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Is Synthesis a Desirable Option?


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GreyLycanTrope

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Before we have any anti or pro synthesis people foaming at the mouth let me be perfectly clear. I despise all the ending options. I find that one forces me to backstab allies, one makes me actively engage in slavary, and in the last I impose "evolution" on the entire galaxy just to please some glowing bastard.

The more I reflect on these option the more I find one to be the lesser of the evils presented given the circumstances. I'm finding Control leaves me with the least amount of guilt, which got me thinking: if the circumstances were changed would I even consider all the options presented?

Say hypothetically that Destroy killed only Reapers. In that case I would blow them to hell without a second thought, since the other two options hold no appeal to me whatsoever, as I imagine many others would as well. But I find that even under these circumstances some people would undoubtably still choose Control since it presents a different appeal. If you want humanity to be a dominant force in the galaxy or just find have that much power under at your command irresistible than sure that is still a vaild option if that is your goal.

I could not find a reason for synthesis to be appealing on it's own. It seems a means to an end and nothing more.

This has led me to conclude that maybe the ending would have been better of if synthesis wasn't present leaving only control and Destory as options and the synthetics vs organics theme was dropped and replaced with a theme relating to humanity's role and place in the galaxy (a theme which would tie in nicely to ME1 I think) and maybe ask if power always corrupts which might tie in better with TIM's story arc. Both themes also work in terms of a paragon or renegade for shepards story I think.

I could always be wrong though, so the questions I pose to you dear readers are:
Do you find aspects of Synthesis to be appealing on it own? If so what are they?
If not would something along these lines ,ironically giving us even less options, have made a better ending?

Modifié par Greylycantrope, 09 juin 2012 - 05:53 .


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No.

Thinking about it makes my backside want to prolapse.

Ever want to know why I get so angry about it? People shouldn't be forced to "see" anything. They should be allowed to come to conclusions on their own.

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That's the second time I've seen Taboo allude to his arse collapsing. I'm here way too often.

And nah. It's like taking a 5 hour journey to get to a skiing resort before being told when you get there that what you were actually supposed to be doing is scuba diving. Yeah, that's great for another journey, but not the one I've been taking.

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Peace between Geths and Quarians is a hope. I didn't use any Synthesis option to render this peace possible. As consequence, a Synthesis solution could be avoided.

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It goes against all the great science fiction books that served as warnings.

INCLUDING the infamous A Clockwork Orange.

"When a man can no longer choose, he ceases to be a man."

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No, not sexy at all, but Ieldra2 begs to differ, just u watch...

Leaving reapers around under any circumstances is a no-go for me

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Joe Del Toro wrote...

That's the second time I've seen Taboo allude to his arse collapsing. I'm here way too often.

And nah. It's like taking a 5 hour journey to get to a skiing resort before being told when you get there that what you were actually supposed to be doing is scuba diving. Yeah, that's great for another journey, but not the one I've been taking.

This is a damn good analogy for it

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GreyLycanTrope

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So much for not foaming at the mouth Tabs.
Are you guys referring to just synthesis itself or the follow up question as well?

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I'm referring to Synthesis as a whole.

The whole things is EXACTLY what Huxley, Orwell and Burgess warned us about.

Oh ****. Footloose just came on the radio.

I'd better cut loose...FOOTLOOSE.

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No

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M Hedonist

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There are reasons why forcing unity on the world has always been a villain's motive.
Both in reality and in literature.

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GreyLycanTrope

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*sigh* I'm starting to think I should've just used the thread title and not bothered with the rest.

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No one shall escape my hatred of Synthesis!

NO ONE!

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 09 juin 2012 - 05:10 .


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Vigilant111

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Greylycantrope wrote...

*sigh* I'm starting to think I should've just used the thread title and not bothered with the rest.


U can read posts on control/synthesis support threads, should be easy for u to figure out if choosing them is worth it

As to the theme of the game, yes I agree that introducing this new organic/synthetic issue at the last minute is wrong

EDIT: don't make your post sound like u are calling control supporters control freaks, they hate that

Modifié par Vigilant111, 09 juin 2012 - 05:13 .


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Joe Del Toro

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Don't take it to heart, Grumpytelescope.

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-backs away slowly- calm down. I hate synthesis too. don't hurt me.

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This reminds me of the debate on whether or not European films with explicit sexual content. could be art.

What a CRAZY debate that was, especially the panel I headed.

NOTHING will ever be agreed upon.

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Joe Del Toro

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Taboo, mate, come on. You're derailing the thread.

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Vigilant111 wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

*sigh* I'm starting to think I should've just used the thread title and not bothered with the rest.


U can read posts on control/synthesis support threads, should be easy for u to figure out if choosing them is worth it

As to the theme of the game, yes I agree that introducing this new organic/synthetic issue at the last minute is wrong

EDIT: don't make your post sound like u are calling control supporters control freaks, they hate that


Never heard someone calls me a control freak. More like "traitor" or... "indoctrinated". A control freak is a welcomed change.



For OP:
There are the upgrades for both organics and synthetics. That's something. And synthetics and organics could live without anyone rule the other. That's also nice...

Modifié par HagarIshay, 09 juin 2012 - 05:22 .


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M Hedonist

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Greylycantrope wrote...

Do you find aspects of Synthesis to be appealing on it own? If so what are they?

You're just inviting people to post their dystopian visions of Synthesis.
Believe me, Synthesis brings the worst out in some people.
People will start saying things like "What has always attracted me to Synthesis was that it could give all these enhancements to everybody for free." (paraphrasing an actual post on the BSN)

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People keep saying it will show me "new ways of life". I was unsure that there was more than one.

Helping better mankind.

What more could I possible do?

All I have now is green skin and eyes.

Does Miranda have to put on make up now? Or does her new green complexion remove that need?

"You're looking positively green today Miss Lawson!"

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GreyLycanTrope

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Vigilant111 wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

*sigh* I'm starting to think I should've just used the thread title and not bothered with the rest.


U can read posts on control/synthesis support threads, should be easy for u to figure out if choosing them is worth it

As to the theme of the game, yes I agree that introducing this new organic/synthetic issue at the last minute is wrong

EDIT: don't make your post sound like u are calling control supporters control freaks, they hate that


I don't need support threads, I'm not asking which is more worth it. I've already reached my conclusions and have outlined them in the OP. Control is the lesser evil, all options are still crap though. Read the last questions in the OP that's the topic of discussion.

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HagarIshay wrote...

For OP:
There are the upgrades for both organics and synthetics. That's something. And synthetics and organics could live without anyone rule the other. That's also nice...


*GASP

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Taboo-XX wrote...

People keep saying it will show me "new ways of life". I was unsure that there was more than one.

Helping better mankind.

What more could I possible do?

All I have now is green skin and eyes.

Does Miranda have to put on make up now? Or does her new green complexion remove that need?

"You're looking positively green today Miss Lawson!"


So all you basically care about Miranda not keeping her blue eyes? Or not putting makeup?

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HagarIshay wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

People keep saying it will show me "new ways of life". I was unsure that there was more than one.

Helping better mankind.

What more could I possible do?

All I have now is green skin and eyes.

Does Miranda have to put on make up now? Or does her new green complexion remove that need?

"You're looking positively green today Miss Lawson!"


So all you basically care about Miranda not keeping her blue eyes? Or not putting makeup?


Strawman!