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#151
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I like the Krysae, its like a proximity mine on steroids :) I do wish it did a little more damage though, three shots to kill a centurion is no good

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DaftArbiter wrote...

It's a pain watching someone who completely sucks kill a Phantom in 5 seconds because they shot at their feet while invisible. Any moron can do that. And that's exactly what every moron is doing. Infiltrator spam is annoying enough, GI spam even more annoying than that. But krysae spam is the worst because it completely negates the need for any kind of skill to completely obliterate anything on the map.

Tell me, what's the point of co-op if one guy just kills everything by shooting in its general direction? LOLEASYCREDITSEASYWIN? No thanks. I actually like a challenge. I play gold and almost always get the highest score by a wide margin no matter what class I play, and I play all classes. Or, at least, I was topping scoreboards until the krysaes started showing up everywhere.

It was fun for me, having to be a leader and carry a team. Now there's nothing to lead or carry. Every **** with a krysae not only can take care of themself, but kills anything before I get anywhere near it.


which is more of a pain, watching someone with no skill kill a phantom quickly... or losing the match?

sure, it'd be much better to not have to deal with those people with little to no skill... but nothing is preventing them from entering gold lobbies before they're ready.  so... if we're stuck with them, we might as well give them the tools to at least be useful instead of being a drain on the team.

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PluralAces wrote...

I like the Krysae, its like a proximity mine on steroids :) I do wish it did a little more damage though, three shots to kill a centurion is no good

Really it's the same as all the SRs, underpowered on anything but infiltrators.

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Blind2Society wrote...

PluralAces wrote...

I like the Krysae, its like a proximity mine on steroids :) I do wish it did a little more damage though, three shots to kill a centurion is no good

Really it's the same as all the SRs, underpowered on anything but infiltrators.


um...I didnt realize all the SR's can do splash damage like the Krysae...thanks for the tip Posted Image

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Blind2Society wrote...

PluralAces wrote...

I like the Krysae, its like a proximity mine on steroids :) I do wish it did a little more damage though, three shots to kill a centurion is no good

Really it's the same as all the SRs, underpowered on anything but infiltrators.


whereas if they change it to an AR, as alot of people are asking...

it becomes underpowered on infils and overpowered on everything else.

wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing, snipers still have the widow, black widow, valiant and javelin.  and now soldiers would have an ar actually worth a dam to them.

course... it should be noted that a properly specced soldier with adrenaline rush can be almost as effective with the krysae as a sniper with cloak.  not quite, but almost.

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huh, there is no pelasing anyone, besides I can say that I was fed up with the amount of times I have geared up with all 4 consumables only to lose the game after 2 waves = waste of 4 consumables and very little credits. I am glad to finish a game instead of dying on wave 10. Before this patch I stopped playing the game, I was so bored of playing it on GOLD, it was like a damn raid in wow. One mistake and wipe... damn mobs were hard. Still so far I haven't been in a game with more than 1 at a time. COuldn't care less if that guy had 200k more than me. I was glad to use my Engineer and strip shields from enemies to let them kill everything in sight.

Maybe they should add a new difficulty level Diamond or whatever... or add a new faction of enemies which are harder. Even better increase damage on all weapons:)))))))))))))))))))))

Modifié par Drei, 11 juin 2012 - 02:00 .


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I don't know? This infiltrator rocks the Krysae.

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Aiyie wrote...

whereas if they change it to an AR, as alot of people are asking...

it becomes underpowered on infils and overpowered on everything else.

wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing, snipers still have the widow, black widow, valiant and javelin.  and now soldiers would have an ar actually worth a dam to them.


Or they could just add a really good AR in the next DLC.

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The Krysea simply put... Is so OP with the GI that a group of them will breeze through any gold game in approx. 25-32 minutes with a success rate averaging 90%. I have one. I abuse it. My friends have one and they abuse it too.

To fix things... Bioware only needs to switch the Krysea to the assault riffle group. It would fix two wrongs (assault riffles being too weak and Infiltrator class abusing it with cloak)

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Aiyie wrote...

DaftArbiter wrote...

It's a pain watching someone who completely sucks kill a Phantom in 5 seconds because they shot at their feet while invisible. Any moron can do that. And that's exactly what every moron is doing. Infiltrator spam is annoying enough, GI spam even more annoying than that. But krysae spam is the worst because it completely negates the need for any kind of skill to completely obliterate anything on the map.

Tell me, what's the point of co-op if one guy just kills everything by shooting in its general direction? LOLEASYCREDITSEASYWIN? No thanks. I actually like a challenge. I play gold and almost always get the highest score by a wide margin no matter what class I play, and I play all classes. Or, at least, I was topping scoreboards until the krysaes started showing up everywhere.

It was fun for me, having to be a leader and carry a team. Now there's nothing to lead or carry. Every **** with a krysae not only can take care of themself, but kills anything before I get anywhere near it.


which is more of a pain, watching someone with no skill kill a phantom quickly... or losing the match?


In my opinion? The first one.

Gold is supposed to be challenging. If I get crap teammates, so be it. It adds to the challenge. But just running over everything all the time because of a simple gun is really boring to me.

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People wanna be SUPERSTARS, top of the scoreboard in a co-op game? Why even have a scoreboard??? lol

You lot remind me of football and how the UK team plays, they are all Superstars that's why they always lose:)))) Different story if they were scoring goals from midfield. This doesn't even apply since football is PVP really. Not sure what I could compare a co-op mode to.

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I love the weapon - when it works. I sometimes fire my 3 shots...and nothing. The other SRs have similar issues but in my experience the Krysae is the worst with blanks.

I feel relieved when all 3 shots actually work.

Modifié par SuperHamzah, 11 juin 2012 - 02:56 .


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I dislike it because it is SO good, that I feel like I am gimping my times when I don't use it.

I so want to roll with an Avenger and Phalanx... but my time will be above 20~ so I use a Krysae to save time.

Time = Money.

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loungeshep wrote...
I don't know? This infiltrator rocks the Krysae.


And that is why people hate it. They dont want you to rock with it because the more good players there are, the easyer the game will be. They would like you to perform mediocre with another weapon, so we may continue to bask in their glory as they dominate the scoreboards of hard games.

(By the way, i'm not saying that you are mediocre, i dont know you - for all i know you could be godlike with a Black Widow)

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Aiyie wrote...
ill tell you what, since you seem to be wanting proof, and i don't feel like getting a capture card in order to make a video to put on youtube... my gamertag on the 360 is Memnoch069... i will gladly do a gold match, any map, against cerberus, with you to personally show you the effectiveness of the krysae against phantoms.


I play on PC, and i dont deny that it is an effective weapon. I am saying that it is not as effective as some people lay it out to be. Theres is quite a span between being able to kill a phantom in 3 shots, poor aim or not, to being able to kill 3 phantoms in 3 shots flat on a regular basis - not just when the stars allign.

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I don't want this gun nerfed because I like having options. Honestly though I can only use this gun maybe 2x a night before I get bored with it, but like I said, I like having the option of using it as is.

That being said, anyone who thinks this gun isn't stupid powerful is either doing it wrong or playing with people who are doing it wrong.

I took pics of my 2 games with it last night on my phone (which I can figure out how to upload if you doubt) ... Anyway the scores were on random/Cerberus/gold

Me 159,269. Me 161,140
2nd 90,565. 2nd 41,594
3rd 81,176. 3rd 33,690
4th 75,085. 4th 19,220

We wiped on wave 10 on the 2nd set of scores.

With salarian infiltrator you can 1-2 shot anything but atlas vs Cerberus.
Cloak > ED/PMine > fire fire = dead > fire at something else > reload (cancel it with cloak) > repeat

Some people say guardians are hard to kill because of not having penetration ... Wrong ...
Simply stagger their shield with PMine or ED then splatter.

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ABjerre wrote...

loungeshep wrote...
I don't know? This infiltrator rocks the Krysae.


And that is why people hate it. They dont want you to rock with it because the more good players there are, the easyer the game will be. They would like you to perform mediocre with another weapon, so we may continue to bask in their glory as they dominate the scoreboards of hard games.

(By the way, i'm not saying that you are mediocre, i dont know you - for all i know you could be godlike with a Black Widow)

The easier game will be the more likely it is that Bioware would yet again buff the enemies. Is that a better option?

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From what I read, i determine people who are complaining about it being OP play on Silver. Any gun is OP on Silver its why people want a higher Difficulty setting added to the game.

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DarthSliver wrote...



From what I read, i determine people who are complaining about it being OP play
on Silver. Any gun is OP on Silver its why people want a higher Difficulty
setting added to the game.




I agree. Last night I thought OK let’s give this a go, had mine at level
3. Of course I play on Gold since all my classes are 20. Did 3 games and yes I
was in the top 4:)))) I was first at one point then 2nd and even last but
all our scores were 100k each so the difference was about 1 2k. How is that
OP???



Also it took me at least 2 shots to kill a normal mob whilst cloaked, 3 to 4
for shield and armour such a pyros... bosses was just as hard. Only thing that
was easier for me is that I did not have to line up headshots. That's it
but the rest of my team was doing just as well. On the other hand I had to
keep running for ammo all the time.



OP??? Yeah right... obviously people aren't playing this on Gold. Any decent
weapon is OP on Bronze and Silver. Seriously WHINERS!!!



It's like going in WoW and whining that it is so easy to complete dungeons
and raids, need to nerf the class or gear... when you use a level 85 in Epics
to do a level 70 dungeon... or an old raid. Grow up people...

Modifié par Drei, 12 juin 2012 - 11:20 .


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I didn't know other weapons also hit enemies when you miss, have aoe damage and pick up targets behind cover on Silver. Thanks for the tip, bro!

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Drei wrote...

DarthSliver wrote...



From what I read, i determine people who are complaining about it being OP play
on Silver. Any gun is OP on Silver its why people want a higher Difficulty
setting added to the game.




I agree. Last night I thought OK let’s give this a go, had mine at level
3. Of course I play on Gold since all my classes are 20. Did 3 games and yes I
was in the top 4:)))) I was first at one point then 2nd and even last but
all our scores were 100k each so the difference was about 1 2k. How is that
OP???



Also it took me at least 2 shots to kill a normal mob whilst cloaked, 3 to 4
for shield and armour such a pyros... bosses was just as hard. Only thing that
was easier for me is that I did not have to line up headshots. That's it
but the rest of my team was doing just as well. On the other hand I had to
keep running for ammo all the time.



OP??? Yeah right... obviously people aren't playing this on Gold. Any decent
weapon is OP on Bronze and Silver. Seriously WHINERS!!!



It's like going in WoW and whining that it is so easy to complete dungeons
and raids, need to nerf the class or gear... when you use a level 85 in Epics
to do a level 70 dungeon... or an old raid. Grow up people...


Dude I play alt of games now on gold where the 3 other players use Krysae and it's too OP cus they spend moeny just to Max it then just play golds and ruin it for other people buy always knicking every kill there is!
They need to down the damage or something cus it's making the stupid too play. 

And nice WoW reffrence!