cup of tea, ma'am?

[Dantanius]

Oh, Man! I really want to see the movie. Want to see what happens.

[The Angry One]

Obadiah wrote...

She tells David something pretty close to, "They created us, then they tried to destroy us. I deserve an answer."

And the answer is... to kill them so they won't be killed by synthetics! :happy:

[TMA LIVE]

The Angry One wrote...

Obadiah wrote...

She tells David something pretty close to, "They created us, then they tried to destroy us. I deserve an answer."

And the answer is... to kill them so they won't be killed by synthetics! :happy:

Almost sounds as bad as that. They want to kill use, by dropping black goo in our home world, that'll turn turn everyone into unstoppable monsters, that'll most likely try to kill them as well. And ended up being killed by the thing they made to try and kill us.

[Obadiah]

TMA LIVE wrote...
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Almost sounds as bad as that. They want to kill use, by dropping black goo in our home world, that'll turn turn everyone into unstoppable monsters, that'll most likely try to kill them as well. And ended up being killed by the thing they made to try and kill us.

The mural in the first chamber shows a creature fairly similar to what is born from the Engineer at the end. It looks like they intended to create these things from us. As David says, "in order to create, it is sometimes necessary to destroy."

Why did they create us, or want to destroy us? As Captain Jenek said, "I don't care."

If we ever get a movie with the answer, it may turn out to be as unsatisfying as the one at the end of Mass Effect.

[TMA LIVE]

Obadiah wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...
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Almost sounds as bad as that. They want to kill use, by dropping black goo in our home world, that'll turn turn everyone into unstoppable monsters, that'll most likely try to kill them as well. And ended up being killed by the thing they made to try and kill us.

The mural in the first chamber shows a creature fairly similar to what is born from the Engineer at the end. It looks like they intended to create these things from us. As David says, "in order to create, it is sometimes necessary to destroy."

Why did they create us, or want to destroy us? As Captain Jenek said, "I don't care."

If we ever get a movie with the answer, it may turn out to be as unsatisfying as the one at the end of Mass Effect.

But I did find out a bunch of answers I didn't want. I found out that the Space Jockey is The Thing That Came From Outer Space, who left a bunch of deadly black goo sitting around for 2000 years, despite these creatures wanting humanity dead, and forgot to do it. And that the Alien Queen came from The Thing That Came From Outer Space and Star Beast, which came from a space zombie that impregnated his girlfriend.

And the movie ends with tease for a sequel, which will give you those answers you don't want.