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[jakal66]

signed and to add something I believe they make changes based on the expericnce of a few not of all the community...

[Lenimph]

jakal66 wrote...

signed and to add something I believe they make changes based on the expericnce of a few not of all the community...

This 

[Pekkan]

So with the range evolutions, the range decreased from 30 meter to 24 meter, and the damage bonuses were nerfed by 7.5%, did this really destroy the geth engineer?

[Major Durza]

/signed.

This hurts the GE a LOT more than the GI that it was intended to nerf.

[Master Xanthan]

Star fury wrote...

-1. Now GI became less OP, but it's still OP.

I see you forgot about how this affects the Geth Engineer too which was never OP to begin with.

[ZombieGambit]

Yes.

+17.5% weapon damage is not worth 50% shield reduction on the GE.

[Kronner]

Pekkan wrote...

So with the range evolutions, the range decreased from 30 meter to 24 meter, and the damage bonuses were nerfed by 7.5%, did this really destroy the geth engineer?

Nope.

People just see the number and figure that GE sucks now. It is as good as ever. Especially with the new gear.

ZombieGambit wrote...

Yes.

+17.5% weapon damage is not worth 50% shield reduction on the GE.

 

Yea, because Hunter Mode does not give you wall-hack or increased movement speed, right.

Modifié par Kronner, 12 juin 2012 - 10:19 .

[T1l]

Bloody oath. The 'balance' to Hunter Mode was arbitrary and unnecessary.

[Chaoswind]

Pekkan wrote...

So with the range evolutions, the range decreased from 30 meter to 24 meter, and the damage bonuses were nerfed by 7.5%, did this really destroy the geth engineer?

hmmm well I could still do well on silver with mine at level 9, but I don't think my usual build is going to be Gold viable anymore, unlike the Male Quarian

[jpan89]

signed

[toastar]

No.

[Deucetipher]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

/sighed

:lol:jajaja! 

[Star fury]

Master Xanthan wrote...

I see you forgot about how this affects the Geth Engineer too which was never OP to begin with.

1. How many play GE?
2. There are many GE builds without HM.
3. HM isn't that useful for engineer than for infiltrator.

[Master Xanthan]

Star fury wrote...

Master Xanthan wrote...

I see you forgot about how this affects the Geth Engineer too which was never OP to begin with.

1. How many play GE?
2. There are many GE builds without HM.
3. HM isn't that useful for engineer than for infiltrator.

1. I don't work for Bioware, I can't give you an exact number
2. True, but you can builds for the GI without HM
3. It lets you see through walls and gives you higher damage but with the drawback of half shields, seems useful to me.

[toastar]

jakal66 wrote...

signed and to add something I believe they make changes based on the expericnce of a few not of all the community...

I think they have their statistics about class and weapons usage and killing and whatnot.

The abundance of Geth running Krysaes was pretty clear to the naked eye though.  

[Chaoswind]

Kronner wrote...

Pekkan wrote...

So with the range evolutions, the range decreased from 30 meter to 24 meter, and the damage bonuses were nerfed by 7.5%, did this really destroy the geth engineer?

Nope.

People just see the number and figure that GE sucks now. It is as good as ever. Especially with the new gear.

ZombieGambit wrote...

Yes.

+17.5% weapon damage is not worth 50% shield reduction on the GE.

 

Yea, because Hunter Mode does not give you wall-hack or increased movement speed, right.

Wrong, if you are a GE that wants to use Hunter Mode, you NEEDED to have max fitness.

The GI can cloak away and regain shields, so the whole 50% of your shields for Extra Damage and Wall Hack, is not an issue for most (specially snipers).

Now the whole trade of 50% of your shields, for Extra Damage and Wall Hack may not be the best deal for your GE anymore...

[ZombieGambit]

Kronner wrote...

ZombieGambit wrote...

Yes.

+17.5% weapon damage is not worth 50% shield reduction on the GE.

 

Yea, because Hunter Mode does not give you wall-hack or increased movement speed, right.

They nerfed the base vision range too, so if you want to max vision range you can only have +7.5% weapon damage. It's between nerfed damage and nerfed vision range or nerfed damage and the same vision range as pre-nerf.

[Jahoobs]

/signed.

[Drummernate]

I get everything other than the range nerf.....

WTF Bioware... You even said so in the press conference or whatever before you released it that it was meant to let you see "HALF THE MAP"

15m is NOT "Half the map"

Nerf one thing about, or nerf the other, but don't be stupid and nerf everything.

[mpompeo27]

/signed

[Atheosis]

Lee80alabama wrote...

I think it was intended to balance the Geth infiltrator, and thus seems fairly accurate. I understand the rage, but it's better then them nerfing the tactical cloak. So I'm not agreeing with this sorry ladies and gents. If it stops even 7.5% of the crying about infiltrators (since a great many people complained about the geth in particular) then it's totally worth it.

Yes it's better to nerf a balanced power than an overpowered one... 

[Lord Rosario]

Hunter mode was fine. Could have even done with a movement speed buff. It wasn't hunter mode that was the problem, it was Tactical cloak. What needs to be done is have Tactical cloak do what it is -supposed- to, hide you from enemies. A cloak should not make your bullet more than twice as strong.

[GameKillerFT]

Homey C-Dawg wrote...

Were people really that dependent on it?

Its not Dependence, its the Uniqueness of the Geth class, What makes the Geth Hunter Mode Different from Tac Scan on a Male Quarian. Signed

GameKillerFT, Human, Not Programmed

[Zjarcal]

Star fury wrote...

Master Xanthan wrote...

I see you forgot about how this affects the Geth Engineer too which was never OP to begin with.

1. How many play GE?
2. There are many GE builds without HM.
3. HM isn't that useful for engineer than for infiltrator.

1. How is that relevant?
2. True, though again, that is hardly relevant
3. The ability to see through walls is certainly useful for a squishy character, regardless of what class they are (not to mention the extra mobility, which again, complements the squishiness).

Anyway, on topic, I can't agree with the train of thought that this "ruins" the GE or that it's too strong of a nerf (I'm sorry but I just don't feel it's that bad), but seeing how this nerf was really meant for the GI, and how the GE didn't really need any nerfs, I do support a Geth Turret buff to compensate.

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Deucetipher wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

/sighed

jajaja! 

Finally, I was already wondering if I was too subtle again.

 

I noticed right from the start, I just didn't comment. 

Modifié par Zjarcal, 12 juin 2012 - 10:37 .