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[Dubiousity]

Every time I see an Infiltrator using one I'm extremely happy, because I know he/she will be cleaning up pretty well, which means easy credits/XP. I can't wait to get it myself.

Do people not like easier Credits/XP?

[ABjerre]

Edit: on a more serious note thogh, from what i've understood (not what i personally belive, but you can ask me that in private if you want to know), people want a harder game, and this particular weapon is interferring with that. So either it, or the people wielding it must be ner... rebalanced.

Because you know, god phorbid they should make public games appeal to the... public.

I know its not always an option, but i really think people should try and host their own games with sertain rules regarding weapons and gear if they think the public games are too easy because of the use of a particular weapon. If they dont have RL friends to game with, it takes a minimum of social skills to make some in game and play with them.

Modifié par ABjerre, 11 juin 2012 - 09:40 .

[sclera]

[Tokenusername]

I personally don't have alot of fun while wandering the map constatnly looking for something that hasn't been exploded yet.

However I can't really figure out the Krysae. When I use it it's damage output seems to vary wildly from almost nothing to like 3-4 shoting an atlas (on gold).

[JiceDuresh]

Because some people enjoy playing the game, as a team, and not just watching someone else play for 20 minutes to thier benefit.

Honestly, most of us like the Krysae. We really do. But we'd like it more if it didn't trivialise the only content we have.

[Holy-Hamster]

Simple answer, some of us like a challenge. Infiltrator + Kyrsae = faceroll.

I'll only do it if I feel like carrying randoms with terrible weapons. Otherwise forget it, too boring. I'll also leave games with other infiltrators using it. Cheeses the game too much.

[Dubiousity]

sclera wrote...

My apologise for being on the forum 1/7 instead of 24/7

[ToToRoTY]

Because Falcon is replaced? XD. I don't mind me some free credit, unlike those widow snipers wasting 5mins to kill 5enemies...

[vivanto]

Tokenusername wrote...
When I use it it's damage output seems to vary wildly from almost nothing to like 3-4 shoting an atlas (on gold).

I've noticed the same. It happens on pretty much every sniper rifle, but most noticeable on the krysae.

[Jarlan23]

Because it takes no skill to use, there's no need to aim at all with it, also it makes me feel worthless when I play because it one shots everything. It's basically a missile launcher that people can keep getting ammo for throughout the game.

[vware]

It's fun. Also, wildly unpredictable damage output.

[Quxorda]

My only problems with the Krysae are: 1 it's seemingly random damage to certain targets (elites and ravagers) sometimes a hit will take one bar and sometimes it'll take 50% regardless of where you aim. 2: the proximity detonation, it's nice shooting around corners but it's so freaking annoying trying to shoot anything behind another enemy. even a swarmer will cause the thing to explode. and 3 it seems to really mess with cloak, every other cloak when using this thing makes the cloak turn off almost instantly for no reason and the zoom in function counts as "charging" which also decloaks you.

It's fun turning enemies into gibs, but I prefer my Valiant in the end mostly due to those three issues.

[Dubiousity]

I mean, I am relatively new so it may be my mindset of "GET CREDITS FOR STUFF NOW", but hey...

[ABjerre]

vivanto wrote...

Tokenusername wrote...
When I use it it's damage output seems to vary wildly from almost nothing to like 3-4 shoting an atlas (on gold).

I've noticed the same. It happens on pretty much every sniper rifle, but most noticeable on the krysae.

I have a suspicion that it is related to lag somehow. I dont see it when hosting a game, but quite a lot when the connection to the host is buggy. Invisible walls in front of enemies, not being able to shoot over covers or close to corners - no fun at all.

[Dynamik78]

I think the sniper should be nerfed yes...but along with the invisible walls it hits or the blanks it fires
or not?

[vivanto]

ABjerre wrote...
I have a suspicion that it is related to lag somehow. I dont see it when hosting a game, but quite a lot when the connection to the host is buggy. Invisible walls in front of enemies, not being able to shoot over covers or close to corners - no fun at all.

That explains it for the krysae - much like falcon/striker or any projectile-based weapon - not for the heavy snipers, widow, javelin, bw all suffer from this.

I thought about lag too, but when I walk right in front of a prime for a direct bodyshot, there's no way that desynchronization made me miss it. Furthermore, I do some damage to it, so it hits, just that the damage is comparable to that of the eagle.

[Killahead]

Dubiousity wrote...

Every time I see an Infiltrator using one I'm extremely happy, because I know he/she will be cleaning up pretty well, which means easy credits/XP. I can't wait to get it myself.

Do people not like easier Credits/XP?

Yeah, in fact, if they hadn't implemented the AFK kick, then I wouldn't have played the game at all, since all I care about is getting those credits. I would join, serve as a decoy, and then proceed to watch TV while the Krysae user "cleaned up pretty well".

/sarcasm

I never do sarcasm, but I had to this time. I don't want easy credits. If I wanted that then I would have done the credit glitch way back when everyone was saying how you wouldn't risk getting banned if you turned the feedback option off. No, I said, in lobbies where this was proposed, I like to feel like I've earned it.

A good player with a Krysae makes for a utterly boring game. If I see someone with a high N7 rank, using the proper equipment along with his Krysae, then I leave, even if the credits would have been a sure thing.

[JiceDuresh]

Dubiousity wrote...

I mean, I am relatively new so it may be my mindset of "GET CREDITS FOR STUFF NOW", but hey...

Exactly. Once you get the MQuarian engineer and Krysae, what's the point in getting more credits when you already have the best thing the game can offer? It's not for challenge, since the Krysae removes any sense of the word. It's not to play as a team, cause that just makes other bored while they have nothing to kill.

The only thing I can think of is people are collectors and want to get all the weapons as fast as they can but not actaully use any of them.

Modifié par JiceDuresh, 11 juin 2012 - 08:23 .

[MoeRayShep]

While I don't mind a challenge, I've had plenty of PUG's that just put way too much burden on me and leave me feeling frustrated. I do think the Krysae is overpowered, or more importantly demands very little skill to do lots of damage with and is easily achievable.
Were the Krysae and Reegar Ultra-Rares I don't think anybody would be griping about either.
Still, I have to confess that when I'm in the mood to just blow stuff up like crazy, I'll tack some rail amps onto my Salarian Infiltrator and show those xenophobic Cerberus troops that they have a new cloaca on Glacier.
Just ran through a match like that with 100k score and the next behind me had 49k. It's completely reasonable to say this gun should be nerfed; I shouldn't have been able to do that well on Gold difficulty; but boy was it fun.

[Pitznik]

Dubiousity wrote...

Every time I see an Infiltrator using one I'm extremely happy, because I know he/she will be cleaning up pretty well, which means easy credits/XP. I can't wait to get it myself.

Do people not like easier Credits/XP?

You shouldn't really play this game for easy credits/xp, because there is nothing ahead of you where you will need those credits and xp, just more of the same (assuming you play Gold). If its easy already, what it will become when you will have all URs at X? Even easier, even less fun. Balance keeps games alive, power creep kills games. Also, it could be pretty disappointing to get this Black Widow to X and realize "damn, my rare Krysae still kills mobs faster". I suppose most people would prefer to realize the game became easier because they became very good at it, and not because they got a no-aim, exploding death gun.

Of course I may be wrong, and we enjoy the game in different way (vide poll showing around 35% BSN people for balancing Krysae and like 55% for leaving it alone). In that case, we simply want different things, and one of us will be disappointed no matter what.

Modifié par Pitznik, 11 juin 2012 - 08:24 .

[MoeRayShep]

JiceDuresh wrote...

Dubiousity wrote...

I mean, I am relatively new so it may be my mindset of "GET CREDITS FOR STUFF NOW", but hey...

Exactly. Once you get the MQuarian engineer and Krysae, what's the point in getting more credits when you already have the best thing the game can offer? It's no for challenge, since the Krysae removes any sense of the word. It's not to play as a team, cause that just makes other bored while they have nothing to kill.

The only thing I can think of is people are collectors and want to get all the weapons as fast as they can but not actaully use any of them.

There are a lot of different builds and loadouts which can be more devastating. The Claymore X is very popular on the Geth Infiltrator, but I can imagine that a Wraith X would be absurd.

[Siran]

Personally I don't like it all that much, as I tend to get lazy with it: not even aiming, just firing almost blindly. Somewhat takes the skill and reward for landing a good hit out of shooting imho. As far as sniper rifles go I prefer the high risk - high gain weapons like the two Widows or Javelin and to a degree Valiant (which is thanks to its ultra fast reload rather forgiving when it comes to missed shots)

But I wouldn't tell anyone to not use it in a PUG, it has great stopping and crowd control power. And even though I sometimes dislike when it just evaporates the target I was aiming at and maybe even stripped down to almost no health, I forget it all, when it blows up the Hunter directly in front of me that just happend to sneak up on me.

Modifié par Siran, 11 juin 2012 - 08:26 .

[Eelectrica]

I don't like it because it shoots too many blanks. At least on lvl 1. Too unreliable.
Very over rated weapon

[JiceDuresh]

MoeRayShep wrote...
There are a lot of different builds and loadouts which can be more devastating. The Claymore X is very popular on the Geth Infiltrator, but I can imagine that a Wraith X would be absurd.

I know there is, but that wasn't the underlying point. The point was that you should have a reason to play the game other than just credits and XP, I think I've played every character 40 times each beacuse I like trying new builds and new tactics and trying out thing I've never tried. But if you just want credits and XP, then what's the point once you have everything you'd need that credits and XP can get you?

[Quxorda]

Pitznik wrote...

Dubiousity wrote...

Every time I see an Infiltrator using one I'm extremely happy, because I know he/she will be cleaning up pretty well, which means easy credits/XP. I can't wait to get it myself.

Do people not like easier Credits/XP?

You shouldn't really play this game for easy credits/xp, because there is nothing ahead of you where you will need those credits and xp

Getting all the guns in the game and playing with them whenever the whim strikes you? Seems like a perfectly reasonable reason to play for credits to me.

JiceDuresh wrote...

MoeRayShep wrote...
There
are a lot of different builds and loadouts which can be more
devastating. The Claymore X is very popular on the Geth Infiltrator, but
I can imagine that a Wraith X would be absurd.

I
know there is, but that wasn't the underlying point. The point was that
you should have a reason to play the game other than just credits and
XP, I think I've played every character 40 times each beacuse I like
trying new builds and new tactics and trying out thing I've never tried.
But if you just want credits and XP, then what's the point once you
have everything you'd need that credits and XP can get you?

To play with what those credits unlocked?

Modifié par Quxorda, 11 juin 2012 - 08:31 .