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#51
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you really expect Bioware to go out of their way to "surprise" us? a bit delusional ... You should know EA better than that... they want to give the least amount of product possible

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For all we know EC could be a hat in the bag. There is no info at all about it.

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I think they've been planning something big the entire time, something revelatory. And I think it's EC-related.

What that means, I really haven't the foggiest at this point.

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Slightly unrelated, but if anything has been learned from ME2 its that you can roughly judge how many substantial story significant DLCs there will be by the amount of the empty rooms on the normandy.

I can only think of thanes room and jacks 'room'.

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RavenEyry wrote...

filetemo wrote...

the EC is nothing but cutscenes. No gameplay. Game play takes playtesting and bug-finding. No time for that.IT requires new gameplay. No gameplay = no IT.

For the ten millionth time: it is not stated anywhere whatsoever that EC is nothing but cutscenes. Can everyone please stop spreading misinformation?

Thank you I have said that countless times I honestly think they will because they haven't said no yet

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The thing about doing a big community reveal that would impress and create the tension of wanting it now, right the **** now, and NOW, would require Bioware to have created an appropriate amount of tension or suspense in the game.

What we got was "speculations".

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What if Bioware was preparing something big?

I want to believe...

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Pirates10i

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garrusfan1 wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

filetemo wrote...

the EC is nothing but cutscenes. No gameplay. Game play takes playtesting and bug-finding. No time for that.IT requires new gameplay. No gameplay = no IT.

For the ten millionth time: it is not stated anywhere whatsoever that EC is nothing but cutscenes. Can everyone please stop spreading misinformation?

Thank you I have said that countless times I honestly think they will because they haven't said no yet


kotaku.com/5917131/strikingly-accurate-tipster-resurfaces-with-info-on-mass-effect-3s-multiplayer-dlc-extension
EC only script

Modifié par Pirates10i, 10 juin 2012 - 06:13 .


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That was a PR statement. New scenes might mean anything. The word is "scene".

It was also written in pre-production.

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Pirates10i wrote...
kotaku.com/5917131/strikingly-accurate-tipster-resurfaces-with-info-on-mass-effect-3s-multiplayer-dlc-extension
EC only script

Where does it say that?

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Alex_Dur4and wrote...

What if, with all due respect and honnest desire to surprise the fan base, Bioware intended the EC to be more than it is advertised to be?


Sadly I doubt it, Bioware/EA aren't going to put a lot of money into something they're giving away for free; in fact I'm convinced the only reason the EC won't be released until the summer is because they want to give players time to cool down and move on so that when/if the EC disappoints nobody cares anymore.

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RavenEyry wrote...

Pirates10i wrote...
kotaku.com/5917131/strikingly-accurate-tipster-resurfaces-with-info-on-mass-effect-3s-multiplayer-dlc-extension
EC only script

Where does it say that?


EA will not put a lot of money out for something they are not sorry for..

An expanded ending for Mass Effect 3. Additional scenes and an extended epilogue reveal the impact of Shepard's choices on the future of the galaxy

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Pirates10i wrote...

you really expect Bioware to go out of their way to "surprise" us? a bit delusional ... You should know EA better than that... they want to give the least amount of product possible


If that were true, the EC would already have been released weeks ago.

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Persephone wrote...

Pirates10i wrote...

you really expect Bioware to go out of their way to "surprise" us? a bit delusional ... You should know EA better than that... they want to give the least amount of product possible


If that were true, the EC would already have been released weeks ago.


It takes time to get actors to come in for voice work...and Programmers to make a couple scenes.... I would gladly like to be wrong but im just being realistic here....

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Pirates10i wrote...

An expanded ending for Mass Effect 3. Additional scenes and an extended epilogue reveal the impact of Shepard's choices on the future of the galaxy

Which is what we've already been told. It does not mention gameplay either way.

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Lookout1390 wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Lookout1390 wrote...

Alex_Dur4and wrote...

PLEASE!! This thread is not about IT or denial about the ending... It's about Bioware going above and beyond expectation!


LOL

Then what do you call the abomination that was ME3?

I don't think I have ever seen so many plotholes in one game.


Haven't played all that many games, I suppose. Abomination? Have you ever played an actually bad game, seriously?

Bias and hyperbole, a deadly mix.

Now ON TOPIC:

Maybe they are. Maybe they aren't. We'll find out. The LONG DEV cycle (Longer than LOTSB!) gives me hope.

We'll see soon enough.


Gaping plotholes, loose-ends, dumbed down content isn't at all biased.

Sorry that you didn't realize these things.

Doesn't take a college level literature analyst to see this sort of stuff.


No more "plot holes" than in the previous games. And now you're upset? 

Dumbed down? ME2 wins the prize.

Loose ends aren't necessarily a bad thing either.

So yes, having played several actually BAD games, ME3 is nowhere NEAR that level.

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Pirates10i wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Pirates10i wrote...

you really expect Bioware to go out of their way to "surprise" us? a bit delusional ... You should know EA better than that... they want to give the least amount of product possible


If that were true, the EC would already have been released weeks ago.


It takes time to get actors to come in for voice work...and Programmers to make a couple scenes.... I would gladly like to be wrong but im just being realistic here....


No. They could have used what's already been recorded. Add deleted stuff to round it up. And programming a "few" cutscenes doesn't take months.

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Simple fact is i beleive they were either rushed by EA or Casey was just getting too big for his boots.

If they allow the team to take their time to bring amazing free DLC which is delivered perfectly then i would probably re play the game. But if they stick to their guns with "nothing is changing it is a clarification non playable DLC" then i probably won't buy another bioware product ever again without seeing fan reviews first and i will put 0 money into any EA product.

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so much negativity. but how can I blame people I got stabbed in the back by the time this game was over. I really hope bioware is preparing something awesome

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Either way, I'm pretty convinced the EC is going to disappoint. They did say all it was gonna do was 'clarify' the ending and 'provide closure'. Which means it's still going to be the ****ty ending that I hated.

With regards to the discussion about ME3 being an 'abomination' - compared to the other two, for me, it sucked. Out of the three, I disliked ME3 the most, and not just for the ending. But that's an off-topic discussion :v

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I didn't think ME2 was dumbed down, it had a different focus and I liked it.

Take the reason for the crew being taken into account.

WHY did Shepard's crew leave in one shuttle?

Plot hole, but you forget it because the game was badass.

What you see aren't plot holes, they are a lack of information.

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Persephone wrote...

Lookout1390 wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Lookout1390 wrote...

Alex_Dur4and wrote...

PLEASE!! This thread is not about IT or denial about the ending... It's about Bioware going above and beyond expectation!


LOL

Then what do you call the abomination that was ME3?

I don't think I have ever seen so many plotholes in one game.


Haven't played all that many games, I suppose. Abomination? Have you ever played an actually bad game, seriously?

Bias and hyperbole, a deadly mix.

Now ON TOPIC:

Maybe they are. Maybe they aren't. We'll find out. The LONG DEV cycle (Longer than LOTSB!) gives me hope.

We'll see soon enough.


Gaping plotholes, loose-ends, dumbed down content isn't at all biased.

Sorry that you didn't realize these things.

Doesn't take a college level literature analyst to see this sort of stuff.


No more "plot holes" than in the previous games. And now you're upset? 

Dumbed down? ME2 wins the prize.

Loose ends aren't necessarily a bad thing either.

So yes, having played several actually BAD games, ME3 is nowhere NEAR that level.


I don't recall ME1 having major gaping plotholes, infact it was the only complete Introduction to resolution in the trilogy.

I had my problems with ME2, story-wise ME2 was just a stand-alone game.

ME3 had a ridiculous amount of plot-holes in it, and didn't even try to resolve them, or make sense of them, stop kidding yourself.

I don't care how many 'bad' games you have played, compared to it's predecessors, ME3 was awful.

And no, actually ME2 wasn't dumbed down compared to ME3. ME2 still kept the dialogue wheel, and wasn't 90% auto dialogue.

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Im just not sure how people can be expecting something special when it came from Biowares mouth that they are not changing anything and its just for clarification. I mean Bioware has never been known for surprises

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Persephone wrote...

Pirates10i wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Pirates10i wrote...

you really expect Bioware to go out of their way to "surprise" us? a bit delusional ... You should know EA better than that... they want to give the least amount of product possible


If that were true, the EC would already have been released weeks ago.


It takes time to get actors to come in for voice work...and Programmers to make a couple scenes.... I would gladly like to be wrong but im just being realistic here....


No. They could have used what's already been recorded. Add deleted stuff to round it up. And programming a "few" cutscenes doesn't take months.


oh cool, they are adding on a few more cutscenes to the already crappy ones we have.

Sounds like good ol' EA to me.

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Lookout1390 wrote...
And no, actually ME2 wasn't dumbed down compared to ME3. ME2 still kept the dialogue wheel, and wasn't 90% auto dialogue.


This, so much.