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[Johnsen1972]

I want my Volus Vanguard & Adept!!

Modifié par Johnsen1972, 09 juin 2012 - 11:46 .

[ntrisley]

XxTaLoNxX wrote...

Atheosis wrote...

People really care about this? Personally I only care what powers they have. I couldn't care less what race the new classes are. Besides, human classes kind of fit the whole Earth theme yes?

Yeah, people do care and here are a few reasons why.

1) Roleplaying, to what I would call a majority of the casual rpging audience... humans are boring when there are aliens.

What?
Roleplaying aliens/abhumans/nonhumans is actually considered boring in most of the RPG circles I've ran in. The simple reason being that dependent upon how well fleshed out the information on the aliens/abhumans/nonhumans is--it can actually require you to stick too much within a certain "framework" for the individual you are RPing as they have very defined motivations/organizations/reactions, etc.

2) Each race has different mechanics, such as; Dodge, Melee/Heavy Melee, Movement speed... etc.

This is correct.

3) Each race has different Health/Shield amounts.

This is also correct.

4) Each race has different Racial Trees with different benefits for different weapons and powers.

This isn't really. Of all the races we've got, very few have "different benefits for different weapons and powers". Notably, the Geth are the only race which give a bonus to specific weapon damage.
The evolutions for shared powers are also the same, it is the combination of the different powers which make them unique.

[NOD-INFORMER37]

Whats wrong with more human characters?

I agree that Bioware should release a wide variety of characters/maps/powers etc, so we arent playing the same thing over and over again....But can you really say the Phoenix humans in the Rebellion pack were just like the ones we started off with? I certainly dont think so.

If in the next pack they have more humans I'm sure they'll differ on multiple levals from the ones we've already played as. 

Modifié par NOD-INFORMER37, 09 juin 2012 - 11:52 .

[Ciam]

I like this this theme based DLC on Earth. N7 rules!

[Landline]

I want to play a LOKI mech.

No powers, can't run, can't use cover, has ridiculous amounts of health and can crawl around when incapacitated.

[Siran]

Gamemako wrote...

Siran wrote...

Dunno why people always complain about free stuff.

I offer free feces sandwiches, get them while they last!

And that has any relevance, how? Man, some ppl act like spoiled brats.
You don't have to play it if you don't like it.

[Coooodayyee]

Oh noooo....more free characters that you don't have to use if you don't want to?!
What an atrocity!!

[Ciam]

Coooodayyee wrote...

Oh noooo....more free characters that you don't have to use if you don't want to?!
What an atrocity!!

I loled. Yes poor guys, we should all cry about more free DLC, bad Bioware!

[Zjarcal]

XxTaLoNxX wrote...

OR maybe we want BioWare to be creative and stop being so dang lazy when it comes to making new characters.

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XxTaLoNxX wrote...

Krogan Soldier 2.0

Oh yeah, that's really creative.

[spirosz]

XxTaLoNxX wrote...

spiros9110 wrote...

This thread is still alive?

Yeah, because apparently.... there's something to discuss. But this is what...? Your second failed attempt at trolling and adding nothing to the discussion?

Bravo.

You can argue about them being "human" or "alien", but the classes itself can still be great, regardless of who they are, human or alien.  I would love a Drell Infiltrator ... but if they came out with a human one instead, with the same skill setup (which is the important part), you would still get mad because it's human, which I don't see what the fuss is.  

I'd rather they make some more female classes for the female gamers out there, but I'm grateful we're getting this much content at all (and it's all be FREE, so far).  

Oh, and one thing - it's a leak.  

Remember the Prothean MP leak, how's that coming along in your game?  (oops,haha)

Modifié par spiros9110, 10 juin 2012 - 12:18 .

[Ciam]

spiros9110 wrote...

XxTaLoNxX wrote...

spiros9110 wrote...

This thread is still alive?

Yeah, because apparently.... there's something to discuss. But this is what...? Your second failed attempt at trolling and adding nothing to the discussion?

Bravo.

You can argue about them being "human" or "alien", but the classes itself can still be great, regardless of who they are, human or alien.  I would love a Drell Infiltrator ... but if they came out with a human one instead, with the same skill setup (which is the important part), you would still get mad because it's human, which I don't see what the fuss is.  

I'd rather they make some more female classes for the female gamers out there, but I'm grateful we're getting this much content at all (and it's all be FREE, so far).  

Oh, and one thing - it's a leak.  

Remember the Prothean MP leak, how's that coming along in your game? 

I don't want to troll you but we never got a Prothean leak, we got a Pheonix leak and we have Pheonix now.

[spirosz]

Ciam wrote...

I don't want to troll you but we never got a Prothean leak, we got a Pheonix leak and we have Pheonix now.

Wasn't there rumours of Protheans?  If not, my mistake.  

[Ciam]

The original leak actually never talked about Protheans.
The community thought it was maybe Protheans.
Totally different I think.

Modifié par Ciam, 10 juin 2012 - 12:18 .

[spirosz]

Ciam wrote...

The original leak actually never talked about Protheans.
The community thought it was maybe Protheans.
Totally different I think

Ah, I misinterpreted the leak then, haha.  

[Ciam]

Well, to get back on the discuss I think, as you said, that is not so important for the new classes to be human or alien. Skills and class build posibilities are a lot more important I think. And, it's an Earth based DLC, new chars are human, seems more than legit to me.

[spirosz]

Ciam wrote...

Well, to get back on the discuss I think, as you said, that is not so important for the new classes to be human or alien. Skills and class build posibilities are a lot more important I think. And, it's an Earth based DLC, new chars are human, seems more than legit to me.

Exactly, that's why it bugs me when people just focus on the class being "human or alien".  The class itself, is the important aspect.  

Modifié par spiros9110, 10 juin 2012 - 12:27 .

[CmdrPwn]

Melancholic wrote...

Asari sentinel. Make it happen. To be blue yet not squishy would be amazing.

Yeah they could add some Asari from the eclipse mercs like these.  More sexy young Asari!!  **** yeah.

Modifié par Cdr. Pwn, 10 juin 2012 - 12:35 .

[Reapinger]

I WANT PROTHEANS

[ntrisley]

XxTaLoNxX wrote...

ntrisley wrote...

XxTaLoNxX wrote...

Atheosis wrote...

People really care about this? Personally I only care what powers they have. I couldn't care less what race the new classes are. Besides, human classes kind of fit the whole Earth theme yes?

Yeah, people do care and here are a few reasons why.

1) Roleplaying, to what I would call a majority of the casual rpging audience... humans are boring when there are aliens.

What?
Roleplaying aliens/abhumans/nonhumans is actually considered boring in most of the RPG circles I've ran in. The simple reason being that dependent upon how well fleshed out the information on the aliens/abhumans/nonhumans is--it can actually require you to stick too much within a certain "framework" for the individual you are RPing as they have very defined motivations/organizations/reactions, etc.

2) Each race has different mechanics, such as; Dodge, Melee/Heavy Melee, Movement speed... etc.

This is correct.

3) Each race has different Health/Shield amounts.

This is also correct.

4) Each race has different Racial Trees with different benefits for different weapons and powers.

This isn't really. Of all the races we've got, very few have "different benefits for different weapons and powers". Notably, the Geth are the only race which give a bonus to specific weapon damage.
The evolutions for shared powers are also the same, it is the combination of the different powers which make them unique.

1) I'm calling BS on your circle of RPG friends that think roleplaying as aliens/subhumans are boring. Most DnD groups have Dwarves and Elves. Fact.

And Dwarf/Elf societies are closer to humans than anything else.

To quote you here:
"Fact."
Roleplaying Dwarfs/Elves is easy. Roleplaying Ogres, Orcs, Driders, Illithids, Dragons, or anything which goes too far beyond the pale of the "iconic" races which are played(read: abhumans) becomes more and more easy because of them being described in very definitive terms.

2) YES. Each racial tree is different. Asari Justicar gets power duration bonuses, Batarians get Spare Ammo, Turians get Stability. There are other minor differences. So you are wrong when you say Geth are the only notable ones.

Sorry but your wrong in more ways that you are right in that post.

I see that reading isn't your forte.

You took one part of my statement, and quite clearly decided to go with something else entirely.

Geth are the only race which have bonuses to specific weapons. Tell me I'm wrong. Really, tell me I'm wrong on that. Turians having stability and Batarians having spare ammo means nothing; they apply that to all weapons they equip. The only "unique" thing about them is that certain races have different signature weapons; such as Turians getting weight reduction for Assault Rifles...which is arguably silly, considering other races have weight reduction on ALL weapons.

The other part of my statement which you replied to is that "The evolutions for shared powers are the same, it is the combination of the different powers which make them unique".
You seem to have missed that concept, instead deciding that it was aimed at the racial trees. It wasn't.
A Shockwave on a Batarian Sentinel is going to be the exact same as a Human Vanguard or Adept. What makes it unique is that it can be used in conjunction with their net ability.

[Cyonan]

ntrisley wrote...
The other part of my statement which you replied to is that "The evolutions for shared powers are the same, it is the combination of the different powers which make them unique".
You seem to have missed that concept, instead deciding that it was aimed at the racial trees. It wasn't.
A Shockwave on a Batarian Sentinel is going to be the exact same as a Human Vanguard or Adept. What makes it unique is that it can be used in conjunction with their net ability.

This is technically false, as the Biotic Charge for the Krogan Vanguard is not the same as the Biotic Charge for the other species. He gets a longer base cooldown, and melee synergy at rank 5 instead of power synergy.

Bioware obviously has no issues tweaking abilities to reflect the species they're on a bit.

Modifié par Cyonan, 10 juin 2012 - 12:55 .

[ntrisley]

I like how you were whining earlier in this very thread about being called "kid", and now you're trying to talk down to me.

It's precious.

[spirosz]

ntrisley wrote...

I like how you were whining earlier in this very thread about being called "kid", and now you're trying to talk down to me.

It's precious.

Just ignore him.