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[Sam -stone- serious]

VanDraegon wrote...

Sam -stone- serious wrote...

eisberg77 wrote...

There is already a whole thread about this. To put it shortly, hardly anyone cares about a non important magazine. Most people haven't even heard about this magazine.

Thrust me when i say that Edge is the one and only professional bublication out there. I feel that their review is spot on (i have expressed what i think of the game) and the only one review that actually does take into consideration the games major flaws.

Because you say so? Riiight.

You believe its me i say so? Grab an Edge issue and start reading and then come back and tell me. Tell me what you see between its pages, tell me what you see in its last pages. Yeah thats right. Something that NO other magazine has or even hopes to have.

If you dont know what it is then please kindly dont comment about it at all.

[Sam -stone- serious]

Skellimancer wrote...

They also gave Morrowind 5/10 and Oblivion 8/10

No, they game Moorowind on Xbox 6/10 and Oblivion an 8/10. They also gave Baldurs Gate 2 shadows of amn 9/10, neverwinter nights 1 9/10, Mass effect 7/10 and many other games of course.

[Skellimancer]

Sam -stone- serious wrote...

Skellimancer wrote...

They also gave Morrowind 5/10 and Oblivion 8/10

No, they game Moorowind on Xbox 6/10 and Oblivion an 8/10. They also gave Baldurs Gate 2 shadows of amn 9/10, neverwinter nights 1 9/10, Mass effect 7/10 and many other games of course.

Neverwinter Nights and Baldur's Gate with the same score. i laughed.

Morrowind with lower score than oblivion. i cried.

[Dargar21]

I give this magazine a 3/10

[Skellimancer]

I guess EA forgot to pay them off this time.

How can they complain about the dialog and give huge scores to JRPG's.. i suppose they found Oblivion to have better Dialog? heh.

Modifié par Skellimancer, 12 décembre 2009 - 10:37 .

[bjdbwea]

Sam -stone- serious wrote...

No, they game Moorowind on Xbox 6/10 and Oblivion an 8/10. They also gave Baldurs Gate 2 shadows of amn 9/10, neverwinter nights 1 9/10, Mass effect 7/10 and many other games of course.

Mass Effect < NWN 1? Okay, you can't discredit yourself more than that. I mean, NWN 1 is great (only) because of its later mods, but a review could only rate the OC after all.

[Sam -stone- serious]

Seifz wrote...

That says nothing about the quality of their reviews.

Hey, game companies come to my school all the time looking for new employees.  Does that mean that I'm qualified to give "professional and accurate" reviews with "zero fanboyism and favoritism"?

By the way, they're scored Wii Baseball higher than DA:O.  Silly.

Their review quality is second to non. What you fail to see is that they DO  take into account the games many flaws whereas you chose to ignore them.

There are games out there that are "more than the sum of their parts" but the opposite is also quite true. Dragon age is -objectively- one such obscurity. It -should- have been a completely mind blowing game but it failed. Instead it is only a semi-well done game with far too many flaws to be considered "good". The fact that YOU and MANY  others enjoyed has little to do with the truth. 

I have enjoyed myself with far too many completely "pants" games (objectively) and didnt even care about the 40% - 50% - 60% they got from the reviews. However i DID  see the problems, but chose to ignore them completely because i was having a great time regardless. 

[DKJaigen]

double

Modifié par DKJaigen, 12 décembre 2009 - 10:40 .

[DKJaigen]

apparently this is more case of taste then a real review. he doesn't like the dialogue lol! i would hard pressed to find a rpg that has such a high quality dialogue. only planescape torment is better in dialogue then doa.



Sam -stone- serious



To be honest i just cant take edge seriously with this review and i watched other reviews of theirs before to conclude then these guys can be incredibly biased

[VanDraegon]

Sam -stone- serious wrote...
You believe its me i say so? Grab an Edge issue and start reading and then come back and tell me. Tell me what you see between its pages, tell me what you see in its last pages. Yeah thats right. Something that NO other magazine has or even hopes to have.

If you dont know what it is then please kindly dont comment about it at all.

You are holding yourself up as some sort of authority on the matter and we are just supposed to take your word for it? I dont think so.  Just because you say so inst enough proof of the matter.

Leading publications, even international ones, are well known in their field. Edge isnt.  I cant just go grab an issue because frankly, for such a leading  authoratative voice, they are sure hard to find a copy of.  From a look at their website they are a publication that mainly focuses on console games and other general gaming news. That doesnt mean their reviewers are without bias or have an axe to grind.

I am not saying DA:O is without fault, that is silly. It does, nothing game breaking though. As for the things that DA excells at, like voice acting, dialog and writing, well it is obvios they did have an axe to grind.


When their review represents 5% of the view, as is roughly the case coinsidering all other reviews of DA:O, it is obvious they got one wrong.

So, there is my comment, just as vaild and informed as yours.

Modifié par VanDraegon, 12 décembre 2009 - 10:54 .

[kevinwastaken]

I like the other thread better. It wasn't so poorly typed.

[Repton15]

I'm getting the distinct impression that Edge have somehow managed to review the game in such a clinical and detached manner; they've completely forgotten to invest their own emotional involvement in the unfolding storyline. And as we all know, it's player immersion that can often be a deciding factor in game review scores. Which could explain it.



Not that I agree, mind.....

[Skellimancer]

Repton15 wrote...

I'm getting the distinct impression that Edge have somehow managed to review the game in such a clinical and detached manner; they've completely forgotten to invest their own emotional involvement in the unfolding storyline. And as we all know, it's player immersion that can often be a deciding factor in game review scores. Which could explain it.

Not that I agree, mind.....

If the main character was a spikey haired teenager then they would be in love with the game.

Not forgetting random battle grinding.

[Tempus312]

People need to realize that these reviews are simply opinions of the publication's staff and are subject to all the normal human biases. There isn't a special formula that anyone can use to say 'X game is good, Y game is mediocre' regardless of how "objective" a publication seems to be. I personally loved DAO and can't wait to see where the universe goes in the future so thus it was a $50 well spent.

[Repton15]

Skellimancer wrote...

If the main character was a spikey haired teenager then they would be in love with the game.

Not forgetting random battle grinding.

Lol... it scares me to say it, but I think you're probably bang on the button with that!

[Sam -stone- serious]

VanDraegon wrote...

Sam -stone- serious wrote...
You believe its me i say so? Grab an Edge issue and start reading and then come back and tell me. Tell me what you see between its pages, tell me what you see in its last pages. Yeah thats right. Something that NO other magazine has or even hopes to have.

If you dont know what it is then please kindly dont comment about it at all.

You are holding yourself up as some sort of authority on the matter and we are just supposed to take your word for it? I dont think so.  Just because you say so inst enough proof of the matter.

Leading publications, even international ones, are well known in their field. Edge isnt.  I cant just go grab an issue because frankly, for such a leading  authoratative voice, they are sure hard to find a copy of. I am not saying DA:O is without fault, that is silly.

From a look at their website they are a publication that mainly focuses on console games and other general gaming news. That doesnt mean their reviewers are without bias or have an axe to grind.

When their review represents 5% of the view, as is roughly the case coinsidering all other reviews of DA:O, it is obvious they got one wrong.

So, there is my comment, just as vaild and informed as yours.

Dont take my word for it then. Make your own research and see for yourself that Edge IS  the one and only true professional magazine out there. Its the only magazine that companies themselves take as a benchmark to make their games. Are they always right?  Of course not. They too are people after all but you will not find a better and more informed and unbiased games publication elsewhere.

Their review system is a bit weird for those that have never read the magazine but its there. Please dont comment again if you dont know about the magazine. As i said before there is a -reason- why its -only- professional bublication out there. Their reviews may seem harsh but ultimately they are very close to the truth.

IT  DOES  NOT  MATTER  WHAT  THEY  SAY THOUGH  IF  YOU  ENJOY  YOURSELF  WITH  WHATEVER  GAME  YOU  GRAB  AND  PLAY  HOWEVER.

[Thanatos45]

They should really have done the PC version, that is the platform this game was primarily developed for and is the best version by a fair margin.

[Sam -stone- serious]

Skellimancer wrote...

If the main character was a spikey haired teenager then they would be in love with the game.

Not forgetting random battle grinding.

You are right, thats why Final Fantasy 10 got a 6/10 (and not only, i am just getting a big seller here) and almost all other western RPGs got 7+ with quite many of them getting a 9/10.

[VanDraegon]

Sam -stone- serious wrote...

Dont take my word for it then. Make your own research and see for yourself that Edge IS  the one and only true professional magazine out there. Its the only magazine that companies themselves take as a benchmark to make their games. Are they always right?  Of course not. They too are people after all but you will not find a better and more informed and unbiased games publication elsewhere.

Their review system is a bit weird for those that have never read the magazine but its there. Please dont comment again if you dont know about the magazine. As i said before there is a -reason- why its -only- professional bublication out there. Their reviews may seem harsh but ultimately they are very close to the truth.

IT  DOES  NOT  MATTER  WHAT  THEY  SAY THOUGH  IF  YOU  ENJOY  YOURSELF  WITH  WHATEVER  GAME  YOU  GRAB  AND  PLAY  HOWEVER.

If what you say is as obvious as you are making it seem, you shouldnt have any trouble backing up that claim with some references.

[Derengard]

The "only professional bublication", they should use that as their tagline.

[Sam -stone- serious]

VanDraegon wrote...

If what you say is as obvious as you are making it seem, you shouldnt have any trouble backing up that claim with some references.

I dont know what to tell you. The only obvious thing for you to do is to research and buy at least one issue. What exactly do you want me to say?

[RoninOmega]

LunSei Sleidee wrote...

They're only trying to get attention. And apparently they succeeded.

ah so they have but it was done poorly and they also concurrently lost credibility.



In my opinion, edge sucks and its a dying reviewer, never made any good reviews and only gave good scores to games like halo, cod, and the more mainstream games(even if they did suck)


edge will die soon, along with that review(plus you have to pay or do extra stuff to actually make an opinion about it there?  Wtf is wrong with them?)

[Aratham Darksight]

Sam, contrary to what you seem to think, repeating the same assertions over and over while refusing to back up or qualify them is not actually persuasive.

[Delthayre]

So, Sammy, how long have you been on their payroll?

All right, that was a scurrilous, baseless allegation, so I apologize for it, but it makes the point that your intensity of commitment to them looks rather absurd and excessive.

Wait, maybe you're sleeping with the editor(s?). That might explain it to.

Well, that's even more scurrilous and baseless, and I again apologize for it, but it even better makes the point that you really seem to have an overdeveloped sense of devotion to that magazine. That you so wildly and highly sing their praises makes you seem like just the sort of, "fanby," that one would expect you to detest.

Modifié par Delthayre, 12 décembre 2009 - 11:04 .

[Sam -stone- serious]

Derengard wrote...

The "only professional bublication", they should use that as their tagline.

Ironically its the games companies themselves that call them as such.