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What if Liara was the Catalyst, and that was the twist? *Updated*


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Mathias

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UPDATE: Ok so this obviously flew over most people's heads so i'm going to have to spell it out for them, despite the fact I already stress this in the OP. This is a "What if?" scenario, and the purpose of the thread is to express what your reaction would be, if this had happened. Would it have been better or worse than the Star Child? Would you forgive the Catalyst for lying to you, or shoot it? Things like that.



Liaramancers are definitely gonna hate this, but here we go.

Say in an alternate universe, ME3 was released and we all played through to the end. The game played out pretty much the same, up until you meet the Catalyst. But instead of seeing Star Brat, you see Liara.

"Now what kinda stupid riff raff explaination do you have for that, before I tear you a new a-hole OP?" Is what you're probably thinking.

The Prothean ruins that Liara was digging back in Mass Effect 1, housed the Catalyst, for whatever reason. Perhaps the Protheans somehow obtained the AI during their cycle, but could not control it so they kept it safe and hidden.

While Liara was digging she came across the device and begin studying it, while she continued her expedition. Soon Saren's Geth attack the facility and Liara is killed. The Catalyst, fully awakened due to Liara's tampering, is able to take control of Liara's body and uses it as a host. It is weak in this state and with no way out, it seals itself in that chamber that we saw her imprisoned in. The Catalyst becomes aware that an alliance team has infiltrated the ruins and sees it's opportunity to escape. It pretends it's trapped to enlist the aid of Shepard and his crew.

They all escape and upon hearing Shepard's debriefing of the mission, The Catalyst decides to go along with Shepard and his crew, curious to see how it all plays out. And then the events of the rest of the trilogy play out. The Catalyst over time gains better control of Liara's body, and is able to unlock it's potential. Hence explaining why Liara become so powerful during the gap between ME1 and ME2. It also explains her plot armor.

Eventually we get to the 3 choices and Liara reveals herself as The Catalyst. We don't truly know what it's motives were from the beginning, but it does explain what it is and that witnessing Shepard's actions throughout the trilogy has it convinced that organics are ready to make the change via Control, Synthesis or Destroy. The truth of the matter is, Shepard never knew the real Liara.

Now i'm sure you can question quite a few things about this, but say for the sake of argument, all of this had played out well, had little plot holes, and made sense. What would your reaction have been, had this happened?

Modifié par Mdoggy1214, 13 juin 2012 - 07:09 .


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Makrys

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No.

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alec1898

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Hah. The looooooooooooolz.

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adneate

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You've done it old chap! You've found a way to make the ending to ME3 even more of an asspull. I didn't think it was possible but you proved me wrong!

Please drink all my bleach. I insist.

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PsyrenY

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Mdoggy1214 wrote...

Hence explaining why Liara become so powerful during the gap between ME1 and ME2. It also explains her plot armor.


Sigh.

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DRTJR

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It would have been better than what we got. Also it would validate my urge to have Javik escort her to the air lock.

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DubVee12

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Makrys wrote...

No.



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adneate wrote...

You've done it old chap! You've found a way to make the ending to ME3 even more of an asspull. I didn't think it was possible but you proved me wrong!

Please drink all my bleach. I insist.


That's a bit extreme.

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My theory is that everyone was indoctrinated, they were just indoctrinated to believe they weren't indoctrinated.

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sUiCiDeKiNgS13

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I would have shot her and been done with her once and for all

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Phydeaux314

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what

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sUiCiDeKiNgS13 wrote...

I would have shot her and been done with her once and for all


I'm sure a lot of people would've lost their minds over this. Especially if they romanced her.

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Uh...so it's basically the same except with Liara instead of an AI hologram.

.............

...W...why would the AI get in a romance with Shepard? >_>

.............

...Did the AI actually fall in love with Shepard? >_<

Modifié par EsterCloat, 13 juin 2012 - 06:14 .


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Nefla

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This would make the idea of being able to romance her super gross. Plus the ending is JRPG enough as it is.

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Zacatus88

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What a twist!

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thesnake777

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.....Then can I shoot Liara?

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xsdob

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Dramatic Reveal.

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Grimwick

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'It also explains her plot armour'?

Her plot armour IS there for a reason already... I don't see how your idea would help.

It's also a horrendous idea imo.

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Hicks233

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If I get to kill her then sure.

Otherwise no.

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Geneaux486

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People are reacting kinda strongly to your harmless "what if" scenario. I like it though, seems like the kind of thing that'd be fun to write. Always thought it'd be funny if Avina wound up being the Catalyst, myself.

Modifié par Geneaux486, 13 juin 2012 - 07:17 .


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shodiswe

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no... I don't want to involve Liara or any other "normal" friend I got into this mess..

If the catalyst had been a stored memory of one of the proteans scientists that sabotaged and altered the Citadel then I would have been more fine with it.

Modifié par shodiswe, 13 juin 2012 - 07:18 .


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Ironhandjustice

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Kill liara?

Hell, yes.

But I prefer Sovereign as "Catalyst". He was linked up with the citadel, and makes sense about why the hell the reapers attacked the facility and why the hell if the catalyst was there, he didn't ever pluged on the mass relay...

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Ironhandjustice wrote...

Kill liara?

Hell, yes.

But I prefer Sovereign as "Catalyst". He was linked up with the citadel, and makes sense about why the hell the reapers attacked the facility and why the hell if the catalyst was there, he didn't ever pluged on the mass relay...


Maybe because the Proteans scientists had sabotaged the catalysts ability fully control it's reaperform? (Citadel)

Therefor the Citadel/catalyst is just sitting there needing outside input.

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No