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[Kuravid]

So I'm wondering, does anyone have any recommendations for fantasy novels, movies or shows (other than the Lord of the Rings and the DA novels) that are of good or great quality and at the very least really entertaining? Also, if you have the time, can you explain why said novel/movie/t.v. show is really great or good in your opinion?

I ask because, since I've played Dragon Age, I've taken an interest in exploring the fantasy genre, be it in book, movie or T.V. form. I haven't actually read much fantasy myself---the two series of books that I've read that can even be considered fantasy are the Chronicles of Narnia (in like the fourth grade) and His Dark Materials trilogy. I have, however, read some books and have watched some shows that, though not exactly "hard" fantasy, are at least fantastic in nature, like Carnivale, Hyperion and the Talisman. Beyond that, though, I haven't had much experience.

*EDIT: Also, Stephen King's Dark Tower series was excellent, and I suppose you could call that Gun & Sorcery.

Modifié par Kuravid, 12 décembre 2009 - 10:38 .

[Trigonous]

Recently I just got through some of Raymond Feists works. Start out with Magician: Apprentice and Magician: Master (I think it's only one book titled Magician in Europe), Silverthorn, and A Darkness at Sethanon. That's the first series. I've gotten through three of his series (all set in the same world, usually with different characters). He has 10 series so far.

They remind me a lot of Tolkien fantasy (I see you haven't listed LotR, you should definitely read that), but they are a lot more "hard", I'd compare them to Dragon Age, "dark fantasy" if you will.

Modifié par Trigonous, 12 décembre 2009 - 08:54 .

[Monstruo696]

Fantasy?



Hmm...



Hmm...



HNNNNGH...



*Starts going red*

*Goes cross-eyed*

*Turns purple*

*Starts foaming at the mouth*



Nope, I can't come up with anything fantasy related, but if you like sci-fi, you should watch Firefly. The TV series got canceled about half-way, but they're still a good watch. They got canceled due to lack of funding, not due to suckiness.

[Kuravid]

Monstruo696 wrote...

Fantasy?

Hmm...

Hmm...

HNNNNGH...

*Starts going red*
*Goes cross-eyed*
*Turns purple*
*Starts foaming at the mouth*

Nope, I can't come up with anything fantasy related, but if you like sci-fi, you should watch Firefly. The TV series got canceled about half-way, but they're still a good watch. They got canceled due to lack of funding, not due to suckiness.

Oh yes, I watched Firefly. It's the only Joss Whedon show I actually liked. Enjoyed the movie, too, though I was kind of disappointed that all of their problems ended up having something to do with the Reavers (and Rain was kind of annoying).

[Adria Teksuni]

Michael Moorcock's Eternal Champions (Elric, Corum, Hawkmoon, Erekose, Jherek) etc. are must reads for fantasy lovers IMHO.

[Tyrax Lightning]

My mom & I mourn the loss of the Firefly show as well.



I recommend The Golden Compass line of books.

[kingthrall]

books- the last wish by andrzej sapkowski (the witcher)



i read a lot of dragonlance it is sort of like my personal collection. You also got the forgotten realms series of books but these are actually came after the dragonlance series.



Most of the dragonlance authors came from the greyhawk novels. The origonal D&D novels, some of these are very hard to find as they are old but greyhawk is the daddy of the the fantasy novels

[Sa Seba]

The Prince of Nothing series by R. Scott Bakker is something I would recommend. It is quite dark but ultimately rewarding.

kingthrall wrote...

books- the last wish by andrzej sapkowski (the witcher)

Second that ;-)   and add to that the Blood of Elves, also part of the witcher universe.

Modifié par Sa Seba, 13 décembre 2009 - 06:42 .

[ajax65]

I can't belive no one has suggested Robert A Salvatore's Dark Elf Trilogy!, if the first 20 pages don't suck you in I'll eat my helm

[TalsiStael_2]

To counter balance all the dark fantasy recommendations, bring forth... Sir Terry Pratchett!



I find his Diskworld series wickedly funny, extremely satisfying with great characters and never boring, ever deepening lore of his world. Which does contain a fare share of wizards, witches, trolls and dwarves, humans, battles and scheming... but happens to be riding in space on the back of a giant space turtle.



And another Firefly liker, I admit.

[Inzhuna]

Surprised no one suggested Song of Ice and Fire, since that is inspiration for DAO. First one is Game of thrones. But I warn you in advance - it's VERY long and long-winded, and the last book is not out yet.

[Archdemon Cthulhu]

Anything Neil Gaiman's ever written, be it novel or comic book or anything else.



If you're looking for High Fantasy, I've heard Terry Goodkind and George R.R. Martin are good. Also, Tad Williams.

[Ravenshrike]

Fantasy shows. I can't think of a single good one that's not a cartoon/anime. I suppose if you consider fantasy sci-fi to be a category that Farscape counts, since none of the elements really need science to stand on their own. Weber's Bahzell Bahnakson's series is good, as is Ringo's Council Wars series. Although the latter is technically science fantasy. Both can be found at baencd.thefifthimperium.com

Modifié par Ravenshrike, 16 décembre 2009 - 08:08 .

[Inzhuna]

Oh, good fantasy tv show is The Tenth Kingdom, Merlin and Odysseus (not really fantasy but still). They're all quite old though, from the 90s.

[ponozsticka]

Well I saw first serie of Legend of the Seeker (based on Terry Goodkind´s Sword of Truth) it is quiet good...after few parts, I can reccomand that.



As for his books, there are over 20 parts of Sword of Truth...and it is long enough so it could take you some time



Also Sapkowski as was mentioned, all five books about Gerald the White Wolf are great, but I liked collection of his short-stories titled Tandaradei! (contains 4 short-stories), but I´m not sure if you can get that one, since its quiet old book (well 1994)

[Panderfringe]

Are you manly? Are you masculine to the very extreme? Do you cosntantly wish to push it to the limit?



Then I have a tale for you!



Ciaphas Cain, HERO OF THE IMPERIUM.

[Inzhuna]

ponozsticka wrote...

Also Sapkowski as was mentioned, all five books about Gerald the White Wolf are great, but I liked collection of his short-stories titled Tandaradei! (contains 4 short-stories), but I´m not sure if you can get that one, since its quiet old book (well 1994)

I don't think anything of Sapkowski's is translated into English besides the 2 Witcher novels. I personally read all of them (in Russian), and he is one of my fav authors, but it's frustrating how slow the translation to English goes. Next book is only out late next year.

[Few87]

Im going to suggest the Gormenghast trilogy (or at least the first 2) as i always do. Im not going to lie to you, its a very heavy read but the level of description is just awesome. There is no epic plot about saving the world, its quite a depresing set of books. I cant do them justice describing them after 3 glasses of wine :S but have a look at them on amazon or wikipedia.

[Inhuman one]

Conan the Barbarian is a great movie, dont expect deep dialogue from it or a mindblowing plot though, but its a great fantasy movie regardless.



The music is fantastic, as are the battle scenes. And dont forget that Conan pretty much shaped the image of the typical barbarian for many fantasy settings.

[MegaTofu]

Capt. Obvious wrote...

I suggest going here.

As would I and I would suggest you to start at the top. Since you said that you don't want the works of Tolkien suggested, I can recommend reading the "Wheel of Time"-series, by Robert Jordan. They're some of the best written books (not excluding non-fantasy) I've ever read, and it is very original within it's genre. There are no elfs, dwarfs or longbearded wizzards, but the universe is still very complex with plenty of interresting ideas. It is a more "mature" fantasy series, and in my mind that is part of what makes it so great. The books are all about character development, and it is amazingly well done.

I have just finished reading the 4th book (there are 12 total), and I can't wait to get on with the next one. It should be said that each book are roughly 800-1000 pages and as far as I know only in English (I am Danish myself, and reading them in English should be no problem). It will take you a long time to read this series depending on how intensively and often you read them, but I promise you: They're worth the time.

Anyways, I could easily ramble on about the qualities of these books, but do yourself and read them if you are into fantasy. I promise you, you wont regret it.

PS: This is one of the first fantasy settings in which I find magic extremely fascinating, intruiging and interesting.

PPS: Bonus info: There are a lot of things in the Dragon Age-universe, which bear simularity to the Wheel of TIme-universe. I suspect BioWare have been inspired by the series, which is absolutely okay with me

Modifié par MegaTofu, 16 décembre 2009 - 11:50 .

[ponozsticka]

Inzhuna wrote...

I don't think anything of Sapkowski's is translated into English besides the 2 Witcher novels. I personally read all of them (in Russian), and he is one of my fav authors, but it's frustrating how slow the translation to English goes. Next book is only out late next year.

Time to learn Polish

[Archdemon Cthulhu]

Ugh, Wheel of Time. I don't get why its so popular, but apparently people like it, so you might as well try it and see I suppose.



Anyways I'm back to offer two more choices: If you want something a bit different, still entirely fantasy but it drops the medieval setting and the standard races and goes for a steampunk victorian vibe with all new kinds of races, I would recommend Perdido Street Station and the Scar, both by China Mieville. Excellent stuff IMO.



Also, His Dark Materials trilogy by Philip Pullman, some people call them Children's Lit, but they are still great reads and fairly dark at times as well.

[Inzhuna]

ponozsticka wrote...
Time to learn Polish

I'd love to reread Witcher in original

On the topic, remembered Robin Hobb. She is really good and quite original. I love the Liveship Traders trilogy.

[Rheannan]

Kuravid wrote...

So I'm wondering, does anyone have any recommendations for fantasy novels, movies or shows (other than the Lord of the Rings and the DA novels) that are of good or great quality and at the very least really entertaining?

I sent you a list in a message. Hopefully there's something there you're interested in...

Modifié par Rheannan, 17 décembre 2009 - 10:23 .