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[Minic78]

Feneckus wrote...

Lore-wise, it doesn't make any sense that geth are ten times stronger than reapers. This has got to be fixed.

Buff all the enemies!11

'Cept geth. They provide an adequate challenge at this point.

[GuitarGuyJHx]

Also, I find cerberus turrets more annoying than anything Geth related

[zeal.assassin]

Get a FQI and get Sabotage to rank 6 and go play against the geth for revenge

[Velocithon]

And on top of it all, invisible Hunters sneak up and stagger you so fast by the time you recover, they just shoot and stagger again.

[mrcanada]

I can deal with the cheap accuracy and the rockets, but them firing 2 to 3 in succession is so laughably stupid I can barely contain myself. They do this all while strafing and never reloading.

[Zkyire]

XxTaLoNxX wrote...

Yeah... the title. BioWare I'm sick and ****ing tired of Geth Rocket Troopers having instant rocket lock-on from across a ****ing map. As soon as they spawn. Yeah, it's not uncommon to see 3-4 rockets flying towards my face as soon as a wave starts. Dodge you say? HAHAHAHAHA yeah.... go ahead try to dodge, that's less than 50% chance of success. Even for a good player.

You've buffed and buffed the Geth into the most powerful enemy now. Reapers? Pfftt anytime, anywhere. Geth?
F*** that s***! Hydra? Heck no! Between the Rocket Troopers and Primes nailing you from literally every part of the map it becomes a long range battle of undodgable bull****. Condor? Yeah right! Ever had a Rocket Troop nail you twice in a row by shooting a rocket between the gap of those cover pieces called fortifications?

Seriously, this is beyond frustrating. Not to mention the Hunter/Prime stagger against Krogans, Turians, and Batarians. Who are supposed to be our heavy troops and end up being our... well little chain-stunned sissies.

Seriously, I can't even stand playing against the Geth anymore.

Comments? Thoughts from BSN?

BTW - This is coming from a Gold difficulty standpoint, to which all of the Geth Grievances are thrice fold of any other difficulty. But if you feel they are difficult on other difficulties that's fine too.

Lore-wise, the Reaper faction should be the hardest.

Yet gameplay-wise the Geth are.

idunnowhat'sgoingonthere

[Killahead]

Why do people keep saying that the Geth have gotten much tougher lately? Conspiracy theories about ninja buffs again? I've been playing them on different maps on gold since the patch, and can't say I agree. Sure, you can no longer headshot the Prime and tech vulnerability from Sabotage isn't as crazy as it was, but they can still be dealt with fairly easy. A lot of players are trying out the quarian males now, and tactical scan provides a nice tool for spotting hunters and debuffing primes.

Rockets are annoying when latency or whatever makes them hit you even if you find cover long before they reach you, but other then that I have no problem with them.

[Mendelevosa]

Dunsky5 wrote...

Don't get shot by a rocket trooper then.

One does not simply avoid getting shot by Rocket Troopers.

[sareth_65536]

Killahead wrote...

Why do people keep saying that the Geth have gotten much tougher lately? Conspiracy theories about ninja buffs again? I've been playing them on different maps on gold since the patch, and can't say I agree. Sure, you can no longer headshot the Prime and tech vulnerability from Sabotage isn't as crazy as it was, but they can still be dealt with fairly easy. A lot of players are trying out the quarian males now, and tactical scan provides a nice tool for spotting hunters and debuffing primes.

Rockets are annoying when latency or whatever makes them hit you even if you find cover long before they reach you, but other then that I have no problem with them.

nevermind. They won't accept that they can't properly cover or dodge a missle or can't pay a little attention to the back to spot a hunter. They'd better cry to make an easy game more easy

Modifié par sareth_65536, 09 juin 2012 - 05:06 .

[Meatiershower]

Agree with the OP also. My favorite is the rocket troops' standing behind cover, double tapping two rockets at you, THEN breaking cover to move to another cover.

[Mendelevosa]

sareth_65536 wrote...

Killahead wrote...

Why do people keep saying that the Geth have gotten much tougher lately? Conspiracy theories about ninja buffs again? I've been playing them on different maps on gold since the patch, and can't say I agree. Sure, you can no longer headshot the Prime and tech vulnerability from Sabotage isn't as crazy as it was, but they can still be dealt with fairly easy. A lot of players are trying out the quarian males now, and tactical scan provides a nice tool for spotting hunters and debuffing primes.

Rockets are annoying when latency or whatever makes them hit you even if you find cover long before they reach you, but other then that I have no problem with them.

nevermind. They won't accept that they can't properly cover or dodge a missle or can't pay a little attention to the back to spot a hunter. They'd better cry to make an easy game more easy

Too bad Hunters can still terminate you from long ranges, regardless if you stagger or stun them. I don't care how anyone justifies it. Hunters should NOT be able to kill you while they are staggered and/or frozen.

Modifié par Mendelevosa, 09 juin 2012 - 05:09 .

[Mendelevosa]

 Geth being easy or hard is not the problem for me. They are just so relentlessly annoying.

They are just absolutely no fun to play against. I would rather face an army of Marauders and Phantoms than ever see another Geth unit ever again.

Modifié par Mendelevosa, 09 juin 2012 - 05:12 .

[Minic78]

sareth_65536 wrote...

Killahead wrote...

Why do people keep saying that the Geth have gotten much tougher lately? Conspiracy theories about ninja buffs again? I've been playing them on different maps on gold since the patch, and can't say I agree. Sure, you can no longer headshot the Prime and tech vulnerability from Sabotage isn't as crazy as it was, but they can still be dealt with fairly easy. A lot of players are trying out the quarian males now, and tactical scan provides a nice tool for spotting hunters and debuffing primes.

Rockets are annoying when latency or whatever makes them hit you even if you find cover long before they reach you, but other then that I have no problem with them.

nevermind. They won't accept that they can't properly cover or dodge a missle or can't pay a little attention to the back to spot a hunter. They'd better cry to make an easy game more easy

My thoughts exactly. I hope to see some buffs for reaper/cerberus rather than nerfing the geth.

Mendelevosa wrote...

 Geth being easy or hard is not the problem for me. They are just so relentlessly annoying.

They
are just absolutely no fun to play against. I would rather face an army
of Marauders and Phantoms than ever see another Geth unit ever again.

That's normal... everyone has a particularly irritating or infuriating enemy type/unit. Doesn't change the fact that the geth are still fairly simply countered.

Modifié par Minic78, 09 juin 2012 - 05:16 .

[MissMinaethiel]

sareth_65536 wrote...

Killahead wrote...

Why do people keep saying that the Geth have gotten much tougher lately? Conspiracy theories about ninja buffs again? I've been playing them on different maps on gold since the patch, and can't say I agree. Sure, you can no longer headshot the Prime and tech vulnerability from Sabotage isn't as crazy as it was, but they can still be dealt with fairly easy. A lot of players are trying out the quarian males now, and tactical scan provides a nice tool for spotting hunters and debuffing primes.

Rockets are annoying when latency or whatever makes them hit you even if you find cover long before they reach you, but other then that I have no problem with them.

nevermind. They won't accept that they can't properly cover or dodge a missle or can't pay a little attention to the back to spot a hunter. They'd better cry to make an easy game more easy

Ok, if it's so easy for you, why don't you go play FBHGG and come back to report to us how you faired against dozens of auto-aimed rockets from GRTs, stun-locking super cannons from Primes, and all of that while watching your back to prevent getting crisped by Pyros or stun-locked again by Hunters? One more thing as well: try it in a pug where communcation is either nonexistant or unhelpful.

You can say how easy it is all you want, but that does not change the fact that the Geth are fairly out of control

[Minic78]

MissMinaethiel wrote...
Ok, if it's so easy for you, why don't you go play FBHGG and come back to report to us how you faired against dozens of auto-aimed rockets from GRTs, stun-locking super cannons from Primes, and all of that while watching your back to prevent getting crisped by Pyros or stun-locked again by Hunters? One more thing as well: try it in a pug where communcation is either nonexistant or unhelpful.

You can say how easy it is all you want, but that does not change the fact that the Geth are fairly out of control

"Out of control."

Because they're brutal on one map in particular, alongside any other open maps, requiring unique tactics.

Yeahokay.

Let's just ignore the ability to literally control them

Modifié par Minic78, 09 juin 2012 - 05:19 .

[mikepaul]

Minic78 wrote...

sareth_65536 wrote...

Killahead wrote...

Why do people keep saying that the Geth have gotten much tougher lately? Conspiracy theories about ninja buffs again? I've been playing them on different maps on gold since the patch, and can't say I agree. Sure, you can no longer headshot the Prime and tech vulnerability from Sabotage isn't as crazy as it was, but they can still be dealt with fairly easy. A lot of players are trying out the quarian males now, and tactical scan provides a nice tool for spotting hunters and debuffing primes.

Rockets are annoying when latency or whatever makes them hit you even if you find cover long before they reach you, but other then that I have no problem with them.

nevermind. They won't accept that they can't properly cover or dodge a missle or can't pay a little attention to the back to spot a hunter. They'd better cry to make an easy game more easy

My thoughts exactly. I hope to see some buffs for reaper/cerberus rather than nerfing the geth.

So, now we have an idea of what Platinum should eventually be like.  Turn up the difficulty until one of THESE guys starts a complaint thread, then it's ready.

Meanwhile, mere mortals do want to play and have FUN.  I only look for Cerberus games now, and accept Unknown grudgingly.  And that's Bronze.  Silver, I will bail except for Cerberus.  Well, not if I get to carry 25 rocket launchers...

[FlamboyantRoy]

XxTaLoNxX wrote...

Yeah... the title. BioWare I'm sick and ****ing tired of Geth Rocket Troopers having instant rocket lock-on from across a ****ing map. As soon as they spawn. Yeah, it's not uncommon to see 3-4 rockets flying towards my face as soon as a wave starts. Dodge you say? HAHAHAHAHA yeah.... go ahead try to dodge, that's less than 50% chance of success. Even for a good player.

You've buffed and buffed the Geth into the most powerful enemy now. Reapers? Pfftt anytime, anywhere. Geth?
F*** that s***! Hydra? Heck no! Between the Rocket Troopers and Primes nailing you from literally every part of the map it becomes a long range battle of undodgable bull****. Condor? Yeah right! Ever had a Rocket Troop nail you twice in a row by shooting a rocket between the gap of those cover pieces called fortifications?

Seriously, this is beyond frustrating. Not to mention the Hunter/Prime stagger against Krogans, Turians, and Batarians. Who are supposed to be our heavy troops and end up being our... well little chain-stunned sissies.

Seriously, I can't even stand playing against the Geth anymore.

Comments? Thoughts from BSN?

BTW - This is coming from a Gold difficulty standpoint, to which all of the Geth Grievances are thrice fold of any other difficulty. But if you feel they are difficult on other difficulties that's fine too.

I here there's something called Teamwork that might help you in your most unfortunate dilemma. You seem quite irate. Why you so mad? The Geth are 'annoying' but if you actually utilize teamwork and skillful play they go down just like anything else. 

The Geth can be cheap, I'll give you that. But honestly, I like it. It's frustrating but it's different. We actually have to take them seriously now.....Outside of Firebase White. 

[Minic78]

mikepaul wrote...

Minic78 wrote...

sareth_65536 wrote...

Killahead wrote...

Why do people keep saying that the Geth have gotten much tougher lately? Conspiracy theories about ninja buffs again? I've been playing them on different maps on gold since the patch, and can't say I agree. Sure, you can no longer headshot the Prime and tech vulnerability from Sabotage isn't as crazy as it was, but they can still be dealt with fairly easy. A lot of players are trying out the quarian males now, and tactical scan provides a nice tool for spotting hunters and debuffing primes.

Rockets are annoying when latency or whatever makes them hit you even if you find cover long before they reach you, but other then that I have no problem with them.

nevermind. They won't accept that they can't properly cover or dodge a missle or can't pay a little attention to the back to spot a hunter. They'd better cry to make an easy game more easy

My thoughts exactly. I hope to see some buffs for reaper/cerberus rather than nerfing the geth.

So, now we have an idea of what Platinum should eventually be like.  Turn up the difficulty until one of THESE guys starts a complaint thread, then it's ready.

Meanwhile, mere mortals do want to play and have FUN.  I only look for Cerberus games now, and accept Unknown grudgingly.  And that's Bronze.  Silver, I will bail except for Cerberus.  Well, not if I get to carry 25 rocket launchers...

I guess we're weird for liking the challenge of U/U/G. Sure.

We should just drop out whenever the geth are chosen (which is goddamn 75% of the time), regardless of team composition or equipment use. They are just a relentless horde, and we must flee.

Seems reasonable.

[Cyonan]

Geth aren't really that hard imo. They're just really annoying because of the stunlocking they do. I highly doubt that's going to change since it would require revamping the entire faction since you'd have to give them something else in return if you took away the stunlock.

On a side note, I've noticed since the last patch that my Krogan are getting staggered a lot less by everything. Not sure if that's just me or not.

[Minic78]

ITT: Complaining about the hardest difficulty being hard. (I jest)

My point stands though.

[Feneckus]

sareth_65536 wrote...

nevermind. They won't accept that they can't properly cover or dodge a missle or can't pay a little attention to the back to spot a hunter. They'd better cry to make an easy game more easy

You obviously don't understand a word of what everyone is trying to say.

It's not that the Geth are hard to play against. Well, they are, but not that's not the problem. It's just they are so unbelievably cheap.

Your three teammates are behind cover somewhere, you try to flank those rocket troopers that are harrassing them, they have their backs to you, they'll shoot their rockets at you as soon as you make visual contact with them. That doesn't make any sense. And the fact they will shoot and THEN turn around is absolutely ridiculous. And then to make things worse, you'll be stunned and then a Geth Prime will shoot from across the damn map with unbelievable accuracy. An inch left/right and he would have missed. It's amazing that he even saw you.

And let's not forget how they can all shoot while staggered or even when they're in the air. Ridiculous. 

Being hard to play against is one thing, being cheap is another. That is false difficulty.

Whoever designed the Geth should be fired and tortured. And by tortured, I mean getting him to play solo against Geth on Gold for the rest of his life with a level 1 Krogan Soldier with a Shuriken. That will teach him.

[holdenagincourt]

I'll join in with the ranting!

Anyone ever had a Rocket Trooper shoot a missile around a corner at you, then roll to dodge the projectile power you were using to stun them while shooting off another missile in the middle of that roll animation? Of course they reach cover before you're out of the stun animation.  BioWare, please allow PCs to fire off instant powers in the middle of roll animation thanks in advance!

Anyone ever had a Hunter shoot you with its GPS while it's standing glowing white inside of a Stasis bubble? I was host in that game, by the way, so latency was not the issue. Hunters: "Your attacks are an insult. I sense your weakness, Asari Vanguard."

Oh, and to those who say the Geth don't have an insta-kill: when you get dropped by a death squad composed of a Prime, three Pyros and several Hunters who then proceed to mamba around your dead body as you mash the A button, hoping your teammates will just use a rocket, that is pretty much an insta-kill. There is no sense getting up with a Pyro in the vicinity because you will be ash before you regain control of your player character.

[Minic78]

Feneckus wrote...

sareth_65536 wrote...

nevermind. They won't accept that they can't properly cover or dodge a missle or can't pay a little attention to the back to spot a hunter. They'd better cry to make an easy game more easy

You obviously don't understand a word of what everyone is trying to say.

It's not that the Geth are hard to play against. Well, they are, but not that's not the problem. It's just they are so unbelievably cheap.

Your three teammates are behind cover somewhere, you try to flank those rocket troopers that are harrassing them, they have their backs to you, they'll shoot their rockets at you as soon as you make visual contact with them. That doesn't make any sense. And the fact they will shoot and THEN turn around is absolutely ridiculous. And then to make things worse, you'll be stunned and then a Geth Prime will shoot from across the damn map with unbelievable accuracy. An inch left/right and he would have missed. It's amazing that he even saw you.

And let's not forget how they can all shoot while staggered or even when they're in the air. Ridiculous. 

Being hard to play against is one thing, being cheap is another. That is false difficulty.

Whoever designed the Geth should be fired and tortured. And by tortured, I mean getting him to play solo against Geth on Gold for the rest of his life with a level 1 Krogan Soldier with a Shuriken. That will teach him.

This one has much rage inside.

Geth gonna geth. You know you secretly enjoy it. Embrace the masochism! Or play a class that's good against geth.

[Minic78]

Three defensive abilities I believe trivialize the geth:

Tactical Cloak
Hunter Mode
Area Scan (aka best OP goddamn amazing team-oriented skill ever)

(I know, it's very shocking that infiltrators/engineers are good against geth rite)

Retreat early and often. They come to you, no need to poke your head out for primes or troopers to snipe.

Modifié par Minic78, 09 juin 2012 - 05:32 .

[Mash-X-ToDieSlower]

I want to nerf ALL OF THE GETHS!!!!!