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[Reptilian Rob]

Billyg3453 wrote...

Alex_Dur4and wrote...
What if Bioware was preparing something big? Something like the IT.

Stop.

Go on...

[Taboo]

Reptilian Rob wrote...

Billyg3453 wrote...

Alex_Dur4and wrote...
What if Bioware was preparing something big? Something like the IT.

Stop.

Go on...

But seriously, if Bioware gives people the LI reunion they'll calm down.

Don't lie to me.

[FatalX7.0]

They did a good job surprising me when everything they said would be in the game wasn't in the game.

Blown away.

[Reptilian Rob]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Yes, this has a longer development cycle than LotSB and that cost millions of dollars.

It isn't cheap to render things, or hire voice actors OR pay employees for work that you won't see a return investment on.

I think you're expecting too much out of a company that spent $250 million on an MMO that failed.

Just sayin'. 

[Taboo]

Reptilian Rob wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Yes, this has a longer development cycle than LotSB and that cost millions of dollars.

It isn't cheap to render things, or hire voice actors OR pay employees for work that you won't see a return investment on.

I think you're expecting too much out of a company that spent $250 million on an MMO that failed.

Just sayin'. 

Hollywood would like to have a word with you.

RING RING

****** INVESTORS HERE.

[Reptilian Rob]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

Billyg3453 wrote...

Alex_Dur4and wrote...
What if Bioware was preparing something big? Something like the IT.

Stop.

Go on...

But seriously, if Bioware gives people the LI reunion they'll calm down.

Don't lie to me.

That's what we call a **** cop-out right there.

"Yes, give them the LI thing! But keep it on the downlow that the galaxy is still ****ed up, ok? And the Normandy is still crashed on forest island planet, ok? Great, solid DLC we have here."

[ArchDuck]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

Billyg3453 wrote...

Alex_Dur4and wrote...
What if Bioware was preparing something big? Something like the IT.

Stop.

Go on...

But seriously, if Bioware gives people the LI reunion they'll calm down.

Don't lie to me.

LI reunion doesn't matter to me. The other plot holes, removal of player agency, lack of taking into account past decisions, etc. matter a hell of a lot more.

[Reptilian Rob]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Yes, this has a longer development cycle than LotSB and that cost millions of dollars.

It isn't cheap to render things, or hire voice actors OR pay employees for work that you won't see a return investment on.

I think you're expecting too much out of a company that spent $250 million on an MMO that failed.

Just sayin'. 

Hollywood would like to have a word with you.

RING RING

****** INVESTORS HERE.

This industry is not like Hollywood, and it never will be. EVER. 

They do not function in the same way most of the time. 

[ArchDuck]

FatalX7.0 wrote...

They did a good job surprising me when everything they said would be in the game wasn't in the game.

Blown away.

Oh, I remember that part too. A totally unexpected surprise move, didn't see it coming.

[lordofdogtown19]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

Billyg3453 wrote...

Alex_Dur4and wrote...
What if Bioware was preparing something big? Something like the IT.

Stop.

Go on...

But seriously, if Bioware gives people the LI reunion they'll calm down.

Don't lie to me.

Not gonna lie, I'd calm down. It wouldn't make the ending good per se, but it would be much more bearable.

[Reptilian Rob]

ArchDuck wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

They did a good job surprising me when everything they said would be in the game wasn't in the game.

Blown away.

Oh, I remember that part too. A totally unexpected surprise move, didn't see it coming.

I don't think a gaming company has ever done that, actually. At least not with a AAA title. 

Bravo Bioware!

[Taboo]

No, executives are the same way.

Trust me when I say that they have no ****ing clue what people want to see in films either. That's why they do the same **** EVERY year.

Executives care about the return investment, and Mass Effect has made well over two hundred million dollars.

[Reptilian Rob]

Taboo-XX wrote...

No, executives are the same way.

Trust me when I say that they have no ****ing clue what people want to see in films either. That's why they do the same **** EVERY year.

Executives care about the return investment, and Mass Effect has made well over two hundred million dollars.

Ok, so a couple of days ago when you said the excecs didn't have any say over the game...Are you backtracking on that? Just trying to sort this out. 

Because Hudson and Walters are FAR from exects. Both are truly ****ing nerdy and love Sci Fi, which is why the EA meddling is a pretty inviting theory at this point. They have done this in the past, ruined a franchise and studio so they can liquidate and cash in on the assets. 

[Oldbones2]

Alex_Dur4and wrote...

What if, with all due respect and honnest desire to surprise the fan base, Bioware intended the EC to be more than it is advertised to be?

No one would ever hold them responsible to have shamlessly added more than anticipated in the EC... What if Bioware was preparing something big? Something like the IT or something completely different. Something we did not even think of that would blow our minds and to launch this title to unexpected greatness?

Please! Refrain yourself from insulting or accusing Bioware... Thank you!

P.S. This thread is not about IT and IT will not be discussed here!!!

I think the ship has sailed on miraculous last minute saves from our favorite developer OP.  Sailed and sank and is lost for all time.


But if you want to believe that, go ahead.  Just keep yourself from putting to much faith in BW, you'll get hurt again.

[Taboo]

Reptilian Rob wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

No, executives are the same way.

Trust me when I say that they have no ****ing clue what people want to see in films either. That's why they do the same **** EVERY year.

Executives care about the return investment, and Mass Effect has made well over two hundred million dollars.

Ok, so a couple of days ago when you said the excecs didn't have any say over the game...Are you backtracking on that? Just trying to sort this out. 

Because Hudson and Walters are FAR from exects. Both are truly ****ing nerdy and love Sci Fi, which is why the EA meddling is a pretty inviting theory at this point. They have done this in the past, ruined a franchise and studio so they can liquidate and cash in on the assets. 

No, I thought you were talking about EA interference. Stop consfusing ME Robert.

EA did not write the script. You and I both know that a bad ending in writing can make all the other flaws visible. Had Walters and Hudson not fumbled the ball at the end there wouldn't be as much of an issue.

EA would not have let it out the door had they known they would lose money. I know you understand that.

Walters wrote some crap and very few people can turn that into gold.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 11 juin 2012 - 03:19 .

[Aramiss Ducati]

Jerking your customers around hardly seems like a good business practice.

[Reptilian Rob]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

No, executives are the same way.

Trust me when I say that they have no ****ing clue what people want to see in films either. That's why they do the same **** EVERY year.

Executives care about the return investment, and Mass Effect has made well over two hundred million dollars.

Ok, so a couple of days ago when you said the excecs didn't have any say over the game...Are you backtracking on that? Just trying to sort this out. 

Because Hudson and Walters are FAR from exects. Both are truly ****ing nerdy and love Sci Fi, which is why the EA meddling is a pretty inviting theory at this point. They have done this in the past, ruined a franchise and studio so they can liquidate and cash in on the assets. 

No, I thought you were talking about EA interference. Stop consfusing ME Robert.

EA did not write the script. You and I both know that a bad ending in writing can make all the other flaws visible. Had Walters and Hudson not fumbled the ball at the end there wouldn't be as much of an issue.

EA would not have let it out the door had they known they would lose money. I know you understand that.

Walters wrote some crap and very few people can turn that into gold.

I think you're going to be extemely dissapointed when the EC turns out to be them polishing a huge turd. 

And I agree EA wouldn't have let it out the door had they known...But they didn't because they knew they could get away with it. I would say this is 60% Hudson and 40% EA doing what they do best, ****ing over a franchise. 

The EC is going to be nothing more than additional scenes and some crap about why those **** choices did what they did. Then when we all ask why it took them five months to produce it they will say "But that MP content! You liked that, right?"

I bet money this will happen. 

[Taboo]

I see it as a marriage. I'm going to overlook faults because that's what you do.

They have alluded to more than just that, especially when Mr. Gamble came on the forums personally and said that they could rework dialogue with the Star Child. Same ****, new form.

As I've stated before, I despise Synthesis but will retain the validity of Destroy. I don't have much of a choice.

I've also prepared a head canon, and should the EC not be satisfactory.

Tough ****** if Bioware wants to take that away, all interpretations are valid.

[Reptilian Rob]

Taboo-XX wrote...

I see it as a marriage. I'm going to overlook faults because that's what you do.

They have alluded to more than just that, especially when Mr. Gamble came on the forums personally and said that they could rework dialogue with the Star Child. Same ****, new form.

As I've stated before, I despise Synthesis but will retain the validity of Destroy. I don't have much of a choice.

I've also prepared a head canon, and should the EC not be satisfactory.

Tough ****** if Bioware wants to take that away, all interpretations are valid.

Same here, my head canon is pretty much either destroy or control based. 

Destroy is IT and my control playthrough will be Shep dies but everything else is left in place. 

Other than that, we'll ust have to wait. I'm going to CC so I hope something will be revealed there. 

[Taboo]

Reptilian Rob wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

I see it as a marriage. I'm going to overlook faults because that's what you do.

They have alluded to more than just that, especially when Mr. Gamble came on the forums personally and said that they could rework dialogue with the Star Child. Same ****, new form.

As I've stated before, I despise Synthesis but will retain the validity of Destroy. I don't have much of a choice.

I've also prepared a head canon, and should the EC not be satisfactory.

Tough ****** if Bioware wants to take that away, all interpretations are valid.

Same here, my head canon is pretty much either destroy or control based. 

Destroy is IT and my control playthrough will be Shep dies but everything else is left in place. 

Other than that, we'll ust have to wait. I'm going to CC so I hope something will be revealed there. 

I can only make assessments based upon experience. Bioware knows they ****ed up, the EC is an admission of that. Bioware wouldn't do it if they didn't care.

Hudson's relationship has been severly damaged because of this. I don't see him promoting much of anything without a **** load of scorn. 

Also, I've never been to Comic Con and am extremely jealous.

[Reptilian Rob]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

I see it as a marriage. I'm going to overlook faults because that's what you do.

They have alluded to more than just that, especially when Mr. Gamble came on the forums personally and said that they could rework dialogue with the Star Child. Same ****, new form.

As I've stated before, I despise Synthesis but will retain the validity of Destroy. I don't have much of a choice.

I've also prepared a head canon, and should the EC not be satisfactory.

Tough ****** if Bioware wants to take that away, all interpretations are valid.

Same here, my head canon is pretty much either destroy or control based. 

Destroy is IT and my control playthrough will be Shep dies but everything else is left in place. 

Other than that, we'll ust have to wait. I'm going to CC so I hope something will be revealed there. 

I can only make assessments based upon experience. Bioware knows they ****ed up, the EC is an admission of that. Bioware wouldn't do it if they didn't care.

Hudson's relationship has been severly damaged because of this. I don't see him promoting much of anything without a **** load of scorn. 

Also, I've never been to Comic Con and am extremely jealous.

I live in San Diego and UCSD lit students get in free with their student pass. Being that UCSD funds some of CC every year with their arts funding.

[Taboo]

I get into film festivals because I have contacts.

I'm just fine with that.

[lordofdogtown19]

Taboo-XX wrote...

I see it as a marriage. I'm going to overlook faults because that's what you do.

They have alluded to more than just that, especially when Mr. Gamble came on the forums personally and said that they could rework dialogue with the Star Child. Same ****, new form.

As I've stated before, I despise Synthesis but will retain the validity of Destroy. I don't have much of a choice.

I've also prepared a head canon, and should the EC not be satisfactory.

Tough ****** if Bioware wants to take that away, all interpretations are valid.

You know Taboo, idk if your into fanfiction but there is a fantastic Shep/Miri alternate ending fic I could send your way

[Taboo]

lordofdogtown19 wrote...

You know Taboo, idk if your into fanfiction but there is a fantastic Shep/Miri alternate ending fic I could send your way

My headcanon is the only comfort I have right now. I like it because it suits me best.

Art should never cause pain but this does and it hurts.

Thanks though.