BuckshotSamurai wrote...
How do people still not know how to do this properly? Maybe because it's fracking lame and nobody wants to do it "properly" with you. FBWGG has got to be the most boring thing I've ever done in a video game. When I land in random lobbies doing this, I run around the map playing my game. They can either follow or die in the basement.
Lee80alabama wrote...
MetalHeadDev wrote...
Lee80alabama wrote...
indy500fan wrote...
What is the proper strategy? Every game I play it is done a little differently but it always seems to be fine.
What pisses me off are the Quarians and Geth throwing turrets too far away, to points that they can hit enemies before we can. I don't care that they are getting more points that way (it's actually not all that much), it just is annoying as hell because some enemies will not continue moving towards us, making it take longer before we see them and can actually kill them.
Agreed with your ponit about the turrents. Adding to that, they can actually cause you to fail object rounds. The last thing you want to do is slow down the mob if it's an eliminate the targets round.
I find that to be a little niaeve. They throw turrets that attack enemies before they get to you, making it A - easier for you to kill softened targets once they're in range and B - faster to plow through a horde and C - safer because weakened enemies are less likely to kill you before you kill them.
Sure, an object round maybe slowing down the horde of geth for a few seconds...if that causes you to fail, you're doing it wrong.
If the turrents are there it slows down all the geth in that one line of enemies. That means it slows down the 3 rocket troopers, 2 regular troopers, and however many hunters etc...and the objective the prime is back there waiting patiently in line to get his shot at the turrents that keep spawning far away from the rest of the team. If it makes the enemies easier to kill, the difference is not worth all the extra money you could make by killing the objectives faster. It's just logic.
Babbylonian wrote...
Even worse than the kill-the-enemy objective (which can usually be solved by a little Cobra action) are the 4-device objectives. When the turret is deployed way outside the normal killing field, it can end up decoying enemies toward the area where an infiltrator is trying to cap. Even when they finish the cap, their cloak is on the longest possible cooldown and they tend to get popped shortly after.
Someone With Mass wrote...
To be really honest, I'm mostly screwing up out of pure spite.
Just no. They can be softened the same amount if the turret is placed just past the usual decoy spot, and the turret will last longer to boot since it gets the benefit of the decoy's superior aggro generation.MetalHeadDev wrote...
I find that to be a little niaeve. They throw turrets that attack enemies before they get to you, making it A - easier for you to kill softened targets once they're in range and B - faster to plow through a horde and C - safer because weakened enemies are less likely to kill you before you kill them.Lee80alabama wrote...
indy500fan wrote...
What is the proper strategy? Every game I play it is done a little differently but it always seems to be fine.
What pisses me off are the Quarians and Geth throwing turrets too far away, to points that they can hit enemies before we can. I don't care that they are getting more points that way (it's actually not all that much), it just is annoying as hell because some enemies will not continue moving towards us, making it take longer before we see them and can actually kill them.
Agreed with your ponit about the turrents. Adding to that, they can actually cause you to fail object rounds. The last thing you want to do is slow down the mob if it's an eliminate the targets round.
Sure, an object round maybe slowing down the horde of geth for a few seconds...if that causes you to fail, you're doing it wrong.
Modifié par Babbylonian, 13 juin 2012 - 04:05 .
Necroneous wrote...
sitting outside is great if and only if you are an infiltrator. A GOOD infiltrator at that. Nothing rustles my jimmies more when someone tries to sit near me and aggros a prime or something that would normally ignore me because of TC.
Plus, sitting inside is really really boring, and having an infiltrator out on that corner is very viable.
Babbylonian wrote...
I'm also confused by the logic of those who try to camp the outside. The best-case scenario is that you get a couple of extra shots on primes before they come back into view of the far inside counter and maybe kill a couple of rocket troopers early, neither of which is particularly useful. It's also perplexing that non-SEs won't switch counters when the action shifts from inside to outside; if outside primes aren't significantly weakened before they make the move to come in, the team is at significant risk that the prime will forget about the decoy and start killing players over cover.
Generally, I'd rather play straight-up U/U/G (though it may take a few failures to find a good team), but if I decide to join into a lobby where FBWGG is selected I absolutely expect the team to use the most efficient strategy. If a team wants to freestyle, there's no point in selecting the farming configuration.
Kick In The Door wrote...
Someone With Mass wrote...
To be really honest, I'm mostly screwing up out of pure spite.
Why? Players who aren't good enough for u/u/g that find their niche in fbwgg and therefore have an easier time getting items while getting better at the game makes you angry?
I'd rather have them learning the ropes on fbwgg then to have them come to reaper gold and screw it up for all of us.
Babbylonian wrote...
Just no. They can be softened the same amount if the turret is placed just past the usual decoy spot, and the turret will last longer to boot since it gets the benefit of the decoy's superior aggro generation.MetalHeadDev wrote...
I find that to be a little niaeve. They throw turrets that attack enemies before they get to you, making it A - easier for you to kill softened targets once they're in range and B - faster to plow through a horde and C - safer because weakened enemies are less likely to kill you before you kill them.Lee80alabama wrote...
indy500fan wrote...
What is the proper strategy? Every game I play it is done a little differently but it always seems to be fine.
What pisses me off are the Quarians and Geth throwing turrets too far away, to points that they can hit enemies before we can. I don't care that they are getting more points that way (it's actually not all that much), it just is annoying as hell because some enemies will not continue moving towards us, making it take longer before we see them and can actually kill them.
Agreed with your ponit about the turrents. Adding to that, they can actually cause you to fail object rounds. The last thing you want to do is slow down the mob if it's an eliminate the targets round.
Sure, an object round maybe slowing down the horde of geth for a few seconds...if that causes you to fail, you're doing it wrong.
Manuel La Bor wrote...
I really don't think the farming strat is making them much better at the game. Might inspire more teamwork and cohesion, which I guess is a good thing. But overall, it's just an ez-mode with a few spikes of difficulty.
GordianKnot42 wrote...
Question, since the topic is out there: I haven't done FBWGG since the Retrieval objective has been added. Is there an agreed-upon tactic? Does everyone guard the carrier? Or does one person try to do it clandestinely?
another thread thing described grieving as anything that takes away from someone's experience. dont wanna debate this, but your krysae switch trick is probably on the same level of grieving as thisIAMREALITY wrote...
Someone With Mass wrote...
To be really honest, I'm mostly screwing up out of pure spite.
That is called grieving and you can be banned for it.
Manuel La Bor wrote...
Maybe just play the game instead of relying on grab to do the work for you.
i play u/u/g and wait during the game for people to join...by chance i ended up getting fbwgg. i wanted to bang my head on the wall because ive done my fair share in the past....i got the typical fbwgg group...it is indeed a nightmare. i stood behind the counter and stopped doing objectives because they wouldnt help. i then proceeded to do a dance in a circular motion....nightmareLee80alabama wrote...
GordianKnot42 wrote...
Question, since the topic is out there: I haven't done FBWGG since the Retrieval objective has been added. Is there an agreed-upon tactic? Does everyone guard the carrier? Or does one person try to do it clandestinely?
It's a nightmare for the most part. Like mentioned with farming everyone has a different ideal of how it should be done, and often it just simply doesn't get done. When I see the objective come up I litterally cringe, cause no one is using a mic most of the time...and you don't have time to type out a message. I tend to just stay put and wait and see what everyone else does and try to adjust to it as best I can.
Modifié par landylan, 13 juin 2012 - 04:20 .
Manuel La Bor wrote...
Kick In The Door wrote...
Someone With Mass wrote...
To be really honest, I'm mostly screwing up out of pure spite.
Why? Players who aren't good enough for u/u/g that find their niche in fbwgg and therefore have an easier time getting items while getting better at the game makes you angry?
I'd rather have them learning the ropes on fbwgg then to have them come to reaper gold and screw it up for all of us.
I really don't think the farming strat is making them much better at the game. Might inspire more teamwork and cohesion, which I guess is a good thing. But overall, it's just an ez-mode with a few spikes of difficulty.
Efficient meaning in terms of generating credits. FBWGG allows the players to finish a gold match using fewer consumables and a good team can polish it off in 18-25 minutes. And, yes, easier than other methods too.Drawrof wrote...
Babbylonian wrote...
I'm also confused by the logic of those who try to camp the outside. The best-case scenario is that you get a couple of extra shots on primes before they come back into view of the far inside counter and maybe kill a couple of rocket troopers early, neither of which is particularly useful. It's also perplexing that non-SEs won't switch counters when the action shifts from inside to outside; if outside primes aren't significantly weakened before they make the move to come in, the team is at significant risk that the prime will forget about the decoy and start killing players over cover.
Generally, I'd rather play straight-up U/U/G (though it may take a few failures to find a good team), but if I decide to join into a lobby where FBWGG is selected I absolutely expect the team to use the most efficient strategy. If a team wants to freestyle, there's no point in selecting the farming configuration.
Efficient? You mean easiest. I would say efficient would include speed and there are many faster ways to run fbwgg then camping the lower office. Any strategy that does not attack the spawn but rather waits for a slow enemy match can never be considered efficient.
Modifié par DayusMakhina, 13 juin 2012 - 04:28 .
. I use to die first, and more than others, because don't duck fast enoght, don't see the hunter, or i panic and run away
Modifié par Mekkloood, 13 juin 2012 - 04:30 .
YachiruChin wrote...
Most FBWGG games I play someone camps outside or, if no one does, I go camp outside myself and it works out just fine.....
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