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sparkyo42 wrote...

abaris wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

again i take it you didnt read that bioware said the same thing months ago so why act at all suprised?

if anyone really believes ea bought out bioware to destroy then yes i think they need alot of mental help let alone a buisness class or two




Say what?

First, I'm not the one being surprised they're not changing the ending. Others obviously are.

And I'm also not the one saying, EA bought them to destroy them.

So what are you trying to communicate?


Tazz is one of the people that believes we should open our wallets and thank Bioware fro the pleasure of them removing the money. What they give us in return isn't very important.



tell me again smart guy so far how much money have you given bioware for the dlc packs we already got?


if your keeping track its not a single penny and you know it. if people are stupid enough to spend real money knowing what the store is for the unlock packs thats on you and not bioware because you damn well know you can use in game currency and you choose the lazy way to do things.



provide me a link where bioware stated the extend cut will be priced. seriously show me since you have all the answers

the whole wallet argument is invalid and you know it

Modifié par Tazzmission, 13 juin 2012 - 07:10 .


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i IIVIIorpheus wrote...

They acknowledge that players choices did not influence as EAware claimed.  Seems like people who didn't like the ridiculous, nonsensical ending,  had a legitimate complaint and weren't the "entitled whiners" smug, elitist proenders tried to make them out to be...


Filing an actual complaint is a little bit over the top in my opinion. But the rage in itself isn't.  There's a disturbing tendency of people sucking up to the industry by greeting every morsel that's thrown their way like the second coming. It's most prominent with games, since some people tend to see developers as their personal friends. In my opinion it's kind of a mild stalker thing going on in their minds. But it's a general trend and the industry can and will make use of that by putting less and less effort into their products and customer relations.

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Tazzmission wrote...

sparkyo42 wrote...

abaris wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

again i take it you didnt read that bioware said the same thing months ago so why act at all suprised?

if anyone really believes ea bought out bioware to destroy then yes i think they need alot of mental help let alone a buisness class or two




Say what?

First, I'm not the one being surprised they're not changing the ending. Others obviously are.

And I'm also not the one saying, EA bought them to destroy them.

So what are you trying to communicate?


Tazz is one of the people that believes we should open our wallets and thank Bioware fro the pleasure of them removing the money. What they give us in return isn't very important.



tell me again smart guy so far how much money have you given bioware for the dlc packs we already got?


if your keeping track its not a single penny and you know it. if people are stupid enough to spend real money knowing what the store is for the unlock packs thats on you and not bioware because you damn well know you can use in game currency and you choose the lazy way to do things.



provide me a link where bioware stated the extend cut will be priced. seriously show me since you have all the answers

the whole wallet argument is invalid and you know it


You're right I haven't spent a penny on DLC as I have no itention of using POS MP, Whether or not they were intended to be free is besides the point.

The Wallet iis the €90 for the game. I and everyone else has a right to complain whether its small things or the debacle of the ending. This EC is to try and make the SP DLC cost effective for the next year and you know it. Those are going to cost if they think its worth money. Its a stunt, a PR exercise to try and win back people and lesson the damage and make money which is the only damn thing they care about.

Modifié par sparkyo42, 13 juin 2012 - 07:22 .


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Tazzmission wrote...

sparkyo42 wrote...

abaris wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

again i take it you didnt read that bioware said the same thing months ago so why act at all suprised?

if anyone really believes ea bought out bioware to destroy then yes i think they need alot of mental help let alone a buisness class or two




Say what?

First, I'm not the one being surprised they're not changing the ending. Others obviously are.

And I'm also not the one saying, EA bought them to destroy them.

So what are you trying to communicate?


Tazz is one of the people that believes we should open our wallets and thank Bioware fro the pleasure of them removing the money. What they give us in return isn't very important.



tell me again smart guy so far how much money have you given bioware for the dlc packs we already got?


if your keeping track its not a single penny and you know it. if people are stupid enough to spend real money knowing what the store is for the unlock packs thats on you and not bioware because you damn well know you can use in game currency and you choose the lazy way to do things.



provide me a link where bioware stated the extend cut will be priced. seriously show me since you have all the answers

the whole wallet argument is invalid and you know it


Given the fact the we already paid for an unsatisfactory product, i guess its nice of bioware to deliver ...something... at last.

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sparkyo42 wrote...

You're right I haven't spent a penny on DLC as I have no itention of using POS MP, Whether or not they were intended to be free is besides the point.


If you're talking about MP DLCs you bet the were intended to be "free". They're easy to produce and the real money lies with microtransactions and the app madness.

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abaris wrote...

sparkyo42 wrote...

You're right I haven't spent a penny on DLC as I have no itention of using POS MP, Whether or not they were intended to be free is besides the point.


If you're talking about MP DLCs you bet the were intended to be "free". They're easy to produce and the real money lies with microtransactions and the app madness.


Fine so they branded it so they can get more money from fools that use the waste of MP. It still doesn;t change the fact that they already have the wallets of many people open without any effort to hold them to quality. I've bought DLC for DA:O, DA2, ME1 and ME2. The chance for DLC for ME3 is not going to happen

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abaris wrote...

i IIVIIorpheus wrote...

They acknowledge that players choices did not influence as EAware claimed.  Seems like people who didn't like the ridiculous, nonsensical ending,  had a legitimate complaint and weren't the "entitled whiners" smug, elitist proenders tried to make them out to be...


Filing an actual complaint is a little bit over the top in my opinion. But the rage in itself isn't.  There's a disturbing tendency of people sucking up to the industry by greeting every morsel that's thrown their way like the second coming. It's most prominent with games, since some people tend to see developers as their personal friends. In my opinion it's kind of a mild stalker thing going on in their minds. But it's a general trend and the industry can and will make use of that by putting less and less effort into their products and customer relations.


So because we actually like the game, we're sucking up and are stalkers?

Gotcha.

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Tazzmission wrote...

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tell me again smart guy so far how much money have you given bioware for the dlc packs we already got?


if your keeping track its not a single penny and you know it. if people are stupid enough to spend real money knowing what the store is for the unlock packs thats on you and not bioware because you damn well know you can use in game currency and you choose the lazy way to do things.



provide me a link where bioware stated the extend cut will be priced. seriously show me since you have all the answers

the whole wallet argument is invalid and you know it

Pretty sure the only reason they have given out any free DLC at all is because of all of the hate on the game, the free DLC being free was simply a damage control thing. I am also pretty sure that people paid $10 for the day one DLC, which a lot of was already on the disc. :mellow:

Modifié par slyguy200, 13 juin 2012 - 08:46 .


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I find it funny how she thinks the problem with the ending is that Shepard dies. She calls it "too realistic". Oh the irony. If only she knew what actually happened.

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3. they are trying to justify the ending


I feel like I am going to vomit.:sick:

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Good luck trying to polish that turd into something resembling passable.

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...wow good luck bioware.But that ending is as floatable as the Titanic and as safe as the Hindenburg. Atleast show us the decency enough to acknowledge that many people think that the ending is lacking variety and logic. Its not the hero dying that even bug most people its the way its presented that totally fails.

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Darth Death wrote...

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Is it even possible to justify and "clarify" this ending?

No, but they're going to try. 

Bless their <3s

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AdamJenson wrote...

Not a surprise to those who actually "listened" to Bioware (unlike Bioware who SAYS they're "listening" but...not so much). It was always going to be the same ending, just MORE of it.

They will NEVER justify "Synthetics ALWAYS turn on their creators" or "I created synthetics to kill advanced organics before advanced organics could create synthetics to kill that would kill them.
See? Aren't you happy that MY synthetics are killing you instead of your own? "

This confirmation (as if it was actually even needed) merely confirms that my time around these here parts and with anything Bioware is fast coming to a permanent and ignoble end.  ME1 and ME2 still sit in repose on my computer.  ME3 sits dormant on a DVD.  Upon release of the offensive anal gas otherwise referred to as the "EC", simply attempting to justify the unjustifiable (logically IMPOSSIBLE), the ME games that are current sitting static upon my harddrive will be uninstalled and forgotten.  The ME3 DVD will visit the microwave (have you ever microwaved a CD or DVD?  Nifty light show!  Only do it for 10 seconds kids.  Blue sparks dance a tango all over the disc surface...just like the blue explosions in the ending of ME3!) and then go into the trashbin.



For one, the milky way is not the only galaxy in the universe. Just the only one we've seen. The Reapers sleep in dark space between the galaxies. It's not impossible that Starboy saw one galaxy or more fall to synthetics before deciding to do the Cycle in the Milky Way. He's the same as Javik, all of his past encounters with synthetics have been bad, so thats all he believes they are capable of. And he never said outright that Synthetics will just up and destroy organics for no reason, but merely that conflict will happen one way or another, which is always has. Synthetics also evolve at a faster rate than organics and will always be limited to the flaws in their base programming. Meaning if their order is to eliminate all threats, they would indiscriminately kill anything that could be a threat.

Also Kimberly Brookes said that HER sessions for EC were simple, not all the dialogue, which as a voice actor, she lacks the privelige or the care to see.(I listen to comentaries of VAs and a lot of them don't actually watch or play the things they work on until they are completely done.) This quote proves it. "but they don’t tell us lowly actors anything.” And considering the fact that Ashley is only a supporting character/prop for Shepard, and ends up in a really obscure place, I'm not surprised that she doesn't have much to say. You cant expect Ashley to take precedence over Shepard, Hackett, or anybody majorly relevant to the central plot.

Also we already knew they were going to explain the ending in EC. That's nothing new and nothing to subvert to make attacks at Bioware.

I love this.

Kimberly Brooks: “Well, I was surprised. Maybe because the response was so overwhelming.
Artistically you’ve just got to go with whatever your vision is, no
matter what the response is.”


In other words, screw the ending haters! Your opinions mean nothing! :P

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She doesn't seem to know a whole lot about the game.

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HBC Dresden wrote...

Any word on Harbinger talking?


an ending with harbinger > an ending without harbinger

but will bioware put harbinger in the ending?

nope.

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ChurchOfZod wrote...

She doesn't seem to know a whole lot about the game.

I'm pretty sure she said she hasn't played it.

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oh man
i better buy stock in products that people use to riot with

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Cthulhu42 wrote...

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She doesn't seem to know a whole lot about the game.

I'm pretty sure she said she hasn't played it.


I know from the interview that she hasn't played it, but I'd think she'd at least have some ancillary knowledge of the game.

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Quote from Interview: then the third game came out… The response was not good. Maybe it was too much of a realistic ending?........

Realistic ending mmhhhh.

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poerksen wrote...

Quote from Interview: then the third game came out… The response was not good. Maybe it was too much of a realistic ending?........

Realistic ending mmhhhh.


Read: "Not sunshine and unicorns and dancing ewoks"

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Not encouraging. But hey, I'll hope until I see the product. If it is good, then I'll be happy. If it sucks, then Bioware might not see any more money from me anytime soon.  It is what it is.

Modifié par Blastback, 14 juin 2012 - 01:26 .


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To be honest at the very least I hope they make the three colours distinct.

At the moment, even with the limited dialogue of the Star-Child, were are told to expect radically different outcomes to the three choices. Yet what we get shown with the three endings are virtually identical.

Make the choices all stand out from each other and I think they could silence a lot of the complaints.

Modifié par voteDC, 14 juin 2012 - 01:31 .


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1. The voice acting is simple, but that doesn't necisarily mean its bad.
2 and 3. Were you listening when they announced the EC. They explicitly said thats what it was.
This is coming from someone who liked the ending, so go ahead and hate on me if you want.

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slyguy200 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

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tell me again smart guy so far how much money have you given bioware for the dlc packs we already got?


if your keeping track its not a single penny and you know it. if people are stupid enough to spend real money knowing what the store is for the unlock packs thats on you and not bioware because you damn well know you can use in game currency and you choose the lazy way to do things.



provide me a link where bioware stated the extend cut will be priced. seriously show me since you have all the answers

the whole wallet argument is invalid and you know it

Pretty sure the only reason they have given out any free DLC at all is because of all of the hate on the game, the free DLC being free was simply a damage control thing. I am also pretty sure that people paid $10 for the day one DLC, which a lot of was already on the disc. :mellow:


cant deny though they didnt have to give it away for free hell they couldve became activision 2.0 and charged 15 bucks a pop per mp pack but they didnt

hell they didnt even have to ackwoledge anything regarding the ending and yet here comes a free dlc exclusivley for it


im no butt kisser and this may make me one but the devs have alot of thick skin because to take so much verbal abuse and give stuff away for free tells you they are at least trying to make up for it

i really wish more people would see that because they have this attitude and 110% of the time assume its all a lie or fib or ea just bought bioware to destroy it for laughs and giggles.