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[Yuqi]

JesseLee202 wrote...

Yuqi wrote...

Mshep will unfortunately fail to be remembered because there're  just too many characters like him.

This is why your statement fails... Not everyone uses sheploo, in fact, most prefer using a customized shep with different pre-service and service history. Everyone roleplays their shep differently. No other character is like my maleshep. PERIOD.  

Sigh, I know not everyone uses sheploo. But everyone should know by now a good amount of Shepard is pre-defined.

Your shepard is still a male, and a male being in the lead of  the sci-fi genere is still generic.

TS2Aggie wrote...

Yuqi wrote...

Honestly it's not Femshep herself that is good, it's what she represents.Quite frankly Mass-Effect won't be remembered in the gaming community for it's story, or its gameplay, it will be remebered for Femshep.

The amount of female gamers has slowly been growing over the years, but only recently has it become more vocal because the internet has allowed them to come out of hiding. The fact that many companies now have to face, is that female gamers make up a much larger percentage of the market then they used too.

Japanese game companies have already realised this, and the west is yet to catch up.

Mshep will unfortunately fail to be remembered because there're  just too many characters like him. 

It is not because one is better then the other, it's because she has become an icon to the female gaming community. (A consumer base that has been (stupidly) ignored for too long.)

E.A realised there is profit to be made from this market, thus Femshep trailer, statues, ect.

I dispute the fact that EA Games is learning anything. When they didn't advertise her, she was great. When they started focusing on her with ME3, she got the tart treatment (as did Ashley).  

That will always happen because sex sells. It's just a standard fact of marketing, and that fact will not change until society does. Femshep was not that 'tarted up' and neither was ashley.

[dgcatanisiri]

I love both, though I prefer man!Shep because it's easier for me to get in the head of a protagonist of the same gender.

However, I do admit that for me, Mark Meer's voice is more "Shepard" for me. I hear Mark Meer and I think Shepard. I hear Jennifer Hale and I think 'It's Jennifer Hale again.' That's sorta the problem with Jennifer Hale being the well-known and prolific VA that she is. She's been in so many things, her voice as Shepard just isn't iconic to me. That doesn't mean that I think femShep is overrated, just that she isn't MY Shepard.

But it's not like all Shepards have to match my version. That's part of the point.

[kumquats]

FemShep is okay, but she never had to face obstacles like Cate Archer. Which is the most underrated video game heroine out there, in my opinion.
So I don't really get what the hype is about.

[JesseLee202]

@Yuqi Seriously? Shepard is still Shepard, both have the same pre-sets, same dialogue (except for LI's). The only difference is their gender. Saying one will be remembered more than the other is just a stupid thing to say. They will be remembered equally.

[BP93]

dgcatanisiri wrote...

I love both, though I prefer man!Shep because it's easier for me to get in the head of a protagonist of the same gender.

However, I do admit that for me, Mark Meer's voice is more "Shepard" for me. I hear Mark Meer and I think Shepard. I hear Jennifer Hale and I think 'It's Jennifer Hale again.' That's sorta the problem with Jennifer Hale being the well-known and prolific VA that she is. She's been in so many things, her voice as Shepard just isn't iconic to me. That doesn't mean that I think femShep is overrated, just that she isn't MY Shepard.

But it's not like all Shepards have to match my version. That's part of the point.

Yeah I get that with some other VA's too. I'll forever associate DC Douglas as Wesker now. Same with Steve Blum who did work in God of War too as Ares. It can be too distuingishing to the point where it's a distraction.

EDIT: COD WAW was distracting as hell too. It was like "Sweet! Jack Bauer is telling me what to do!"

Modifié par BP93, 14 juin 2012 - 11:29 .

[Yuqi]

JesseLee202 wrote...

@Yuqi Seriously? Shepard is still Shepard, both have the same pre-sets, same dialogue (except for LI's). The only difference is their gender. Saying one will be remembered more than the other is just a stupid thing to say. They will be remembered equally.

Again, not Femshep herself but the effect she created. Sorry, but a male-shepard is still generic, that everyone has seen countless times  There're thousands of other male sci-fi leads. but how many female sci-fi leads do you see?Not many.

[JesseLee202]

Yuqi wrote...

JesseLee202 wrote...

@Yuqi Seriously? Shepard is still Shepard, both have the same pre-sets, same dialogue (except for LI's). The only difference is their gender. Saying one will be remembered more than the other is just a stupid thing to say. They will be remembered equally.

Again, not Femshep herself but the effect she created. Sorry, but a male-shepard is still generic, that everyone has seen countless times  There're thousands of other male sci-fi leads. but how many female sci-fi leads do you see?Not many.

K, lets play this game. The majority of players play as maleshep, thats a proven fact. And since the majority use him, more people would hear about maleshep than femshep from friends, media, etc. That means that maleshep would be remembered more. It doesn't matter how many other "sci-fi leads" are male, you are making this clearly an issue of gender when it should only be about character.  

You are also missing the point of this thread. The thread is about if femshep is overrated, (her VA) and she is, mostly because of her fans over-reacting and foaming at the mouth. She is good, but not as good as they try to make her appear. I just can't bring myself to do a playthrough as her, she has that "I'm trying to act like a tough rough military soldier!" when she doesn't have to! Her whole role seems very forced to me. I loved her role as Bastila in Kotor, but in ME she doesn't fit well IMO.

[Renmiri1]

FemShep rules.

[Wowky]

MaleShep fan here. I think Mark Meer's voice perfectly suits his role. I agree he probably pulls off the Paragon options better than the really angry Renegade ones, but some of the smart ass quips you can get from Renegade options are done SO well by Meer (e.g. "Let's get this over with, somebody needs an ass kicking"). I like Jennifer Hale as a VA, but I don't really rate her that highly as FemShep, something just sounds "off". I think she did a way better job as Trishka in Bulletstorm.

Modifié par Wowky, 15 juin 2012 - 05:36 .

[Little Princess Peach]

Call me crazy but I could never play manShep I just don't like his voice andd I feel unconfortable playing a male I guess factors into it But I like the fact that the game has a female main char as well as a males

[tanisha__unknown]

Mango370 wrote...

I don't understand the difference...they're the same person who has the exact same dialogue and personality. The only difference I see is that there's different romance options.

Did you play both male and female Sehpard?

Nothing wrong with Male Shepard, though. I actually think Mark Meer is
better as a renegade Shepard because of his more flat delivery. He makes
renegade Shepard sound like a complete troll, which works really well.
In comparison, Jennifer Hale is better in the role of a sincere paragon
Shepard.

I find Meer to be pure gold if you're going for full renegade,
especially in ME2. Hale makes a better Paragon by sounding really kind
and warm. Though Meer is also a good Paragon, I found Hale to be a bit
weak as a pure Renegade.

This and this

[Obvakhi]

One of the reasons I can't pay FemShep.... the horrible animations.

[7blue]

Obvakhi wrote...




One of the reasons I can't pay FemShep.... the horrible animations.

isn't  that the TransShep ?

[naddaya]

7blue wrote...

Obvakhi wrote...




One of the reasons I can't pay FemShep.... the horrible animations.

isn't  that the TransShep ?

I tend to sit like that too. I found it funny.

[Porenferser]

Overrated?
With only 16% playing her, I'd say she is HIGLY underrated.