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[Drussius]

SinerAthin wrote...

Drussius wrote...

It bothers me even more when anyone bothers to revive him when he goes down. If you're not going to help the team, why should the team help you? This is the one and only time I advocate actually NOT helping a teammate. When the teammate is a tool who is more concerned with his score than the team.

An idiot with a body and a gun is still an idiot with a body and a gun.

He can help kill enemies, or he can take a bullet for you.

I always ress people, no matter how clueless they may be, because the more people alive; the better your chances. I've ressed noobs multiple times on numerous occassions, even with the only intent of having them act as a distraction for the enemy while I finished them off

As I said, I am usually all about the team, and this guy I'm describing is the ONE case when I'm not. And it's because he's usually more hinderance than help. The kind of guy that does this is the same guy that kills the warp-primed targets before any others, thus ruining your biotic combos. This is the guy that snipes the target you're in the middle of heavy meleeing instead of the three guys firing at you while you do it. This is the guy that leads enemies right TO the infiltrator who is trying to complete the activate/deactivate objectives. In short, this guy is a liability to the team, and nine times out of ten, the waves go much more smoothly once he's dead.

[skuid]

-host insta-killed by phantom on wave 10, rage quit and lost connection to the match on gold. Happened to me 30 min ago
-people who are just worried about getting on top of the score table
-those who ignore objective and run around the map killing everything that move and dying alon in the oposite side of the map
-useless warp in a lagged match
-magnetic banshee
-everything about the geth (rocket spamming, insane long range for the pyros, constant stagger...)
... and a lot of things I can't remember right now

[Lividliver]

Drussius wrote...



It bothers me even more when anyone bothers to revive him when he goes down. If you're not going to help the team, why should the team help you? This is the one and only time I advocate actually NOT helping a teammate. When the teammate is a tool who is more concerned with his score than the team.

There is another time where I don't bother to revive a teammate....a sniper that did not bother to check his surroundings(camping at the same spot throughout) and end up dying among a whole mess of enemies.Dying to a solitary phantom/hunter creeping up on them I can understand but not bothering to look around every once in awhile,that is a whole new level of dumbness.It is even more facepalming when they still refuse to look around when there are sounds of banshee screams and atlas missiles exploding near them.

[Tory_Asher]

I hate:
- disconects
- long "quick game search" time
- game-leave players
- easy "gold" difficulty
Anything else is just problems of game-skills of casual players, that play like a hands-and-head-off zombie

[NucularPikinic]

 Getting lag insta-killed by a Phantom or Banshee then watching my teammates wipe out soon after without trying to use equipment to finish the wave makes me the most mad.

Especially when I still had 5 medigels left, ready to use just in case I needed to get back into the fight.

This happens too often and kills my good mood when playing.

[Mystical_Gaming]

When I get downed in a match. Doesn't matter if it's bronze, silver, or gold I don't like getting downed ever. It doesn't happen often when I use my best classes but it irks me when it does happen. It's usually some bs thing I can't avoid.

For example: I was searching gold and and it put me in a game in progress. Right when the screen fades from black to the game a cerberus unit has downed me before I can even move my character. I hate crap that is out of my control as a player when I KNOW if the game responded to my inputs at the required time I could do even better. Like when I press the dang spec ops button to give myself health and shields but it never registers the instant I need them or when I try to revive a teammate but the character goes in cover instead. Also using a medpack only to get downed right away again because you can't run away from the units that are attacking you like phantoms.

9/10 my 'bad' matches (bad for me is getting downed once) is because the game doesn't respond to my actions ... thats what makes me most annoyed / mad in a match.

[Blind2Society]

SinerAthin wrote...

Drussius wrote...

It bothers me even more when anyone bothers to revive him when he goes down. If you're not going to help the team, why should the team help you? This is the one and only time I advocate actually NOT helping a teammate. When the teammate is a tool who is more concerned with his score than the team.

An idiot with a body and a gun is still an idiot with a body and a gun.

He can help kill enemies, or he can take a bullet for you.

I always ress people, no matter how clueless they may be, because the more people alive; the better your chances. I've ressed noobs multiple times on numerous occassions, even with the only intent of having them act as a distraction for the enemy while I finished them off

I originally agreed with drussius but after reading your post, I have changed my mind. That is actually some pretty good insight. Still, I won't go running through the gates of hell for them like I would others.

On a related note, it's also relatively easy to see when someone is doing it for their score or if they are trying to draw enemies off or need to regain shields/a bit of composure.

[LDStaredown]

When I'm trying to revive someone and all I can do is take cover. Or when I'm cutting a corner to run away from a Banshee and I take cover on said corner. I hate the magic A button.

[N7 Banshee Bait]

Redgoon23 wrote...

People that don't go into the hack circle because they want to get kills.

[CptBomBom00]

really bad lone-wolfs, damn if you want to go solo, that's k, but done't expect us to revive you after you get you ass ripped apart by brute.

[Drussius]

Blind2Society wrote...

SinerAthin wrote...

Drussius wrote...

It bothers me even more when anyone bothers to revive him when he goes down. If you're not going to help the team, why should the team help you? This is the one and only time I advocate actually NOT helping a teammate. When the teammate is a tool who is more concerned with his score than the team.

An idiot with a body and a gun is still an idiot with a body and a gun.

He can help kill enemies, or he can take a bullet for you.

I always ress people, no matter how clueless they may be, because the more people alive; the better your chances. I've ressed noobs multiple times on numerous occassions, even with the only intent of having them act as a distraction for the enemy while I finished them off

I originally agreed with drussius but after reading your post, I have changed my mind. That is actually some pretty good insight. Still, I won't go running through the gates of hell for them like I would others.

On a related note, it's also relatively easy to see when someone is doing it for their score or if they are trying to draw enemies off or need to regain shields/a bit of composure.

Oh, I agree. I can recognize the guy who is trying to draw enemies off or get out of a sticky situation. And I'd go well out of my way to help that guy if he went down in the process, because he's trying to help the team.

I'm talking about the guy who runs off to pad his score, attacking everything in sight, especially if he's doing it just outside the hack zone, so it's obvious he's not trying to decoy anything, he's just on a power trip. Novaguards are especially prone to doing this, which is why I always sigh when I see one on my team. It's always easy to see who is in it for the leaderboard and not the team. It's usually extremely obvious. Especially if you happen to go down right next to them. Because half the time they don't even bother trying to save you. They just run off to kill more stuff and leave you to bleed out.

I actually had a vanguard player in a silver game this weekend charge in to hit a geth trooper that was about to stomp me. I was like "Sweet! Thanks, man," only to have him immediately charge an enemy at the far side of the map and leave me there to bleed out. THAT is the guy I'm talking about.

[Blind2Society]

Husks.

If there are any other enemies nearby (especially banshees) you know you're dead and there's nothing you can do about it. All because of some stupid little ****** ant enemy. GRRR.

[Dazy]

Redgoon23 wrote...

People that don't go into the hack circle because they want to get kills.

[Sidney]

Drussius wrote...

I'm talking about the guy who runs off to pad his score, attacking everything in sight, especially if he's doing it just outside the hack zone, so it's obvious he's not trying to decoy anything, he's just on a power trip. Novaguards are especially prone to doing this, which is why I always sigh when I see one on my team.

On a hack mission a nova guard, especially if they are armed with a shotgun like most are/should be are well neigh useless in the hack zone - same for all those Reegar armed Vorchas I see who can do zippo in hack/extract missions. The time difference between 3 and 4 is slim. They're usually better off being "out there" where they can actually use the skills and weapons they have to keep baddies off you instead of just being a warm body in the zone. They might actually be trying to be helpful and not just a jerk.

I think all of your judgements are way, way, way too subjective. I'm a "lone wolf" because I cover edges and flanks. I'm usually not near anyone else on my team and will actively try and find out where everyone else isn't. I don't want kills but I hate surprises that hit the team from behind or the flank. The end result is that while 3 people battle 1 spawn point I battle another and so I get a lot of kills. Am I kill stealing or playing a useful role? I also tend not to rez a ton of folks because usually there are people closer to anyone who goes down due to the whole issue discussed above. I rez when I can and try and rally to the team when things go sideways but on the happy path I might not very really see people from my team.

[Blind2Society]

Drussius wrote...

I actually had a vanguard player in a silver game this weekend charge in to hit a geth trooper that was about to stomp me. I was like "Sweet! Thanks, man," only to have him immediately charge an enemy at the far side of the map and leave me there to bleed out. THAT is the guy I'm talking about.

Wow, that is so dick it made me chuckle.

As for Vanguards leaving the circle, you do have to remember that the easiest way for them to replenish their shields is simply to charge so not all of them are just trying to up their score. Then again, they are often easy to tell apart as well.

[SocraticMethod]

I guess it's good to be a Mass Reject, in this clan we don't make mistakes. Have fun out there! ~

[toastar]

Dazy wrote...

Redgoon23 wrote...

People that don't go into the hack circle because they want to get kills.

Few Exceptions though.

For Example, on giant, when you get the circle on the upper courtyard between the boxes, I want someone on the ramp to the right, behind the railing. Not only does he lock out the spawpoint below him, on the ammo box, allowing you to take cover in the circle, he can also provide excellent surpression fire to the spawnpoints near the dropzone.

I will usually make that suggestion, but won't be the one to do it, instead going to the circle, eventhough as a sniping infiltrator it would be right up my ally.

Unless people know me, they'd otherwise assume I'm just doing it for the kills.

Modifié par toastar, 11 juin 2012 - 12:33 .

[funmachine]

- Infiltrators not running objectives so I have to do it with my adept.
- People not staying in the hack circle. Honestly, if everyone keeps at it from the start, you can go back to glorious murder in a heartbeat.
- People who don't revive me while they're standing on top of me (unless it's still swarming with hunters/pyros/whatever, then I can understand)
- Disconnects on wave 10 or extraction
- Magnetic banshees and phantoms

[funmachine]

toastar wrote...

Dazy wrote...

Redgoon23 wrote...

People that don't go into the hack circle because they want to get kills.

Few Exceptions though.

For Example, on giant, when you get the circle on the upper courtyard between the boxes, I want someone on the ramp to the right, behind the railing. Not only does he lock out the spawpoint below him, on the ammo box, allowing you to take cover in the circle, he can also provide excellent surpression fire to the spawnpoints near the dropzone.

I will usually make that suggestion, but won't be the one to do it, instead going to the circle, eventhough as a sniping infiltrator it would be right up my ally.

Unless people know me, they'd otherwise assume I'm just doing it for the kills.

Hm, good point. I'd never considered that. Kudos to you, sir!

[ErrorTagUnknown]

Redgoon23 wrote...

People that don't go into the hack circle because they want to get kills.

Generally this is a bad thing..... However - occasionally it is done in a way meant to be benficial - i've done it myself occasionally.  You can draw the fire away from the hack circle, and significantly thin out who makes it to you hackers (this works well with say ... the vorcha)

[ErrorTagUnknown]

oh huh - already said. should have read the second page

[Drussius]

Blind2Society wrote...

Drussius wrote...

I actually had a vanguard player in a silver game this weekend charge in to hit a geth trooper that was about to stomp me. I was like "Sweet! Thanks, man," only to have him immediately charge an enemy at the far side of the map and leave me there to bleed out. THAT is the guy I'm talking about.

Wow, that is so dick it made me chuckle.

As for Vanguards leaving the circle, you do have to remember that the easiest way for them to replenish their shields is simply to charge so not all of them are just trying to up their score. Then again, they are often easy to tell apart as well.

Exactly. I play all classes equally. I pretty much pick a class, play it to 20, promote and then pick a new class. So I am aware that Vanguards are a bit hampered by being in the circle. And I have no problem if a vanguard charges out of the circle, gets some kills, and returns. Or even if they charge out, draw a bunch of aggro, and start leading the enemies away. Both are just fine. I've done both myself. But some guys are obviously just trying to kill lots and lots of stuff. Whether someone else has it covered or not.

But as you said, it's easy to tell the difference if you've played this game much. And to the other guy who said I was judging too situationally (I would quote you but I don't know how to include multiple quotes in one post) I don't mind lone wolf characters. I don't care if people outscore me. I can be on the bottom of the leaderboard and be happy with it as long as I feel I helped the team. And being a lone wolf can indeed help. In fact if I play a vanguard or any character that shakes the screen with explosive ordinance (such as the Scorpion) or powers (Nova or Shockwave, for example), I will purposly try to stay AWAY from the team so I'm not disrupting the aim of snipers. But again I can usually even spot these "lone wolf team player" types. Because people like yourself will be off killing mobs on the other side of the map, but are unlikely to suddenly streak in to strike the guy on MY side of the map that I was winding up to Falcon Punch, following it with a Nova before flying back off to the other side of the map. Because guys like you aren't doing it just to wrack up maximum body count, while the people that irk me ARE. And are OBVIOUS about it.

[vware]

SinerAthin wrote...

People who die.

People who die together leaving you to solo the rest of the round.

People who don't bring medigel.

People who medigel before wave 4.

People who don't bring rockets.

People who waste rockets in non-life threatening situations.

People who die constantly. Especuially far away from the group.

People sporting inferior weapon combinations.(Assault Rifles etc)

People sporting bad weapon combinations (Adept snipers)

People hugging phantoms and banshees.

People going rambo.

People following the infiltrator at the 1234 objective.

People congregation around the pizzaman rather than head out and distract the enemy's fire away from him.

And so on and so on...

Seems like you could use a cookie.