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[Statulos]

I loved this setting for several reasons; but the main one is that it departs from traditional epic fantasy settings (Forgotten Realms and Dragonlance being the general standard)

It is nice because:

-Everything id "low tech": no steampunk incredible devices, no pseudoindustrial societies, no weid mechanisms...

-Not too many fantastic societies: basicaly, there are humans, qunari, dwarfs and elves with variants. No minotuaurs, were-birds, gnolls, orcs and so on. The quantity of humanoid creatures is compared to other settings. Even in all this cases, all those societies are very "real world" in terms of politics and economy.

-Magic is not the ultimate and invencible source of power: magic is there, it can art amazing things but magic itself is not capable on doing overtly weird stuff. Even in those cases, the requirements to do so are absolutely mastodontic.

-Fantastic flora and fauna is generaly plausible: dragons are the most unreal creature, yet they´re cool. Nugs, predators and other fantastic animals are "credible" and there´s not a massive excess of them.

-Religion is not evident: there is no "ultimate proof" that the divine beings exist. Only faith is a fact, but not the existence of divine beings by itself.

-The bad guys are just plainly destructive: the Darkspawn are a massive force that does not negotiate, take prissioners or surrender. They get there, destroy and walk on to destroy more; no mercy, no conspiracy; just a real threat to everything alive.

-No more "good-o-meter": no more "lawful neutral" or any other sort of moral metter. Actions are actions and its consideration is completely subjetive. People logicaly react to them, but there is no referential and fixed scale to measure it.

I like the "kept simple yet complex" approach to Thedas this game shows. So don´t start making it look like classic epic fantasy, please, developers.

[Avaraen]

I agree, the low-tech, dark, medieval, fantasy setting is great as is, but - was there some hint from the devs they were planning to make any major changes to the world?

[The Angry One]

I'll have to virulently disagree with the first point. Steampunk ftw.

Yes mainly because I want a modern Arcanum. Sue me.

[Taleroth]

It needs steam and kobolds.

[Avaraen]

I'd prefer to see steampunk added to a different game, rather than trying to have an industrial revolution in Thedas.

[andybuiadh]

Indeed, Steampunk is a genre that does interest me. But DA is not the universe for it.

[The Angry One]

Well I think that, after a couple of sequels it would do good to see the progress of Thedas over the next millenium, ending up with tanks vs. darkspawn! And yes this again ties into my Alistair as a tank commander fantasy... *shifty eyes*

[kevinwastaken]

I want to see Mecha-elves fighting for control of Ferelden against Dwarves in steam powered tanks. Oh and robot sex, ftw!

Modifié par kevinwastaken, 12 décembre 2009 - 10:55 .

[Statulos]

The Angry One wrote...

I'll have to virulently disagree with the first point. Steampunk ftw.
Yes mainly because I want a modern Arcanum. Sue me.

I like steampunk, but not in Thedas.

If bioware makes an adaptation of Iron Kingdoms/Warmachine I´ll be the first one getting it.

[Nobody Important]

If they start adding machines and guns I am done. I seriously hate when fantasy games add that crap. If I want that stuff I will buy a scifi game instead.

Modifié par Nobody Important, 12 décembre 2009 - 11:00 .

[Taleroth]

I'm not a big fan of playing the same setting over again, just with different architecture. I'd really like to see the franchise change and explore different things.

Then again, changing architecture might be too much for some people.

Modifié par Taleroth, 12 décembre 2009 - 11:00 .

[The Angry One]

To each their own I suppose, but I'd love to see the logical progression of society and technology over time through each game. I'm somewhat sick of fictional settings that are permanently stuck in the medieval era.

[Statulos]

Different things like what? I´d accept stuff as printing press, heavy ploughs and even a blast furnace (it makes some sense for the dwarfs) but not techno-ships or stuff like that.

[andybuiadh]

DA2 features a floating Val Royeaux hovering over Ferlenden.

[Taleroth]

Statulos wrote...

Different things like what? I´d accept stuff as printing press, heavy ploughs and even a blast furnace (it makes some sense for the dwarfs) but not techno-ships or stuff like that.

That's not even a change at all from an adventurer's perspective.  If it doesn't give them new armor types, traps, or pistols.

Or do you expect them to equip a printing press as a melee weapon?

Modifié par Taleroth, 12 décembre 2009 - 11:08 .

[The Angry One]

I'm not actually talking about far-out steampunk, magic powered airships or dwarven collossus robots or anything like that.

I mean like, over a series of games, progress to the industrial age in a fashion similar to real life only with magic and fantasy in the background (and elven coal mine workers, kekeke).



I use Arcanum as a benchmark for this because none of it's technology was really "stupid", it was trains, factories and prop-driven planes in a fantasy setting. I wouldn't mind seeing that kind of thing eventually. Well ok there were tesla cannons, but how can you not like lightning guns?

[The Angry One]

Taleroth wrote...

Statulos wrote...

Different things like what? I´d accept stuff as printing press, heavy ploughs and even a blast furnace (it makes some sense for the dwarfs) but not techno-ships or stuff like that.

That's not even a change at all from an adventurer's perspective.  If it doesn't give them new armor types, traps, or pistols.

Or do you expect them to equip a printing press as a melee weapon?

Now see, pistols would be a nice addition. The Qunari already have cannons. Let's steal their gunpowder.

...

Or trade it for cake.

Modifié par The Angry One, 12 décembre 2009 - 11:09 .

[Statulos]

Taleroth wrote...

Statulos wrote...

Different things like what? I´d accept stuff as printing press, heavy ploughs and even a blast furnace (it makes some sense for the dwarfs) but not techno-ships or stuff like that.

That's not even a change at all from an adventurer's perspective.  If it doesn't give them new armor types, traps, or pistols.

Or do you expect them to equip a printing press as a melee weapon?

Printing press means less expensive books and more adventures involving them or rate tomes never published before...

But in terms of equipement, it would be a slow evolution from the hand and half style swords to the rapier-style blades.

[The Angry One]

According to the Codex entry on the Summer Sword, Orlesian Chevalier already use estocs, somewhat of a forerunner to rapiers. Would like to have seen one though.

[Statulos]

Maybe Nevarrans fight in with the Spanish Golden Century style (the so called Lady from Toledo and the Lady from Vizcaya) and that would be really appreciated as a way of recognizing my people buuuut, I´d see it as a serious anachronism.

[Taleroth]

Statulos wrote...

Taleroth wrote...

Statulos wrote...

Different things like what? I´d accept stuff as printing press, heavy ploughs and even a blast furnace (it makes some sense for the dwarfs) but not techno-ships or stuff like that.

That's not even a change at all from an adventurer's perspective.  If it doesn't give them new armor types, traps, or pistols.

Or do you expect them to equip a printing press as a melee weapon?

Printing press means less expensive books and more adventures involving them or rate tomes never published before...

I hardly see how prevalence of books helps people slay monsters to save the world.  Except in that claim that knowledge is power ellipses.  Adventurers can certainly read about their monsters, but I was more talking about an actual effect on us the player.

But in terms of equipement, it would be a slow evolution from the hand and half style swords to the rapier-style blades.

Screw "a slow evolution."  Diversity, that's what we need!  Diversity and change!

Stagnation breeds death.

[The Angry One]

Well what you do is print a large array of large, heavy leather bound books with steel reinforcements then chuck them at the darkspawn. They'll never recover.

[DeathWyrmNexus]

The Angry One wrote...

Well I think that, after a couple of sequels it would do good to see the progress of Thedas over the next millenium, ending up with tanks vs. darkspawn! And yes this again ties into my Alistair as a tank commander fantasy... *shifty eyes*

>_>



I concur.

[Statulos]

Taleroth wrote...

Screw "a slow evolution."  Diversity, that's what we need!  Diversity and change!

Stagnation breeds death.

Welcome to the pre-Enlightenment mindset that lasted for centuries.

[LynxAQ]

andybuiadh wrote...

DA2 features a floating Val Royeaux hovering over Ferlenden.

YES!! With a large centre lazor gun that opens up and blows everything to smithereens! Then we have to stop the floating city of doom, Val Royeaux, and discover that Anora has had a spacesh... err flying contraption that crash landed in the royal palace garden, now hidden under fort drakon.

We then fly that flying machine up to the city and whip some alie.. err advanced darkspawn ass with our swords and shields and arrows!! Their lazor guns are no match to our steel, however you soon learn up there that the new advanced arch demon is infact *drum roll* is your father....

*Cracks Knuckles*

I am on a roll now...