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[CulturalGeekGirl]

I liked the game. It stumbled in some places, and I found the beginning to be really awkward at points, but all-in-all it was pretty great - up until the beam.

That said, the ending has made me never want to play any of the games again. I look at my CEs and I feel a bit sick. I assumed that as soon as I finished Mass Effect 3, I'd be off again on several full replays of the series. I assumed I'd be playing Mass Effect all the way through every couple years, like I do with Chrono Trigger.

Now that's not likely to happen.

Modifié par CulturalGeekGirl, 13 juin 2012 - 06:13 .

[Hey]

I really enjoyed the game. Probably not my favorite of the three but I felt it had some great moments.

[Kajan451]

Refara wrote...

I think most of us enjoyed it,

Hardly. Just the minority of the "Minority"... raised over 80k in the Charity drive, just to show how bad that game was.

I would take the dying down "outspokeness" as sign that most people actually enjoyed it. The Majority has moved on already.

And if we choose to apply the Nielson Family idea, which is used for TV ratings and decides about what companies produce, to people coming to the forums to share their view. We have a "minority" of discontent people that actually bothered to say something. And if that minority actually is applied to Nielson Family practices, it would mean that the minority is actually in the "yeah it was a good game" sector... and the rest falls into the "meh, it wasn't good but not horrible" and the "Omg, doom! Doom! Total doom!" regions.

Forbes and alot of media coverage of the "outcry" it produced, is a good indication that we can't really assume a minority to be on the side of the people that were upset with it.

A minority is always upset with games. They don't get their actions covered by Forbes.

Modifié par Kajan451, 13 juin 2012 - 06:18 .

[TK EL_]

The terrible ending has only caused people to apply a microscope to the game and brought to light many other flaws that really shouldn't be there and also made issue of problems that would have otherwise been overlooked. Just a few jarring issues:

- They took a monumental step back with the journal
- You cannot obtain enough EMS through SP alone even with optimal imports and decisions

[vvDRUCILLAvv]

While I don't hate ME3, I felt that it was rushed and lacked the passion that made ME1 & 2 so great.

[TK EL_]

CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

I liked the game. It stumbled in some places, and I found the beginning to be really awkward at points, but all-in-all it was pretty great - up until the beam.

That said, the ending has made me never want to play any of the games again. I look at my CEs and I feel a bit sick. I assumed that as soon as I finished Mass Effect 3, I'd be off again on several full replays of the series. I assumed I'd be playing Mass Effect all the way through every couple years, like I do with Chrono Trigger.

Now that's not likely to happen.

My feelings exactly. This was only the second CE I've ever bothered getting. I've yet to beat the game more than once. I got two friends to buy the game on release, imagine their confusion when I told them the end was garbage and it ruined it for me. The really crappy thing was this had been a slow period for games after the abundance of winter. ME3 was supposed to be perfect. It's kind of like that scene in Revenge of the Sith where Obi Wan was saying Anakin was supposed to be the chosen one, but ended up screwing everything up

[Xenite]

I think people have mostly over looked it's big flaws, and let's face it they screwed up in some areas. The game focuses way to much on Cerberus, the vast majority of missions is fighting them and not the Reapers.

They also apparently didn't listen to DA2 fans who admonished the lame FedEx style of quest, they repeated the same junk in ME3.

They handled most of the romances horribly while showing huge fanboyism to Liara.

And then you have the ending that is so bad it renders to first two games unplayable for many people.

It really seems they just rushed the game out the door in several areas. Indoctrination was supposed to play a role, to much content in the game points at it, like Jersey Shore mentioning the buzzing (often heard with indoctrination).

Modifié par Xenite, 13 juin 2012 - 06:40 .

[Han Shot First]

While it wasn't without flaws, I thought it was the best game of the series until the ending.

[GreenDragon37]

Mass Effect 3 had a "weak" beginning, a strong middle (Tuchanka and Rannoch) but got weak afterward. Thessia felt rushed and Priority: Earth... I'm not even going to go there. There were also the crappy fetch quests and auto-dialogue, choices being side-lined and meaningless (Rachni), missed opportunities, etc. 

I probably would have given it a 8.5. A very good game, but not as good as its predecessors... and then the ending came, and I dropped the game down to a 7.5. A good game with flaws turned into a game that killed my interest in the franchise. Sorry, I didn't play Mass Effect for the shooting, I played it for the characters, story, and the universe. Mass Effect 3 killed all that.

So, my scale goes in chronological order, even if the endings are fixed: ME1 >or = ME2 >>> ME3

Don't hate it, but it could have been so much more.

Modifié par GreenDragon37, 13 juin 2012 - 07:29 .

[wsandista]

Easily the worst out of the 3. ME was the best, it all went downhill after that.

[shodiswe]

I liked most of the game, but the ending with earth gradualy deteriorated in quality then when I got to the catalyst it hit rockbottom. It's more about missed opportunities and rushed work that brings it down. Least that's what I would like it to be.
I really wouldn't want to think that that part of the game is the best that the creators of said material can create.

[wright1978]

I found it to be average but i don't hate it.
I hate the huge swathes of auto-dialogue, the mutilated dialogue wheel and their attempt to shove a canon Shep into the final part of a trilogy.
Ohh and i hate the ending.

[Cyberarmy]

Stornskar wrote...

jedsithor wrote...

I thought ME3 was great until the ending. The problem is, the ending made me not want to play any of the Mass Effect games anymore and since the EC isn't going to solve the major logic flaw of the game, I think it's time I stopped hoping and traded in the games.

It would be so much easier to hate the game, believe me.

Pretty much this ...

Yeah this.

But after a while a moved on and played first game again, after speaking with Sovereign i unistalled 3rd game...
Finished the first game and transfered my "Ultimate B!tch of The Universe" Shep to second game, lost my interest before going to old dead reaper.

[CrazyRah]

I don't hate the game, if the ending was better than the turd it is right now i would probably love the game but now i can't enjoy the games (ME1-ME3) anymore. I just don't want to play the games with the ending being what it is

[PlumPaul93]

Playing through the ME series again (on ME1) I found a new appreciation for ME3. Sure the journal is horrible and there are plenty of other issues, but I find it much more enjoyable than ME1 now. That might have to do with ME1 being much older and the fact I've played it a lot though.

[LKx]

Hackulator wrote...

...or is it just a vocal internet minority? Me and the majority of my real life friends LOVED the game. Although we all agree the ending was weak and needed a rewrite, overall we thought ME3 was amazing, possibly one of the best games we ever played. Included in this group of friends are 2 writers and designers for tabletop RPGs (myself and a friend, published), one video game designer with a Master's Degree in Entertainment Technology, a number of programmers and developers, and a fair number of people who have nothing to do with the gaming industry.

This suggests to me that perhaps this game is not nearly as hated as it seems, rather that the million people who loved the game felt no need to come on the internet and complain about it. Obviously this is a terrible place to ask this question if I hope to get a real answer, but it was still something I wanted to put out there and see what people had to say.

Have your friends played the first two games? (i think that it's an important question)

[Maias227]

Nope I enjoyed the game.

[fainmaca]

For me the game only really had four shining moments that I thought qualified as 'great', and even three of those were marred by logic gaps/lack of explanation/contradictions/weak resolution.

1. Tuchanka resolution. This was a great scene, but it still left a few questions unanswered. The Genophage was distributed (according to ME2) by covert drops at key population centres to ensure species-wide saturation, and then spread swiftly to ensure that all of those off-planet would get it, too. Does the cure counter this, or are we left with a chance for Krogan not on Tuchanka during the firing of the Shroud to reintroduce the genophage?

2. The Rannoch War. While this was an awesome culmination of the struggle, I felt it could have been more. Han'gerrel becomes purely antagonistic, rather than the jovial, almost uncle-like relationship he has with Tali in ME2, and then Xen, who seemed set up to be such a brilliant antagonist, is reduced to demi-ally background stuff.

3. The Geth Consensus. I have to look pretty hard to find anything to pick at here. Sheer brilliance. I only wish they had given us more missions that required less pew-pew like this. They're always my faves.

4. The Sword fleet. An awesome scene, but the resolution is just so poor the overall effect is a gamer's version of blue balls. I can't give Bioware any priase for a setup that leads to such a lacklustre conclusion.

In the rest of the game, we have uninspired development decisions (giving the ship a bod and the whole 'anceint avenger' idea have been done to death. we know Bioware can do better than following the crowd here), inconsistent treatment of the majority of characters (with some getting outright demolished just to fulfill a role the ME3 plot created/to avoid having to give them a resolution that would require too much work), weak motivations for everything (Crucible, TIM's turn to the dark side, nobody at all figuring out they need to work together to win this) and yes, a movement of focus onto Multi-Player.

So yes, I hate Mass effect 3 for the negative effect it is having on storytelling in video games. If we're lucky, developers will realise that their fans won't settle for a half-assed attempt and will pull their socks up, smarten up and put more effort into giving saga-length narratives a satisfying continuation and conclusion. If we're not, corporations will decide story-based video games are not worth their time and money, and then the ascendance of CoD-type gaming to the prime genre for the medium will be complete.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to get back under my tinfoil hat.

[GloryToChaos]

AlexPorto111 wrote...

I love ME3.But the ending...

I WANT MY LITTLE BLUE CHILDREN!

That would be so fantastic.

[dorktainian]

I hate the fact that after 3 games, all that is left is a feeling of bitterness.

[fchopin]

I like the game and i am fine with the ending.

[Haargel]

I liked it, was disapointed with the fetch quests and lack of hub worlds, and especially the ending, for the rest I loved the game.

And they screwed up the ending so bad that people are turning every stone looking for another error, how small it may be. But that´s what you get.

Yet, I have high hopes regarding the EC, there are just so many plotholes and stuff that didn´t make sense, it´s just not how BioWare develops games. Something big is on it´s way. I don´t believe it really ends as it did. (Not a fan of IT or something, however I think it´s a good concept, it could be anything)

[Slayer299]

I don't *hate*ME3, but I found it to be deeply flawed throughout *and* the ending which was just beyond words horrific. The only bright spots I found were; Rannoch, Tuchanka, music, voice acting are the only ones I can think of at 5am though.

[Peranor]

Hate is such a strong word. I would rather say that I'm... indifferent... to ME3 at this point.
If the EC turns out to be a huge success then great. But if it crash and burns I'll just uninstall the game and leave it at that. Well... Maybe I'll do some minor wrist cutting and cry for a few hours in the shower curled up in foetal position. But other then that I won't bother with it. There are other games out there.