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Is Synthesis a Desirable Option?


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The path to true enlightenment is something only you alone can walk down.

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@Vigilant111:
I very much doubt most people would think it abhorrent if it happened in our world. Suppose it happened as an accident of nature, with no one really responsible. I think people would adapt rather quickly.

What's felt as abhorrent by people is not what it actually does, but the thought that a "mere" human could impose it. I can understand that attitude, but that doesn't make the results any worse. And actually, in the ME universe, if Shepard chooses Synthesis, nobody will know that there had been an alternative. People are changed, the Reapers are gone. I think most people will be relieved that the horrible death hanging over their heads has disappeared.

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Now you're just trying to guess the writer's intentions.

The Catalyst never tells us that the Reapers can truly stop being what they are. The way he presents the Control option ("Or do you think you can control us?") proves that. You could say that he purposefully avoids making direct, concrete statements. Even if you're not doubting his trustworthiness, you have to accept that he just doesn't tell us enough to make an informed decision.

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Ieldra2 wrote...

@Vigilant111:
I very much doubt most people would think it abhorrent if it happened in our world. Suppose it happened as an accident of nature, with no one really responsible. I think people would adapt rather quickly.

What's felt as abhorrent by people is not what it actually does, but the thought that a "mere" human could impose it. I can understand that attitude, but that doesn't make the results any worse. And actually, in the ME universe, if Shepard chooses Synthesis, nobody will know that there had been an alternative. People are changed, the Reapers are gone. I think most people will be relieved that the horrible death hanging over their heads has disappeared.


Ugh...see, by accident of which no one could be blamed for, but in the ending's case, it is a wilful act

I appreciate the sentiment that government keeps the public in the dark so that a nation continue to function, but it does not make it right, actually u are doing more than simply concealing the fact that u had 2 other choices, so u are effectively lying to the public, just because it is unaware of althernatives does not mean that it loses the right to know

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There are things we shouldn't touch. Human beings have a startingly large inability to deal with power. I no more trust a synthesized human than I do a man with the ability to launch a nuke.

Give any one species too much rope and they'll **** it up.

And yes, some people would find Synthesis abhorrent. Take the Native Americans where I live. Instead of taking a vaccine from the westerners they chose to jump off of cliffs to prevent smallpox.

If people don't want it, you have no right to "give" it to them.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 10 juin 2012 - 05:00 .


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In regards to reproduction, there isn't any....................except in a factory, of some vile sort.

Morally, intellectually, and literally, REPUGNANT.

There is NO argument, that will sway my attitude about this, disgusting shoehorned attempt at "art"!!

It makes me physically ill just contemplating the ramifications involved.

For once people just try to imagine this.........would you be comfortable calling your 'cactus' a relative?

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What makes you think that there will be no sexual reproduction anymore?

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Ieldra2 wrote...

What makes you think that there will be no sexual reproduction anymore?


Have you addressed how Synthesis affects the mainstays in reproduction? That is to say eggs and sperm?

It's something I've been wondering about myself. The Asari are of interest as well.

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Ieldra2 wrote...

@Vigilant111:
I very much doubt most people would think it abhorrent if it happened in our world.

Now you're just trolling...

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Taboo-XX wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...
What makes you think that there will be no sexual reproduction anymore?


Have you addressed how Synthesis affects the mainstays in reproduction? That is to say eggs and sperm?

It's something I've been wondering about myself. The Asari are of interest as well.

Depends on the details of course. Here's what I've envisioned: Organics with synthetic symbionts could reproduce just as they always did, with egg and sperm completely unchanged by the Synthesis and the symbionts replicating by themselves and passing from mother to child during pregnancy. Asari would still randomize their DNA as usual, with the symbionts doing the same as in other organics. 

@Bill Casey:
You forgot to quote the condition: "....if it happened accidentally".

Modifié par Ieldra2, 10 juin 2012 - 06:41 .


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Ieldra2 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...
What makes you think that there will be no sexual reproduction anymore?


Have you addressed how Synthesis affects the mainstays in reproduction? That is to say eggs and sperm?

It's something I've been wondering about myself. The Asari are of interest as well.

Depends on the details of course. Here's what I've envisioned: Organics with synthetic symbionts could reproduce just as they always did, with egg and sperm completely unchanged by the Synthesis and the symbionts replicating by themselves and passing from mother to child during pregnancy. Asari would still randomize their DNA as usual, with the symbionts doing the same as in other organics. 


The nanites would have to be put in in utero then. Unless all sex cells are filled with nanites. I'd imagine that a great deal of the change would occur that way.

Perhaps it could possibly decrease the pregnancy period as well? I'm not sure that's a good idea though...

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Ieldra2 wrote...

@Bill Casey:
You forgot to quote the condition: "....if it happened accidentally".


Which changes nothing...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 10 juin 2012 - 06:46 .


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This thread...why is it still alive?

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xsdob wrote...

This thread...why is it still alive?


It's my fault I'm sure.