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[Pipboy3billion]

I'm planning to take another run through the BG series, but I'm planning a few mods this time around. This is the list:

BG1
FixPack
G3 NPC project
Game Text Update
Unfinished Business

BG2
FixPack
Banter Pack
Unfinished Business
Wild Sorceror Custom Kit

On top of this, I will be using the G3 Widescreen mod.

I would like to also use either EasyTutu, Tutu, or BGT. I have EasyTutu now, but am having trouble getting it to work with all these mods (especially WS). So...

1) If all I want is to run these mods and be able to carry my party into BG2, which is better: EasyTutu, Tutu, or BGT?? I ask because I hear some of them also tweak the rulesets.
2) Is there a particular order in which I should install these mods?

Thanks

[Grond0]

Either EasyTutu or BGT would work. I would go for BGT to give a consistent set of rules throughout, no need to import characters into BG2 and many BG1 characters transferring seamlessly into BG2. However, EasyTutu has many fans as well.

The following site has a list of mods compatible with BGT (nearly all will work with EasyTutu as well). The list has links to websites they can be obtained from and is in recommended installation order.
http://kerzenburg.ba....eu/bwpmods.php

[Pipboy3billion]

With BGT, will NPCs carry over? That is, will Jah, Minsc, and Imoen be as I finished them in BG1 (proficiencies/levels/thief skills/dual levels)?

[Grond0]

Yes. Not all BG1 characters are in BG2, but those that are will all be unchanged.

[Gate70]

Or permanently dead (I think, was a long time and several versions of BGT ago plus possibly other mods).

You may also want to use consistent stats from BG2 tweaks. Their BG1 / BG2 values are below, if you start BGT without tweaks they will retain the lower values throughout so you can only get the higher values by recruiting them in Amn or using the tweak.

Edwin STR 9 / 10, WIS 9 / 10
Jaheira DEX 14 / 17
Minsc DEX 15 / 16, CON 15 / 16
Viconia WIS 15/18

Modifié par Gate70, 13 juin 2012 - 06:21 .

[Grond0]

Gate70 wrote...

Or permanently dead (I think, was a long time and several versions of BGT ago plus possibly other mods).

You may also want to use consistent stats from BG2 tweaks. Their BG1 / BG2 values are below, if you start BGT without tweaks they will retain the lower values throughout so you can only get the higher values by recruiting them in Amn or using the tweak.

That's right - unchanged whether alive or dead.

One other mod you might be interested in would be BGT tweaks.  Among other things that allows you to take a number of BG1 characters through to BG2 that are not in the normal storyline.

[ArchDragonDranovis]

And here is the EasyTutu Fan letting you know about the other side of the coin.

For EasyTutu, you must have NOTHING on either game except official patches. You want the patches on BG1 and BG2 before you EasyTutu. (Obviously with TotSC and ToB iinstalled with their patches.)
I use EasyTutu since I am familiar with it. The difference of EasyTutu compared to BGT is that for EasyTutu, you have to export your Created characters, but otherwise, it isn't that bad. But you will have to put the BG2 mods on both EasyTutu AND BG2 to get it for both (all BG1 mods go on to EasyTutu.)
Also, make sure you don't put EasyTutu into program files so it WILL work. After EasyTutu is installed, just put all the mods into the same folder and enjoy.

[Pipboy3billion]

This isn't working. I've tried both EasyTutu and BGT and have problems with both. BGT crashes incessantly, so I think I'll go with EasyTutu. I'm about to uninstall everything and start again from scratch (for the third time). Also, I never install anything into Program Files if I can help it (I know UAC sucks).

Based on my experiences so far, and what has been said in this thread, this is my intended installation order. Please tell me if this right so I don't have to go through all this again.

BG+ToSC
BG2+ToB
EasyTutu
Fixpack for BG2
Fixpack for BG1*
Game Text Update*
G3 NPC Project*
BG1 Unfinished Business*
BG2 Unfinished Business
Banter Pack

Anything marked with a * will be installed to EasyTutu, not the original BG game.

Finally, after everything, I will do the G3 widescreen mod installed both to EasyTutu and BG2.

I'm also installing the nvidia fix and possibly also this fix but I have no idea when and where they go in.

Is this the right order? I feel like I'm playing pin the tail on the donkey here.

Modifié par Pipboy3billion, 15 juin 2012 - 02:35 .

[Grond0]

Pipboy3billion wrote...
Is this the right order? I feel like I'm playing pin the tail on the donkey here.

Some points in response:
1)  I would suggest you look at the EasyTutu readme before proceeding.
2)  This thread gives advice on installation order for a wider range of mods.  It also gives you advice on how to set up your intallation to start with, including what to do with Weidu.
3)  I'm not sure what you mean by BG1 Fixpack. If this is one of the older mods (like Baldurdash) then it's probably both not needed and incompatible with Tutu/BGT - which may explain your problems with BGT.  The BG2 Fixpack is also not needed by EasyTutu (but you will need it in BG2 - unlike with BGT you will not have the same game setup for BG1 and BG2).  There is a Tutufix mod, some elements of which can be used by EasyTutu if you want (see above threads for details).
4)  There is a game text update already in EasyTutu, so you shouldn't install that mod as well.  For BG2 it's already in the Fixpack.
5)  I think there are various Banter Packs available.  Assuming you are referring to the PocketPlane Group mod that's for BG2 only so not needed on EasyTutu.
6)  The nvidia fix is nothing to do with BG; don't know about the other one you refer to.
7)  It's a long time since I used EasyTutu, but I think your installations should thus include the following mods from your above list:
Your BG1 installation would include (in the separate EasyTutu directory):
EasyTutu
BG1 Unfinished Business
BG1 NPC Project
Widescreen
Your BG2 installation would include:
BG2 Fixpack
BG2 Unfinished Business
Banter Pack
Widescreen

Modifié par Grond0, 15 juin 2012 - 04:45 .

[Pipboy3billion]

I think it's working now. Thanks for the help.