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[Unschuld]

xsdob wrote...

What about the fact that she isn't finished her recording sessions yet, has more planned for the future, and may be doing more content than she knows of. Cause it sounds like she's just getting this session by session and doesn't have the full content to see.

Oh wait, this is the BSN, what I meant to say is gloom, doom, things go boom, everybody dies.

Careful, you can't post anything here that could be taken in a positive light. Otherwise you will be forever branded as an eternal optimist.

[Taboo]

I wasn't talking about Miss Strahovski. At all. She's filming the seventh season of Dexter right now, much to my revulsion and disgust.

She would be expensive, but not as expensive as Martin Sheen. I haven't looked at her resume and don't care to either, but only because the issue is with the character, not the person behind it. I don't need Miranda to talk, I just want her to be there.

Any connection I have to Miss Strahovski is through a character in a video game. I don't want anything further. **** gets weird when people start doing that.

The EC is a compromise. When people get the oft rumored LI reunion, they'll calm down, as they always do. Almost ten years in film has taught me that people are suckers for happy, and will forgive faults if they are pleased.

[Unschuld]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...


She also isn't aware of the context of the situation. That's important.

With how they read lines in the booth, I'm not at all surprised that they don't have any clue what the hell is going on in the big picture. All of those times where I thought a character's tone of voice was "off" in their response to another character, it makes more sense now.

Imagine that. She has no idea what she's reading. That's very important you see, as she sees it as simple, when it is very, very important. It's for the EC.

Shocking, but it's hard to stress a point on the internet...

There's a Mark Meer interview video floating out there, I think from around the ME2 timeframe. He's reading lines off a teleprompter that basically have an emotion blurb in front of them. I would feel totally disconnected and lost in that situation without being able to see the full context, but his performance in the vid is impressive.

Modifié par Unschuld, 13 juin 2012 - 04:58 .

[Blacklash93]

Taboo-XX wrote...

I wasn't talking about Miss Strahovski.

Ah, sorry for the mistake.

She's filming the seventh season of Dexter right now, much to my revulsion and disgust.

I liked Dexter, but once it got to the fourth season I lost interest and found it increasingly jarring how a guy like him can drag a story for so long.

I don't need Miranda to talk, I just want her to be there.

I wish she'd get VA. Ideally all characters involved in EC would.

Any connection I have to Miss Strahovski is through a character in a video game. I don't want anything further. **** gets weird when people start doing that.

The Yvonne avatars I see occassionally here disturb me.

[Unschuld]

Blacklash93 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Any connection I have to Miss Strahovski is through a character in a video game. I don't want anything further. **** gets weird when people start doing that.

 

The Yvonne avatars I see occassionally here disturb me.

Ash Sroka seems to be one of the smarter ones by not having a twitter account etc. Imagine the creeps she'd get following her around...

[Taboo]

That's my point. As much as I like Miranda as a character, I have no connection to Miss Strahovski. I see not reason for an attachment to a character to turn into...some of the things I've seen here.

She isn't Miranda.

It would be nice to have her back in, but I have my doubts. That's okay though, I'm willing to compromise.

[Reth Shepherd]

Taboo-XX wrote...

The EC is a compromise. When people get the oft rumored LI reunion, they'll calm down, as they always do. Almost ten years in film has taught me that people are suckers for happy, and will forgive faults if they are pleased.

Oh, I'm sure some will. Maybe even enough for Bioware to survive as a company. But I think it's going to come out a bit worse than you seem to think. Remember, it's been months. I'll only speak for myself here, but I have Mass Effect endings now. Six of them. One is the unparalled Marauder Shields comic, and five are my own head-canons. While I'll wait until the EC to pass final judgement, if they truly ARE just giving Starkid/RGB more screentime, why on earth would I want EC? Let's see, do I want more of the turd, or do I want the ice cream?

[OMTING52601]

Not having all the content isn't unusual. From my limited understanding, most acting isn't done in chronological order be it VA or physical acting, FWIW.

Still, seeing as all the VA's to now don't include folks like Yvonne or Brandon, that we know of - and I'll concede an NDA could preclude us from knowing - doesn't make me hopeful.

Although, truth in posting, I'm never hopeful. At anytime. For any reason, LOL!

[Taboo]

Not everyone sees the ending as a turd. Some of us see it as a pot with grease on it. A well applied EC sponge will solve some issues and make the pot shine again.

[PsyrenY]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Not everyone sees the ending as a turd. Some of us see it as a pot with grease on it. A well applied EC sponge will solve some issues and make the pot shine again.

Amen.

Also, it was kind of sad that she makes VG voice work sound so... pointless. I mean, the only good thing she could point to were the fans, and even those are slipping.

[Taboo]

Optimystic_X wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Not everyone sees the ending as a turd. Some of us see it as a pot with grease on it. A well applied EC sponge will solve some issues and make the pot shine again.

Amen.

Also, it was kind of sad that she makes VG voice work sound so... pointless. I mean, the only good thing she could point to were the fans, and even those are slipping.

I'm only familiar with Voice Actors were I come from, and that isn't a thankless job. You get paid quite a bit of money. VA's for games are recycled it seems.

[PsyrenY]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Optimystic_X wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Not everyone sees the ending as a turd. Some of us see it as a pot with grease on it. A well applied EC sponge will solve some issues and make the pot shine again.

Amen.

Also, it was kind of sad that she makes VG voice work sound so... pointless. I mean, the only good thing she could point to were the fans, and even those are slipping.

I'm only familiar with Voice Actors were I come from, and that isn't a thankless job. You get paid quite a bit of money. VA's for games are recycled it seems.

I was referring specifically to VG-VAs, and going off what Kim said:

- Would you say you love voice acting for video games more than TV?
- Definitely not. It’s a lot more labour intensive. It’s the most labour intensive, it pays the least.

It just seems a bit depressing that she could make more on some random TV show or cartoon.

Anyway, I'm glad she confirmed they're not changing the endings. I hope she doesn't get in trouble for saying it (and inadvertently kicking the forum hornet's nest), even though she didn't say anything that wasn't already in the FAQ.

[Zuka999]

Well, this game is boned. See you guys on the flipside.

[SimonTheFrog]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Not everyone sees the ending as a turd. Some of us see it as a pot with grease on it. A well applied EC sponge will solve some issues and make the pot shine again.

You don't like narrative coherence?

Unless the way the reapers are being presented in the starchild dialog is significantly changed, the narrative coherence is broken. No glossing over can fix that.

[dorktainian]

Zuka999 wrote...

Well, this game is boned. See you guys on the flipside.

[Helios969]

I guess this spells the end of the Mass Effect universe. RIP, my friend. RIP.

[Unschuld]

OMTING52601 wrote...

Not having all the content isn't unusual. From my limited understanding, most acting isn't done in chronological order be it VA or physical acting, FWIW.

Still, seeing as all the VA's to now don't include folks like Yvonne or Brandon, that we know of - and I'll concede an NDA could preclude us from knowing - doesn't make me hopeful.

Although, truth in posting, I'm never hopeful. At anytime. For any reason, LOL!

Maybe we don't know about Yvonne, but if that "Brandon" you refer to is Brandon Keener, he's already stated on Facebook at least that he's done additional voicework, which he can't talk about.

[shodiswe]

Also Ashley wasn't there when shepard made the choices or talked to the catalyst. And she hasn't played the game so i'm not sure how much she knows about the story or endings.

Nothing new really..

[shodiswe]

If the catalyst voice actor said he had a lot of new dialogue then it would affect the ending im guessing, or the storytelling anyway.

[lerpumpkinzero]

I don't think her interview really sheds light on anything about the EC, simply because she seems to know so little about what's going on, as others have pointed out. For example, people have pointed out that she is ignorant as to why the fanbase is so upset about the ending. This could indicate that this means Bioware is also ignorant, however, it could also be a symptom of her not being a gamer and not playing the game. It's very likely that she might not get that the lack of variation makes all the different choices in the game irrelevant.

Also, I don't know what people are looking at to determine whether or not a voice actor is involved in the EC, but just because it isn't announced somewhere (interview, twitter, facebook), doesn't mean it isn't happening.

Personal thoughts on the ending and appeasing people (suckers) with happiness, I would be disappointed if the EC went that route, and did some sort of reuniting thing with Shepard and the LI. That's what fan fiction is for... Still, from the EC FAQ, it seems like Shepard will still die (Which I'm just fine with).

[luzburg]

i think that bioware`s pr divition has their hands in this. artistic integrity is the lamest exuse ever
Video games no matter the genere IS AND WILL EVER BE a entertaniment servise requiered to have a scertian level of quality

[jsadalia]

xsdob wrote...

What about the fact that she isn't finished her recording sessions yet, has more planned for the future, and may be doing more content than she knows of. Cause it sounds like she's just getting this session by session and doesn't have the full content to see.

Oh wait, this is the BSN, what I meant to say is gloom, doom, things go boom, everybody dies.

True, but I doubt she deduced "Bioware’s not changing the ending, but it’s explaining and justifying it more" from interpeting her own lines.  Seems a lot more likely that's what BioWare told her.  However much BioWare may have misled fans about content in the past, I find it hard to believe they'd make an effort to deceive their voice talent during recording.

[NedPepper]

Sublyminal wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Sublyminal wrote...


I don't know which is worse, the fact that you tried to use medea to compare us "people the got our feelings hurt" or you saying that we are somehow butthurt over the fact the game sucks. You want to know why people are pissed?

Try the fact that casey and mac lied to us all less than a week before the release, no ABC endings we promise, try the fact that they added a day 1 dlc that should have been in the game to begin with, try paying 80 for a game that has one of the ****tiest endings in videogame history only to have Bioware come in and basically say "oh, you're all retarded, let us clarify this for you"

And yet you don't expect people to be pissed off by this? Sorry dude but this goes a lot deeper than feelings being hurt by a game.

Oh, I dunno. Wasn't Medea "lied" to and betrayed by Giason? 

Us? Who's this "us"? The game "sucks"? Yeah, ok.

I don't give a damn about PR promises. Never have, they are usually white or outright lies one way or another.

I got the DLC for free.

Bioware never said that an the opinion on the ending is just that.

And that's dudette to you. Deeper? Oh yes, I am basically crying my eyes out. Seriously, enough with the bloody melodrama!

Medea is lied to at least once per tyler perry film, you can't compare a film to a game. Tyle has never come out and said "this is your story, your choices matter" so you're comparing apples and oranges when throwing out medea against anti enders.

Again, you obviously don't have no where near the time half of us have invested in this game, doing a perfect playthrough of 1 and 2 only to see that nothing promised to us actually has any affect on 3. You might like being lied to dudette that doesn't mean the rest of us do.

Or maybe its like I said you're a cod kiddy and didn't really care much about the series to begin with, like most other cod kiddies. If that's the case it explains why you don't care about how the series ends.

Oh, dear God.  You're of thinking of MADEA, the crappy old lady from Tyler Perry's absymal films.. Medea is a Greek myth of a woman cheated on and abanonded by her husband, Jason, (of Argonauts fame) and she proceeds to set his mistress on fire and kill her children born from Jason.

[The Angry One]

shodiswe wrote...

If the catalyst voice actor said he had a lot of new dialogue then it would affect the ending im guessing, or the storytelling anyway.

Surely she'd have to know about being stranded on Gilligan's Planet and being forced into the role of continual breeder to sustain an inbred colony so 10,000 years later a weird old man can talk creepily to a child if they're going to do some post-game voiceovers.

Yeah I'm sorry I just really really hate that whole thing.

Unschuld wrote...

xsdob wrote...

What about
the fact that she isn't finished her recording sessions yet, has more
planned for the future, and may be doing more content than she knows of.
Cause it sounds like she's just getting this session by session and
doesn't have the full content to see.

Oh wait, this is the BSN, what I meant to say is gloom, doom, things go boom, everybody dies.

Careful,
you can't post anything here that could be taken in a positive light.
Otherwise you will be forever branded as an eternal optimist.

Fine, everybody's stranded. THAT'S SO MUCH BETTER YAY.

Modifié par The Angry One, 13 juin 2012 - 04:02 .

[clarkusdarkus]

I think they sold enough copies of ME3 to cover the costs of the EC to knock it out of the park, thing is have they the passion to do so after being forced to make the EC. Wouldnt be surprised tho if all we get is scenes similar to the marines cheering when the reapers leave/destroyed. Kinda like asari/turians cheering etc.