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I'm not sure what you mean? Resistance to what? Depends on the character. Rogues can get away with a lot less. I can put back getting Spellward until I have a lot of other things I want. With Warriors, it's a priority. I don't care about elemental resistances too much, you find enough salves and items along the way to use them when you need them. Physical resistance is only somewhat useful, you'll resist some stuns and knockdowns if you're at the cap. If you have a high dex character, most attacks that you have a chance of resisting will miss you anyway, so it's only useful against shield pummel. I would rune for it only on a str based DW Warrior.

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Looks like I can record video without slowing the game down on my new processor. Here's a solo Ser Cauth with DW Warrior, no potions and I didn't leave the room, but I did LoS the archers.


Modifié par Timortis, 18 février 2010 - 04:13 .


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I think you forgot the link?

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Oops, I edited it. The video quality looks really bad on Youtube though, I used Wegame to capture and I used web mode. Maybe I'll try HD next time.

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Same fight with DW Rogue, no potions.





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The quality is fine--for the first thirty minutes or so after you post a video, the quality is always really low.



Well played, sir. I've always wondered if it was possible to LOS the archers in that cubby... it's not really necessary with a full group, but that's good to know for future reference.

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Killed Flemeth with my no-potion Rogue using traps as planned. Here's how it worked out.

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How many traps did you set, what kind of traps, and how much damage did they do to Flemeth?

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Trap damage isn't displayed on screen and there's no combat log. I used different traps, not all the same, just made whatever I could with what ingredients I had been collecting throughout the game. I bought some corrupter agents and that was it. It was probably something like 30-40 traps. After they went off she had a sliver of life left, so I went in and hit her a couple of times and she died.

Modifié par Timortis, 19 février 2010 - 10:04 .


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Hello,



Timortis, I've been following your thread from the very start and was inspired to do a few nightmare solo runs of my own. Currently, I've completed two solos (Sword and Shield warrior and a Two-Handed warrior) with one more on the way (Dual Wield warrior).



I was curious about your current character, the rogue. If I'm correct, that was your heavy armor cunning rogue - is that right? I watches that video you posted, and you barely got hit, so I'm wondering exactly how your stat point distribution went.



I assume that you had some thirty-four points in strength and a good ammount in dexterity, to gain that kind of defense, though, that wouldn't leave a lot for cunning.



Also, if this was the cunning rogue, why did you decide to go with an Assassin instead of a Bard? Do you really backstab enough to make Exploit Weakness more useful than the Song of Courage?

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No, that wasn't my Cunning Rogue. This one is a dex Rogue who wears heavy armor. The Cunning Rogue, regardless of armor, could never solo Ser Cauthrien or a bunch of other bosses without potions. You could kill her with traps, but that's about it. This is the Rogue I started the no-potion run with and he's at the Landsmeet right now.

Modifié par Timortis, 20 février 2010 - 07:35 .


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I see. Thanks for your reply.



You got the armor to survive those unavoidable attacks, such as an Grab and Overwhelm, right?



What level of the traps skill do you take? Do you actually travel around and buy ingredients in large quantities to make mass traps? I assume that you primarily use them in boss fights since almost every other fight can be done without them. The only thing that I believe could remotely cause a problem are spell casters, though they could probably be easily avoided if you target them first after coming out of Stealth.

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Yes, the armor was for the unavoidable attacks, though I do think it's entirely possible to solo without potions on a pure dex Rogue without it, but you'd have to reload if you get grabbed for sure.



I always take traps to level 4, even on my Warriors. I just like having combat abilities. I think I actually used traps only on 3 boss fights, Uldred, Flemeth and Witherfang. The only trap ingredients I buy, is I buy all the metal shards in all the stores I visit during the game, and I bought corrupter agents like I said for Flemeth. Otherwise I just use what I find.

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But the traps you use are rarely level four, since they have a quite steep ingredient cost.



When you started your rogue, did you pump strength and dexterity at a 1:2 and 2:1 scale, switching off each level? This was just a guess, since, if you did that, by level thirteen, with certain items you'd be able to use massive armor, if I counted correctly that is.



Why did you decide to use traps on Flemeth and not the High Dragon?

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Like I said, I just take it because I like it, I don't make a cost/benefit analysis.:D

I honestly don't remember exactly how I increased my stats. My goal wasn't to wear massive armor at level 13 though, and I couldn't at that point.

We discussed it in this thread. There's a way you can kill the High Dragon without using traps and still not take damage, it wouldn't work against Flemeth because she doesn't fly around like that. In fact, I learned how to kill the High Dragon like that from other posters in this thread, so I give them my thanks. I was originally planning to use traps for that fight too, they saved me gold. :D

Modifié par Timortis, 20 février 2010 - 09:46 .


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Just noticed this thread. Never though to do this my self, great idea. I was doing a no potion run but that was with a full team.



Question for Timortis, do you usually play human? If so why? Wouldn't the Dwarf be better for magic resist?



Anyways I just started my first solo NM run with dwarf rogue.

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Yeah, spell resistance is nice, but I like playing humans. It's not about what's the most optimal, but what I enjoy.

Anyway, I posted this in another thread, but here it is again, Dex Rogue vs Hurlock General, this is why I love dex builds.

http://www.wegame.com/watch/dex-rogue/

Modifié par Timortis, 21 février 2010 - 12:00 .


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Oh right, I remember that. I guess I just forgot. xD



I soloed the High Dragon with all of those characters just up front, without much hiding, as that way is very time consuming, though it lets you fight the dragon at almost any level.

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ZelaineGW wrote...

Anyways I just started my first solo NM run with dwarf rogue.


Made it through the Korcari Wilds with one health potion.  In the Tower of Ishal now, having a great time.  Thanks all.

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Modifié par ZelaineGW, 21 février 2010 - 05:42 .


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I was just curious about your spell selection as a mage. From the screenshot you posted in the Arl of Denerim's Estate, I see that you maxed the Mana Clash, and Death Fog lines. I also noticed that you heavily invested in the Animate Dead line, though didn't take the final spell, which is understandable since having the skeleton does not provide much aid.

I was surprised to see you take the first two spells in the Chain Lightning line, I would have assumed that you would have gotten Blizzard first, as I believe that you were going for Tempest so that you could pull off the Storm of the Century combination.

Is my analysis correct? If you've ever tried it, how did you like the Death Hex and Death Fog combination? What further spells would you take? Although Mana Clash instantly kills mages, do you really think it's worth it as you can also kill them the old fashioned way while saving a talent point. I saw that you went halfway into the Crushing Prison line, how come you didn't take Crushing Prison? Are you trying to avoid the "enchant weapon" talents as they're useless for you? Why did you decide not to take Misdirection Hex or Death Hex since you had half the line maxed out?

What was your strategy against Ser Cauthrien? Did you Paralyze her through Paralysis Explosion, cast some Damage-Over-Time spells and kite her?

Using Blood Magic actively, would you use sustainables such as Rock Armor or Shimmering Shield (if you took Arcane Warrior instead of Spirit Healer) on yourself or no? Now that Blood Control has been fixed (deals damage if the target resists), would you get it?

Thanks in advance for the answers. :P

Modifié par Crenshinibon, 22 février 2010 - 11:59 .


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Crenshinibon wrote...

I was just curious about your spell selection as a mage. From the screenshot you posted in the Arl of Denerim's Estate, I see that you maxed the Mana Clash, and Death Fog lines. I also noticed that you heavily invested in the Animate Dead line, though didn't take the final spell, which is understandable since having the skeleton does not provide much aid.

I was surprised to see you take the first two spells in the Chain Lightning line, I would have assumed that you would have gotten Blizzard first, as I believe that you were going for Tempest so that you could pull off the Storm of the Century combination.

Is my analysis correct? If you've ever tried it, how did you like the Death Hex and Death Fog combination? What further spells would you take? Although Mana Clash instantly kills mages, do you really think it's worth it as you can also kill them the old fashioned way while saving a talent point. I saw that you went halfway into the Crushing Prison line, how come you didn't take Crushing Prison? Are you trying to avoid the "enchant weapon" talents as they're useless for you? Why did you decide not to take Misdirection Hex or Death Hex since you had half the line maxed out?

What was your strategy against Ser Cauthrien? Did you Paralyze her through Paralysis Explosion, cast some Damage-Over-Time spells and kite her?

Using Blood Magic actively, would you use sustainables such as Rock Armor or Shimmering Shield (if you took Arcane Warrior instead of Spirit Healer) on yourself or no? Now that Blood Control has been fixed (deals damage if the target resists), would you get it?

Thanks in advance for the answers. :P


Are you looking to solo a mage? Thi should answer many of your questions:
http://social.biowar...66/index/517426

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Thanks for the link. I've already read through that thread a while back, I was just looking for Timorits's perspective on the matter as well as his answers on some of the aforementioned questions.



In case Timortis was unfamiliar with the build that the poster of that thread used, here's a link to the talent list:



http://img258.images.../5126/build.png

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OK, I didn't read that thread but I'll answer your questions...

I didn't take Animate Dead because I went into that line only for Virulent Walking Bomb, which was my bread and butter spell pretty much. It's a very strong AoE, and you can control when it goes off, and you can use it as a very powerful DoT against bosses.

I went into lightning only for Shock, I had no interest in SotC. It's an instant AoE, does good damage, and few things are resistant to lightning. Likewise, I had little interest in Blizzard. As for Mana Clash, I don't have the talents in front of me now, but isn't Spell Might also on that line right before it? That's 2 great spells in one tree, hard to pass up. Mana Clash is not only useful against Mages, it also pretty much one shots Shadows and Ash Wraiths etc.

I didn't take Crushing Prison because it's a single target spell that doesn't work on bosses. I don't think it's crucial, and I didn't want to waste a spell to get to it. I would have taken it if I had more spells.

Which brings us to Blood Wound and the Bloodmage spec. Overall, I found Blood Magic cumbersome and somewhat regretted getting it. I wanted to be a cloth caster and didn't want Arcane Warrior, but having to turn on Blood Magic to cast Blood Wound makes it a bit clunky. That's 3 talents spent to get a single spell, I don't know if it's ultimately worth it. It's also the reason I still didn't have the last 2 hexes by the time of that screenshot, I just hadn't been able to take them yet, I took them right after.

As for Ser Cauthrien, I used VWB and Curse of Mortality on her as DoTs, fully debuffed her, and used Glyph of Repulsion to keep her off of me and nuked her. Used Mind Blast, CoC, Force Field etc as needed when Repulsion was down or when she resisted it.

If I did it again, I might just take Blood Magic for the Spellpower boost and not take any of the talents and go into the Sleep/Horror line instead.

Modifié par Timortis, 23 février 2010 - 04:07 .


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Thanks for a quick reply.



Wasn't it risky to use shock in such close quarters? In terms of damage, do you really think this spell is worth it late game? I believe I've had it do around eighty or so damage, while enough, other spells could do more.



While Crushing Prison may not paralyze bosses, it still does to significant damage over time.



The reason I'm so interested in Blood Mage is because with the use of Blood Magic, you are able to finish most fights without ever using a single mana potion, which I suppose counts for something, even if they are incredibly cheap. Also, while the AI is bad, you can control some powerful creatures with Blood Control. I was able to control the Ogre Alpha in Orzamar with it before.



What are your thoughts on Spell Wisp? It also increases Spellpower by a good amount, though not as much as Spell Might.



I didn't know that Mana Clash affected Shadows and Ash Wraiths. Thanks for the tip.

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Timortis,



Quick question - Do you ever take Lel through the Marjolaine quest line? I'm thinking specifically of the 'Ambush' encounter and whether you managed to no-potion your way through it.