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[Edelwolf]

I for one can actually see where Edge is coming from.

RP gamers will accept alot of crap and still enjoy the games of their favourite genre. Edge is talking to their wider audience. Fans of the genre know there haven't been many RPG releases in the past few years and take what little is offered.

Take voice-acting for example. To an Edge reader the NPCs just talk funny. In a ww2 or modern shooter the voice-acters can basicly talk their few lines like they would in everyday life, while the fantasy actors are forced to do weird accents. We'll just go along with it.

This is not a game for everyone.

[Sam -stone- serious]

You guys leave me in shock and awe. Here is what i read thus far.



OMG THEY GAVE DAO A 5??? A 5?????????? THIS GAME DESERVES A 10, NO 11!!! AMG!



Then you go around commenting about CODMW2.



WHAT THE HELL THIS GAME GOT A 9, ITS 6 HOURS LONG AT BEST.



Who told you that a game has to be a million hours in order to be good? Did you read the review? Its focused 1/3 in the single player campaign and the rest is focused on the multiplayer which is the juice of life for any COD game and the only reason it receives such high marks from every damn site and publication i know.



Then i read posts like this.



"Same here. I never got any game breaking bugs for Bloodlines and even though there were a few weird happenings in my game, it didn't bother me in the slightest."



I want to put emphasis on "it didn't bother me in the slightest". Do you now see the -difference- between a reviewer and you? What happens if the player DOES get bothered by such problems? I sure did and i did get bothered with DAOs broken combat and non existent exploration as well as its bad voice acting for non and semi-non important characters. Personally i find only Arl Howe, Loghain and Alistair good and believable voice actors. The rest i find them "meh". In short i agree with the review because the problems are numbered and serious enough that its absolutely impossible for me to ignore.



P.S. And LOL at the people who actually believed that PS:T got a 3 from Edge. Ironic that you will not believe nothing but only the negative parts concerning the magazine. Please continue to post extracts and quotes taken out of context so that you can continue speaking about things you have no idea about.

[GHL_Soul_Reaver]

Well maybe it is not as known in the US the magazine, but the magazine is in stores in europe... I have to somewhat agree to what the magazine say in some of the ways it is put down, but far from all, as it for me seem like it is a to factory made game in many ways, and yet the time it took to make it merely to me personally seems like it has been rushed out without thinking about all the finesse, fine tuning and extra details in which would grant lesser hate from magazine revievers in general.



I wonder why it is not listed on gamespy with there award system?!? it is not like a place like that would take stuff for granted, if there is the same issues in MA2 it would probably get a poor review as well as stepping through the same mill as DAO currently is.



Yet though I still play the game... but it has lost some spirit and it feels like playing a poor seequal now after having completed the game this many times as it is.

[Fraevar]

Lucy_Glitter wrote...

5 hours!? Yeesh! That sucks! Glad I didn't get it in the end.

Indeed. I thought it would last at least the 8 of the original, but maybe it was because I played that on 360 and the sequel on a PC? Mouse and keyboard might've made things easier for me, but still...

I'm done with that series, honest truth. I simply can't justify using my hardearned cash on something that's over before you basically get into it.

[vicendor]

Who cares about a non American magazine that nobody besides uber nerds or Europe people have heard about?

[Must have name]

vicendor wrote...

Who cares about a non American magazine that nobody besides uber nerds or Europe people have heard about?

Who cares about an American magazine that nobody besides uber nerds or Americans have heard about? America isn't the centre of the world you know.

Review is heavily flawed by focusing solely on a story they dislike and reviewing the console version when there's a PC version.

[GHL_Soul_Reaver]

vicendor wrote...

Who cares about a non American magazine that nobody besides uber nerds or Europe people have heard about?

Maybe because that usually Euro's are much much more engaged in RPGs as of general, it is very bad PR to get from a magazine when one of the main targets for selling this game is in the EU.

Just answering the question as it is, never read the magazine in my life before though, but seen it on display here and there.

Denying facts that this game could had been so much more is purely up to the customer itself, I for once feel like I am getting sold the same thing again... could just as well play guildwars as I could play DAO, currently playing DAO as it is though, but been complaining on the site here and there about game issues as well as requesting for stuff.

[GHL_Soul_Reaver]

Ok took my time to just google reviews... and I have to say that they are mixed... some goes 5 out of 10 where others go 9 out of 10 or whatever it is an extremely mixed idea about this game here and there.



On average it seem like it scores less on consoles than on PC, some of the negativity about the game in different actual player communities is the lack of multiplayer posibilities.. as I see it.. I don't know why this many of the places grant high score for graphics... it is simply outdated to be honest, they could had done so much better on that front instead of wowifying



Gameplay wise it is just liek Guildwars though much more kick to it because of the many options... but in general when it comes down to the very basics it is merely just hack and slash... the dialogs gets boring fast... and the game in many ways seem way to linear... oooh shiny... game that takes people 200 hours to complete others do in 30 to 75 hours.

[Chragen]

Edge has always been really weird when it comes to their reviews. I personally dislike scores in general, but Edge is infamous for having really biased scores at times. Generally if it's not a shooter/open world game without cut scenes they will give it a bad score without real justification.

This is why I preferred the old 1up.com reviews they had on the 1up show because it was a discussion and you got to hear both sides of the story, and it was with 3 different reviewers. That alone is very important since what one person love another person might hate.

[Sam -stone- serious]

vicendor wrote...

Who cares about a non American magazine that nobody besides uber nerds or Europe people have heard about?

Please bark more. It amuses us greatly.

[Sam -stone- serious]

GHL_Soul_Reaver wrote...

vicendor wrote...

Who cares about a non American magazine that nobody besides uber nerds or Europe people have heard about?

Maybe because that usually Euro's are much much more engaged in RPGs as of general, it is very bad PR to get from a magazine when one of the main targets for selling this game is in the EU.

Just answering the question as it is, never read the magazine in my life before though, but seen it on display here and there.

Denying facts that this game could had been so much more is purely up to the customer itself, I for once feel like I am getting sold the same thing again... could just as well play guildwars as I could play DAO, currently playing DAO as it is though, but been complaining on the site here and there about game issues as well as requesting for stuff.

So true and your last lines could not be truer. It does not matter what a magazine or a review or whatever says. Do you enjoy yourself?  Yes? Thats what matters. What the hell do you care if one reviewer says its mediocre and the other one who says thats its the best of all time?  Just play the game and form your own opinion.

[Skellimancer]

Are you still defending that magazine? good grief.

[GHL_Soul_Reaver]

Skellimancer wrote...

Are you still defending that magazine? good grief.

If you are refereing to me, then I would suggest that you open up your eyes and read what I wrote down

[Skellimancer]

GHL_Soul_Reaver wrote...

Skellimancer wrote...

Are you still defending that magazine? good grief.

If you are refereing to me, then I would suggest that you open up your eyes and read what I wrote down

I have read Edge before, i have copies right here. Its not a magazine i would trust for reviews.

Mean Machines>Total>Super Play> Edge. ahhh memories.

[orpheus333]

Metacritic Scores

2. PC Games: Dragon Age: Origins (2009) 91
Electronic Arts

3. Playstation 3: Dragon Age: Origins (2009) 87
Electronic Arts

4. Xbox 360: Dragon Age: Origins (2009) 86
Electronic Arts

Because in this day and age a single critic panning a work of entertainment means about as much as the paper it gets printed on (even if it is shiny high quality paper like Edge UKs). It doesn't really matter either way...i think it is a quality product and i will continue to recommend it to friends.

I think it is a rediculous assessment to assume the people that play RPGs as a prefered genre gloss over their games inadaquacies because of some stupid notion that there is a drought. As for Edge UK i haven't bought a copy in a while because they always leave me with the impression that they are a consumer magazine playing at being trade press.

Otherwise not having the review i can't comment but from the OP i would probably disagree with the majority of it. I have had a really good time with dragon age and it is well worth the £30 I spent on it. Personally the only flaws i have consistantly noticed are minor inventory bugs (my archer was shooting arrows with a dagger for a few hours) some inconsistancies within how to complete quests etc. Otherwise as a complete product DA is very well polished from its character design to the UI, Music and Audio.

Modifié par andyr1986, 13 décembre 2009 - 01:10 .

[Yard Waste]

Hey Sam-quick question-do you even have the game? I see you don't have the DA:O 'D' symbol under your avatar which suggests that you haven't registered your copy here or you don't own a copy.

[Sam -stone- serious]

Yard Waste wrote...

Hey Sam-quick question-do you even have the game? I see you don't have the DA:O 'D' symbol under your avatar which suggests that you haven't registered your copy here or you don't own a copy.

I do on PS3. My brother on PC. I got access to both versions. I dont understand what is that have to do with it?

[FlintlockJazz]

Sam -stone- serious wrote...

Yard Waste wrote...

Hey Sam-quick question-do you even have the game? I see you don't have the DA:O 'D' symbol under your avatar which suggests that you haven't registered your copy here or you don't own a copy.

I do on PS3. My brother on PC. I got access to both versions. I dont understand what is that have to do with it?

Because it could mean that you don't actually have the game, and with all your posting in here it does look suspicious, like you could be some Edge employee trying to shill the magazine.  Not saying that you are, but without a game registered some people may think that.

[mathewgurney]

I think the reviews 5/10 score is fair enough considering they rated the xbox360 version, it is an awful port. Perhaps if Edge had given it that score on PC then they'd be wrong but for the lazy, bug-ridden, half-finished, dumbed down, feature deleted xbox version which incidentally is still lacking any kind of patch to fix it, Bioware deserves that score.
Just for the record, i don't buy/work for/sleep with Edge, and in fact dont read game mags in general for the same reason i don't subscribe to any major religion or listen to politicians, i'd rather decide things for myself. And ive decided for myself that the xbox version of DA:O sucks, so in this case Edge was "right".
I find the level of Bioware fanboy/girl/thing ass-kissery on this site nauseating, the way in which the PC elitist crowd continually berate console users and tell them that thier version is trash compared to the PC version, yet when the console version gets a deservedly bad review suddenly attitudes switch in a decidedly hypocritical two-faced way, the previously unmentionable turd gets all polished up, mounted on a golden chariot and defended by its previous venomous detractors waving swords of flaming e-peen like it was the holy grail of gaming.
Can't have it both ways people.

Modifié par mathewgurney, 13 décembre 2009 - 02:50 .

[Sam -stone- serious]

FlintlockJazz wrote...

Sam -stone- serious wrote...

Yard Waste wrote...

Hey Sam-quick question-do you even have the game? I see you don't have the DA:O 'D' symbol under your avatar which suggests that you haven't registered your copy here or you don't own a copy.

I do on PS3. My brother on PC. I got access to both versions. I dont understand what is that have to do with it?

Because it could mean that you don't actually have the game, and with all your posting in here it does look suspicious, like you could be some Edge employee trying to shill the magazine.  Not saying that you are, but without a game registered some people may think that.

Oh God, yeah the consiracy theories the fanbois can come up with when people say their own opinions. You know i never bashed any of you who worship the game yet you (not you personaly) come around and bash me because i find the game exactly like Edge says and then some. Did i try to change your opinion? No, i am merely voicing mine. Why do you try to change my opinion of the game? I think that after 77 hours and the rolling of the credits i know what the hell I  feel for the game.

[Skellimancer]

So Edge think that Dragon Quest 8 on PS2 is vastly superior to Dragon Age.









DA:O 5/10

DQ8 9/10

[addiction21]

I like puff puffs

[Blank Syndrome]

Skellimancer wrote...

So Edge think that Dragon Quest 8 on PS2 is vastly superior to Dragon Age.

DA:O 5/10
DQ8 9/10

Yes, they apparently think one game that does absolutely nothing with the genre is better than another game that does absolutely nothing with the genre.

I digress, though. In spite of that, it is quite a rift; Dragon Quest 8 is what it is, as is Dragon Age, and they're both incredibly proficient in those respective capacities.

EDIT: Wait, this is the SAME BLOODY REVIEW we're talking about here? Good lord, people. We've done this to death.

Modifié par Blank Syndrome, 13 décembre 2009 - 02:53 .

[Skellimancer]

Blank Syndrome wrote...

Skellimancer wrote...

So Edge think that Dragon Quest 8 on PS2 is vastly superior to Dragon Age.

DA:O 5/10
DQ8 9/10

Yes, they apparently think one game that does absolutely nothing with the genre is better than another game that does absolutely nothing with the genre.

I digress, though. In spite of that, it is quite a rift; Dragon Quest 8 is what it is, as is Dragon Age, and they're both incredibly proficient in those respective capacities.

EDIT: Wait, this is the SAME BLOODY REVIEW we're talking about here? Good lord, people. We've done this to death.

Does sound like they were paid by squeenix for the review.

[Jaucinet]

IMO, Edge is a very respectable magazine. I felt a little pang when I saw the score, I'm loving DAO, but that feeling was obviously irrational.

I still (very) occasionally buy Edge, but I'm no longer interested in it's scores so much. When I used to buy it regularly, I stopped seeing it as review gospel when I noticed how often games could be slated for 'lack of innovation' and then over the page a new 2d schmup could be praised to heaven for breaking new ground.

In short, I stopped feeling that they were even handed and unbiased.

Modifié par Jaucinet, 13 décembre 2009 - 03:01 .