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[dumdum2]

Mandolin wrote...

I have a question - is the act of playing the game not fun or do you have to win to enjoy yourself? If some teammates go down in a random game then suck it up and take it as a challenge. Games with good experienced players can sometimes be boring because there's no challenge.

I admit that I'm a sore loser, I take most things in life as a challenge and do my best to win. Winning in ME3 MP doesn't include being top scorer, I don't care about the score but instead I care of my team getting a full extraction. It should be fun to play, and I play for fun, but fun for me is winning and not losing.

If I want a challenge then I create a challenge. Like the time we played level 1 characters on Condor Geth Gold, or only Drells on Giant Reapers Gold, or using only the Eagle on 4 Infiltrators on Jade Reapers Gold. This time I only wanted to get the extraction for my commendation pack and I didn't want to spend 28 minutes to get it, because then I could just have done it on gold instead with a good team in 20 minutes.

[Meatiershower]

dumdum2 wrote... This time I only wanted to get the extraction for my commendation pack and I didn't want to spend 28 minutes to get it, because then I could just have done it on gold instead with a good team in 20 minutes.

It seems that is what you should have done? Maybe avoid the frustration?

[Sariv]

I got into a silver match with 3 people with N7 levels in their 30s, while mine is just over 1000. Needless to say I did not have a good time reviving all three of them five times a wave.

[dabull1014]

You might have had a match with Bronze players stepping up to silver for the challenge weekend. Or just some bad players. Or maybe you're just that awesome.

I play silver most of the time and I have N7 in the 1400s; most of the time there are good people out there, but once in a while it's a bad group, or bad team composition. The Cerberus Adept has bugged Fitness right now so they go down very easily.

That said, I played Cerberus/Jade/Silver with a Kroguard and scored 109k, on a four man team. Different people have different skill levels.

[Beerfish]

Yet another infiltrator blasting people for going down and being bad players. Another guy blasting people for going running off and yet he is not following at least one of them to help. Another guy blasting poorer players and not being good at carrying the team when he should be able to easily do it if he was as good as they chest thumps.

[Meatiershower]

Beerfish wrote...

Yet another infiltrator blasting people for going down and being bad players. Another guy blasting people for going running off and yet he is not following at least one of them to help. Another guy blasting poorer players and not being good at carrying the team when he should be able to easily do it if he was as good as they chest thumps.

I see it as a skilled player frustrated at playing a lower skill level with average players. It is understandable, and I sympathize. Easiest solution is to stay on Gold though. Have fun and link up with (hopefully) equally skilled players. 

[dumdum2]

ald0s wrote...
ok guys no cookies for you so stop bragging and saying that "ohh my gosh i´m good" <_< ! especially the op will never get a cookie from me again!!!

But I want my cookie

ald0s wrote...
Do something productive help them and stop attacking them!

I always leave my GT in the threads where people are asking for help on gold. I add them to my team and help them with tips about builds and strategies. I've had a lot of players who have added me because they had tried a lot in getting extraction on gold but never succeeded. It doesn't take them long to become regular gold players once they get some help. To this date I've helped over 30 players on this forum to take the step from silver up to gold.

Ohh God OP, stop bragging and eat your cookies!

(no bragging intended, just wanted you guys to know that I'm all for helping others develop, but that was never the subject of my opening post)

[JaimasOfRaxis]

I've seen a lot of players on Silver and Up killed by a simple unlucky spawn when they've been trying to head to an objective - not unlike that one room in Firebase White where enemies spawn because there's no way to get Line-of-Sight to the area from White's eponymous "Fun Fort." On gold, going through that area functionally demands a missile to do house-cleaning if you draw a hack objective. 

Sometimes two.

It happens. Running along, suddenly run into an area with like 3 assault troopers, gunned down, executed in short order. I saw it happen to one terminally-unlucky Asari Adept last night who was following right behind CeilingKid's Vorcha, only to be caught by a suddenly-spawned Geth Prime and his Pyro buddy on FB Goddess.

Modifié par JaimasOfRaxis, 09 juin 2012 - 02:25 .

[Beerfish]

Meatiershower wrote...

Beerfish wrote...

Yet another infiltrator blasting people for going down and being bad players. Another guy blasting people for going running off and yet he is not following at least one of them to help. Another guy blasting poorer players and not being good at carrying the team when he should be able to easily do it if he was as good as they chest thumps.

I see it as a skilled player frustrated at playing a lower skill level with average players. It is understandable, and I sympathize. Easiest solution is to stay on Gold though. Have fun and link up with (hopefully) equally skilled players. 

Shold a skilled gold player not have no problem at all carrying a silver team to the end without whining about it?

Play only gold and don't play and infiltrator who has a massive survivabilty advantage over other classes be humble about your abilities.

[dumdum2]

Beerfish wrote...

Yet another infiltrator blasting people for going down and being bad players. Another guy blasting people for going running off and yet he is not following at least one of them to help. Another guy blasting poorer players and not being good at carrying the team when he should be able to easily do it if he was as good as they chest thumps.

I play all classes so I'm not the typical "Infiltrator". And of course I tried to follow them and help them during the first waves, it was after all I who did the revives but it's kinda hard to be at 3 places at once to help everyone.

Not being good at carrying a team? What the heck are you talking about buddy?

[NobodyofConsequence]

Meh. Skill becomes a lot less relevant on any difficulty level when the game is consistently lagging 500ms and well upwards. I'm over it. But for the record, you'll often see, I surmise, people who would rather be playing gold but head to silver because of lag, only to find the lag is still bad enough to have enough of an impact on silver play that they go, sod it, Krogan on Bronze for the lulz.

But in order to make this at least somewhat on topic, I agree with everyone saying that communication can work wonders with the right audience. Not sure if that makes BSN an example for or against, mind you.

[CrazyStrokerXxX]

What I don't understand is my N7 rating is over 3000 and when I search for any games it never fails that I get no one with a N7 rating over 200.. and there stupid as hell in silver or gold.. Dam update

[Variasaber]

Well that's just great. Silver is basically all I play and I get full extractions most of the time, so I thought this challenge would be easy, but apparently every challenge weekend, everyone goes into full ****** mode.

[CC-Tron]

CrazyStrokerXxX wrote...

What I don't understand is my N7 rating is over 3000 and when I search for any games it never fails that I get no one with a N7 rating over 200.. and there stupid as hell in silver or gold.. Dam update

Questions. What do you get out of having an N7 of over 3000? What do you think it means?

Modifié par CC-Tron, 09 juin 2012 - 03:04 .

[N7 Spectre525]

I play gold and silver and have dealt with good and bad players on both difficulties. I dont label every gold player as bad because that would be stupid..there are thousands of people playing.
Not everyone plays 24-7 to hone their leet skills. Some people play to ...gasp have fun. I play silver more because its easier for me to find decent teamates and damn if 99% of gold lobbies I join aren't that firebase white farming bull****.

[LeeVEGETA]

I've had a few Silver matches today, and not seen any problems. We had a few mishaps to the end, but still got full extraction, and I'm almost exclusively a Bronze player

[ShadowWeaver2012]

I play mostly Bronze because Silver has too much chaos in it for me, but I just went with FBW last night a couple of times and we did ok. Played with randoms with no mics.

I do think that in Silver and Gold its very helpful to have mics on, but most people in random teams never have them. Oh wait, the last time I had someone with a mic he was complaining the whole time about someone else steal-killing.

Bottom line: If winning is how you have fun, then don't play random games. Too many variables, especially with no way to communicate if people don't use mics.

[neteng101]

What's so hard to understand here? I was asking about the general quality of players doing silver these days, nothing else.

Ask then, but you pre-judge in your question. Plus you seem to show no respect for anyone unless they match up to your definition of quality. It comes across very well actually, because you can't avoid straying off just asking the question and showing all your biases in the process.

Sure, gold can also be a walk in the park if there are at least 2-3 good players in the team, and why is that? Because of teamwork my friend, something that seems to be very rare on bronze and silver.

Plenty of teamwork from what I've seen on silver... you get oddball teams at times, and you have to be willing to carry at times more than others, but generally the teamwork is there. And haven't had much issues in bronze leveling up characters either... again like all public games, it can be hit/miss at times, but generally people do work together.

Although you get the occasional actually good player doing totally stupid things... like the infiltrator that was the last one alive, and felt the need to prolong objectives forever so they could just shoot as much as they wanted down in the wave. Hardly a lack of skill there, but all he did was sit back in his favorite spot and snipe the whole game, didn't even bother with objectives/etc until he was the only one left, and even then, it had to happen at the very end of the timer.

Modifié par neteng101, 09 juin 2012 - 03:09 .

[ryoldschool]

xbox - I played 8 hours on silver last night with randoms ( well for four hours I had one friend with me ). Out of the 16 matches or so, we only did not make extraction like twice - so I saw some pretty good players, and a very few knuckleheads ( one guy went afk mid match - somehow he did not get kicked ). Of course it helped that I was playing my Male Quarian Infiltrator and was using arc grenades like crazy ( started evening with 255 ammo packs, have 171 now ).

A lot of the comments are true about the gear ( or lack thereof ), also almost nobody applied ammo mods or other consumables ( I always do ), and some of those guys did not have much medi-gel or rockets, but we did good. The people I played with were far from bad.

[Nom-nom Nommer]

dumdum2 wrote...

Let me set you up with a scenario:

A team of four decides to slaughter the Reapers on Firebase Jade, all seems eager to complete the squad challenge this weekend since there are 1 Quarian Male Engineer, 1 Cerberus Adept and 1 Vorcha Soldier as your teammates. You are playing the Quarian Male Infiltrator for this one and think that it's going to be a relaxing change of pace from you regular gold matches.

You don't really pay attention to the weapon loadouts that your teammates has because after all it's only silver. Once in the game you notice that one of them is using the Krysae and one of them is using the Reegar, so you think a 15 minute match and full extraction would be easy. You use your standard Claymore X for this one.

Wave 1 starts, everyone is scattered on different places on the map and you start to think that even though it's making it harder to predict spawn zones, these guys probably know what they're doing and you are going to do an all out Rambo for this one. 10 seconds, 1 teammate is down, 20 seconds, another teammate is down.

Wave 2 starts. 10 seconds one teammate is down, 20 seconds, another teammate is down. Before the wave ended at least one teammate bled out and died.

Wave 3 and first objective. Your Infiltrator is going to do "activate device". You cloak at the first device and starts activating, while doing so the Cerberus Adept starts doing it as well making Ravagers, Marauders and Cannibals target you. You start to get irritated and walks away from the objective so the Adept can die in peace before you finish it. At the end of the wave all 3 teammates lie dead as you kill the last enemies.

Wave 4. 1 teammate quit. 10 seconds, teammate down, 30 seconds, another teammate down. 1-2 minutes both teammates have bled out.

Wave 5. Same as wave 4.

Wave 6. Hacking objective, 10 seconds, teammate is down, 15 seconds, another teammate is down. You revive them in the circle. 20 seconds, teammate is down, 25 seconds teammate is down. You revive. The pattern continues during the whole hack. After hack is complete you just leave them there to die and finish the wave yourself.

Wave 7. 1 teammate quit. 20 seconds, teammate got instakilled.

Wave 8. 20-40 seconds, teammate got instakilled.

Wave 9. 1 teammate quit. You are now the only player left in this match and you solo wave 9.

Wave 10. You got the new pizza delivery objective and solo wave 10.

Wave 11. You get a full extraction.


Seriously? Is this what silver has become? Have I really been away that long that I don't remember how players were on silver or are they just starting to get even worse now?

This is indeed a cool story, so if anyone wants to give me a cookie then by all means give it to me!

It's a combo of people coming up from  bronze, being overconfident from golds and playing characters and classes they have no clue how to and assuming everyone else will pick up their slack. I normally run 50/50 gold and silver and i noticed a sharp drop in the quality of my silver games...

[OhPa2]

Team chemistry? Player styles? Character choices? PUGs have a lot of variables.

I have had similar experiences with lost matches due to poor teamwork in Bronze and Silver PUGs but I wouldn't say it's just because the players were Bronze and Silver players. There are plenty of Bronze and Silver players who know how to play this game and do well.

Sometimes it's just the luck of the draw.

[chancellorroberts]

On our retrieval objective today one guy went the opposite direction of where he had to drop the item and also right into the enemy. There was a clear and direct path the the objective and he ignored it. When he died I made sure I picked up the item before reviving him.

Modifié par chancellorroberts, 09 juin 2012 - 03:21 .

[ryoldschool]

chancellorroberts wrote...

On our retrieval objective today one guy went the opposite direction of where he had to drop the item and also right into the enemy. There was a clear and direct path the the objective and he ignored it. When he died I made sure I picked up the item before reviving him.

Not everyone reads these fourms.  Some guys tried to run with it, also I had one guy go to the initial drop off zone instead of the extraction zone - obviously if its the first time you can get confused.

[owenbeast]

had people dying about 15 times a match on silver today i go down about once every 3-5 matches depending on what class I am which is usually male Quarian infiltrator on silver.

[capn233]

Hmm.

I know it is fashionable to **** about how bad everyone else is, but the silver games I did yesterday went off without a hitch basically. Then again, taking QME and nuking spawns sort of helps everyone out.  Even so, seemed like the random guys I was playing with were decent and knew what they were doing.

lipebattistella wrote...

btw, anyone want to take a HS to gold? around 80% of silvers i'm the first in score (without going rambo, just staying with group and suporting), and like 2/3 of the times people didnt kick me from gold for being soldier it went well enough. anyway my origin is febat if anyone want

Human Soldier is fine on Gold, especially with a good weapon. It is actually ok even with a mediocre weapon like the Predator.

Modifié par capn233, 09 juin 2012 - 03:33 .