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[RedArmyShogun]

Blacklash93 wrote...

DarkDragon777 wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

But using the word "extreme" is not appropriate here if you look at it relative to the extremes of the far leaning of the political spectrum.

Yes, it is.

Would you really call someone an "extreme moderate"? That's an oxymoron.

Sure I would. Its called the Average American Politician.

Flips flops so much from one end to the other not even they know what platform they stand on.

Modifié par Confess-A-Bear, 12 juin 2012 - 04:01 .

[DarkDragon777]

Blacklash93 wrote...

DarkDragon777 wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

But using the word "extreme" is not appropriate here if you look at it relative to the extremes of the far leaning of the political spectrum.

Yes, it is.

Would you really call someone an "extreme moderate"? That's an oxymoron.

Not when you're talking about a postion on a political spectrum and not the idea of "moderation".

[DarkDragon777]

android654 wrote...

Execpt both of those men were elected and reassigned power to their offices to be dictators. That's what all dictators do. Monarchs are handed all the power with none of the work. That's the difference, the process to which they came to power.

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

[android654]

DarkDragon777 wrote...

android654 wrote...



Are you honestly implying that a position of sole governance over people with no electoral procedures and practically zero accountability can either be left or right? Don't be a silly c*nt.

Yes.

And inevitably, the person who is opposed to hate speech one minute makes slanderous and derogatory remarks the next minute as they're losing the argument.

Not really an argument when all your responses are one word retorts. If you knew what you were talking about, you'd know you're blatantly wrong.

I said nothing of the sort, in fact I defended a person's right to "hate speech," I just said I personally don't care for racially motivated ones for personal reasons. C*nt isn't hate speech, unless of course you are a c*nt and are in the closet about it. If I wanted to, I could really give you something that would justify hate speech. It does however show that you're extremely thin skinned which is why the profanity ban probably exists.

[android654]

DarkDragon777 wrote...

android654 wrote...

Execpt both of those men were elected and reassigned power to their offices to be dictators. That's what all dictators do. Monarchs are handed all the power with none of the work. That's the difference, the process to which they came to power.

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

You're saying Stalin and Hitler were not elected to office and redirected responsibilities to their offices to obtain power? You are a silly c*nt.

[DarkDragon777]

android654 wrote...

DarkDragon777 wrote...

android654 wrote...

Execpt both of those men were elected and reassigned power to their offices to be dictators. That's what all dictators do. Monarchs are handed all the power with none of the work. That's the difference, the process to which they came to power.

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

You're saying Stalin and Hitler were not elected to office and redirected responsibilities to their offices to obtain power? You are a silly c*nt.

Nope. I was talking about you're second and third statements.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

Did not mention Hitler, said Stalin and Franco. Franco certainly did not come to power through elections. Spanish Civil War came about after his "side" lost an election.

But why am I using examples of dictators from last century? What about North Korea? Rightist bastards, those guys.

Modifié par CrustyBot, 12 juin 2012 - 04:11 .

[android654]

DarkDragon777 wrote...

android654 wrote...

DarkDragon777 wrote...

android654 wrote...

Execpt both of those men were elected and reassigned power to their offices to be dictators. That's what all dictators do. Monarchs are handed all the power with none of the work. That's the difference, the process to which they came to power.

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

You're saying Stalin and Hitler were not elected to office and redirected responsibilities to their offices to obtain power? You are a silly c*nt.

Nope. I was talking about you're second and third statements.

People do not elect kings. Kings are appointed. Elections are democratic, meaning left. Appointments are conservative, meaning right. Elected officals are held to oversight, public scrutiny and the inconvenience of re-elections. Kings are not. Do you see the difference?

Modifié par android654, 12 juin 2012 - 04:11 .

[Blacklash93]

Sure I would. Its called the Average American Politician.

Flips flops so much from one end to the other not even they know what platform they stand on.

There are plenty of self-professed moderates in the political field. Yet they always bend over for the stances on the far sides of the spectrum, even if gradually. They're complete tools, in other words.

Not when you're talking about a postion on a political spectrum and not the idea of "moderation".

That's good becuase political positions are what I've been talking about this entire time.

[RedArmyShogun]

android654 wrote...


People do not elect kings. Kings are appointed. Elections are democratic, meaning left. Appointments are conservative, meaning right. Elected officals are held to oversight, public scrutiny and the inconvenience of re-elections. Kings are not. Do you see the difference?

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So many holes and contridictions in this its not even funny.

For one Technically Stalin also wasn't ellected. He gained the posting of Head of the Communist Party, via some good photoshop and the NKVD. He did not win ellections for the Primier spot twice out of 8 total however. But he had the real power in the country for life.

Two From Bush To Obama the Czars are not ellected yet are appointed with no oversite short of the president, which blocks the congress who watches the president. So right there we go left, right, left.  Meanwhile SCOTUS is appointed lasts for life or retirement, and answers to no one. While the appointment must be approved. So both a left and a right.

Franco who according to you was ellected which is left...while he was right...then turned right, then back left.

Modifié par Confess-A-Bear, 12 juin 2012 - 04:17 .

[Chromie]

What the hell happened to this thread? o.0

Modifié par Skelter192, 12 juin 2012 - 04:16 .

[Volus Warlord]

Skelter192 wrote...

What the hell happened to this thread? o.0

Android. 

[DarkDragon777]

People do not elect kings.
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Not necessarily
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Kings are appointed.
Not all the time
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Elections are democratic, meaning left.

Yes.
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Appointments are conservative

No
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meaning right.
No
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Elected officals are held to oversight, public scrutiny and the inconvenience of re-elections. Kings are not. Do you see the difference?


No, because last time I checked I though you were talking about dictators, not elected officials. Also, dictators can be monarchs.
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Also, I think you have a strange habit of classifying simple actions as being right or left leaning. You need to stop that.

Modifié par DarkDragon777, 12 juin 2012 - 04:22 .

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

About Monarchy, the respectable matter everyone forgets is that it's because of those individuals, 'the kings' who leaded their country through history, and the great country that you're living in (in Europe or Asia) is the legacy of generations of kings who have expanded your country and preserved it to the current shape.
We can assume that without some strong dynasty of kings, France would be part of Spain, Italy, Germany and England. Another example, Russia .. If it hadn't defeated the Mongols and similar people and the Polish, there was no big Russia; There was a huge Poland east of Europe and one or some Tataristan in east of St. Petersburg or Moskov.

@Blacklash93
This is not mathematics. There is no contradiction in including both pure Aristotelians and Machiavellians as middle/center. Flexibility is a clever deed in politics.

[HulkSmashU]

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[DarkDragon777]

Blacklash93 wrote...



That's good becuase political positions are what I've been talking about this entire time.

Then I thank you for admitting that you're wrong.

[GodWood]

jreezy wrote...
I wish I remembered where the thread was with a lot of peoples' results from that thing.

I found the chart

http://www.political...62&newsoc=-0.10

Modifié par GodWood, 12 juin 2012 - 04:22 .

[Volus Warlord]

If we were all religious fundamentalists we would not have this problem.

[RedArmyShogun]

Exactly. Volus, I for one can get behind carrying an AK with me and screaming ALLAHU ACKBAR! on a daily bases.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

Volus Warlord wrote...

If we were all religious fundamentalists we would not have this problem.

Of the same religion?

[HulkSmashU]

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[android654]

Confess-A-Bear wrote...

android654 wrote...


People do not elect kings. Kings are appointed. Elections are democratic, meaning left. Appointments are conservative, meaning right. Elected officals are held to oversight, public scrutiny and the inconvenience of re-elections. Kings are not. Do you see the difference?

...

So many holes and contridictions in this its not even funny.

For one Technically Stalin also wasn't ellected. He gained the posting of Head of the Communist Party, via some good photoshop and the NKVD. He did not win ellections for the Primier spot twice out of 8 total however. But he had the real power in the country for life.

Two From Bush To Obama the Czars are not ellected yet are appointed with no oversite short of the president, which blocks the congress who watches the president. So right there we go left, right, left.  Meanwhile SCOTUS is appointed lasts for life or retirement, and answers to no one. While the appointment must be approved. So both a left and a right.

Franco who according to you was ellected which is left...while he was right...then turned right, then back left.

I already stated that both Hitler and Stalin were elected and form the inside re-wrote their positions to become dictators. Both were appointed after becoming political super stars, and their new positions gave them a platform to redirect power. I said all of that already.

The entire purpose of the Supreme Court is to preserve the constitution as it applies to new laws. That is the very idea of conservatism, so it is right. I also already stated that no person or political body is 100% in any area of the political spectrum. You're just reiterating everything I said all over again. Try and keep up.