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[thecrunked]

spaceling wrote...

There really is no skill to farming. Sorry if I offend those that think so. That said, I'm thinking that the outsiders don't care to farm, which is why they don't camp inside. It's not about them not knowing how to farm... they just don't want to.

it doesn't take much skill WHEN you do it properly, when farming is done IMPROPERLY it becomes more difficult, especially when you are playing with people not smart enough to follow a SIMPLE plan. if you really don't want to farm but are stuck in the match and don't want to quit, then wouldn't you want to finish it as fast as possible and then get a different match?

if they those people outside don't want to farm, then they shouldn't search FBWGG or back out when the map shows up, that doesn't take skill either.

[IAMREALITY]

landylan wrote...

IAMREALITY wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

To be really honest, I'm mostly screwing up out of pure spite.

That is called grieving and you can be banned for it.

another thread thing described grieving as anything that takes away from someone's experience. dont wanna debate this, but your krysae switch trick is probably on the same level of grieving as this

No, not even close. You want it to be but it's not. It is highly ignorant to declare it such and that's a fact. 99% of people would recognize that. So continue claiming it as you will, but I will ignore any replies that make this idiotic claim...

[spaceling]

Babbylonian wrote...

spaceling wrote...

There really is no skill to farming. Sorry if I offend those that think so. That said, I'm thinking that the outsiders don't care to farm, which is why they don't camp inside. It's not about them not knowing how to farm... they just don't want to.

There's little skill to farming (I don't know who's going around claming it takes a lot).  It also takes little skill for one person to ruin the farm of the other three players.

It's been said before, it'll be said again (including now):  If you don't want to farm FBWGG, leave the lobby.  If you get dropped into a FBWGG farm match in progress (easily identified because the other 3 people will be in the lower room waiting for/killing geth) and don't want to participate, leave the game.

It may take an extra couple minutes to find a non-FBWGG lobby if you don't want to host, but that's little different from any other multiplayer game where server options vary but many people favor a particular setup.

As far as I can tell, your post was made only in an attempt to offend.

If you were offended, then that is on you. Not my intention, because I really don't care. I'm just stating my opinion.

I do have to address something though. You say that if I enter a FBWGG lobby, I should leave if I don't want to farm? Why should I assume that people want to farm and I should leave? That's not a very valid argument. What If I expected farmers to leave and told you so?

Anyway, I'm not here to argue with you. All I am saying is that not everybody wants to farm and just because you enter FBWGG, you can't assume that everyone wants to or should. If you think so, then you should make it clear in the lobby as a team. I think it goes both ways and not just yours.

Modifié par spaceling, 13 juin 2012 - 05:26 .

[spaceling]

thecrunked wrote...

spaceling wrote...

There really is no skill to farming. Sorry if I offend those that think so. That said, I'm thinking that the outsiders don't care to farm, which is why they don't camp inside. It's not about them not knowing how to farm... they just don't want to.

it doesn't take much skill WHEN you do it properly, when farming is done IMPROPERLY it becomes more difficult, especially when you are playing with people not smart enough to follow a SIMPLE plan. if you really don't want to farm but are stuck in the match and don't want to quit, then wouldn't you want to finish it as fast as possible and then get a different match?

if they those people outside don't want to farm, then they shouldn't search FBWGG or back out when the map shows up, that doesn't take skill either.

Just for the record, I know how to do it. I usually choose to play against Cerberus or Reapers, because I usually get stuck in a farming session and rather not. If I do happen to want to do random and get stuck with farmers, I usually stay with the team, because I don't want to be the cowboy that gets killed and nobody revives.

My point is really just to say that some people just don't like to do it. It's their way of rebelling against farmers.

Modifié par spaceling, 13 juin 2012 - 05:27 .

[thecrunked]

spaceling wrote...

thecrunked wrote...

spaceling wrote...

There really is no skill to farming. Sorry if I offend those that think so. That said, I'm thinking that the outsiders don't care to farm, which is why they don't camp inside. It's not about them not knowing how to farm... they just don't want to.

it doesn't take much skill WHEN you do it properly, when farming is done IMPROPERLY it becomes more difficult, especially when you are playing with people not smart enough to follow a SIMPLE plan. if you really don't want to farm but are stuck in the match and don't want to quit, then wouldn't you want to finish it as fast as possible and then get a different match?

if they those people outside don't want to farm, then they shouldn't search FBWGG or back out when the map shows up, that doesn't take skill either.

Just for the record, I know how to do it. I usually choose to play against Cerberus or Reapers, because I usually get stuck in a farming session and rather not. If I do happen to want to do random and get stuck with farmers, I usually stay with the team, because I don't want to be the cowboy that gets killed and nobody revives.

My point is really just to say that some people just don't like to do it. It's their way of rebelling against farmers.

makes sense, but if you can't find a match you like there is always an option to host... just sayin

[spaceling]

thecrunked wrote...

spaceling wrote...

thecrunked wrote...

spaceling wrote...

There really is no skill to farming. Sorry if I offend those that think so. That said, I'm thinking that the outsiders don't care to farm, which is why they don't camp inside. It's not about them not knowing how to farm... they just don't want to.

it doesn't take much skill WHEN you do it properly, when farming is done IMPROPERLY it becomes more difficult, especially when you are playing with people not smart enough to follow a SIMPLE plan. if you really don't want to farm but are stuck in the match and don't want to quit, then wouldn't you want to finish it as fast as possible and then get a different match?

if they those people outside don't want to farm, then they shouldn't search FBWGG or back out when the map shows up, that doesn't take skill either.

Just for the record, I know how to do it. I usually choose to play against Cerberus or Reapers, because I usually get stuck in a farming session and rather not. If I do happen to want to do random and get stuck with farmers, I usually stay with the team, because I don't want to be the cowboy that gets killed and nobody revives.

My point is really just to say that some people just don't like to do it. It's their way of rebelling against farmers.

makes sense, but if you can't find a match you like there is always an option to host... just sayin

I agree. That's what I do... or I choose to play Cerberus, Reapers, or a specific map.

[UEG Donkey]

Who says you can't sit outside on FBWGG? If you have an infiltrator or tank character that doesn't go down why not? There isn't much space behind the counter and if some one is already outside when I jump in a game I usually grab a spot inside and take a nap until objective rounds. I mean FFS if you can't dubs or solo a FBWGG, you probably shouldn't be on the forums ****ing about it.

[Ravenear]

Few days ago i was playing FWGG and 1 noob stayed upstairs 3 rounds(and in each round he died almost instant) in 4 round he left team becouse nobady was so stuipd to go up and rez him. We told him to go down to us but some people have biger ego than charging mele krogan on banshe

[Kel Riever]

If people are allowed to hide behind a counter and punch pyros all day long, I am allowed to run around the map and have my own fun. So...

Modifié par Kel Riever, 13 juin 2012 - 05:53 .

[thecrunked]

UEG Donkey wrote...

i didn't read your OP, i appologize for my words

fixed...

[xROLLxTIDEx]

thecrunked wrote...

UEG Donkey wrote...

i didn't read your OP, i appologize for my words

fixed...

Donkey is a good guy and a good player.  He isn't the one starting threads on this forum calling people idiots.

[dysturbed0ne]

When I want to farm for some credits on FBW I always post up on the L-shape barriers outside with my QMI/GI and Krysae. When I'm out there very few enemies even make it the side entrance...including primes, they only make it when they come down the steps in pairs. lately I have watched 3 players fall apart in the room only having to deal with what comes down the stairs. Player X is down....Player Y is down....lol...I'm like really?? You know it's pretty bad when I have to worry about getting flanked from the back door of the bottom room.

As long as everyone is going into the match with the ability to deal some damage, I don't worry about how people play....I know I can hold my own.

[Halo Quea]

The one thing that everyone is missing is it doesn't matter how easy, simple, boring or stupid farming on FBWGG is. It still requires one thing...............COOPERATION.

And if you are one of those players who doesn't like to work with others, leave the game and play FBWGG on your own.

The solution for the rest of us is simply stop playing ANY Gold maps with randoms.

[thecrunked]

I will say this tho, The only time it is acceptable (IMO) to sit outside behind cover is if your are an infiltrator and you have a Geth Engi with a healing turret that constantly decloaks you.

[Kel Riever]

Halo Quea wrote...

The one thing that everyone is missing is it doesn't matter how easy, simple, boring or stupid farming on FBWGG is. It still requires one thing...............COOPERATION.

And if you are one of those players who doesn't like to work with others, leave the game and play FBWGG on your own.

The solution for the rest of us is simply stop playing ANY Gold maps with randoms.

You leave. Its a public game.

Or of course,like you say, set up a private game. Actually, that is the way anyone who wants someone else to play a particular way should do it.

Private games make everyone happy.  You just actually have to have 3 friends to do it with.

And anyone who can't make 3 friends...I promise you....FBWGG is the least of your problems

Modifié par Kel Riever, 13 juin 2012 - 06:18 .

[UEG Donkey]

thecrunked wrote...

I will say this tho, I'm bad at this game but because I have lived a sheltered life and mommy tells me I'm the best at everything I have conceived the notion that I am the arbiter of what acceptable play should be

fixed

[ToaOrka]

I've found that Snipers outside on the divider near the ammo box can be very helpful in thinning out the numbers that actually get inside, especially if they know what they're doing. And really, you aren't going to get any love or support for even mentioning FBW/G/G on these forums. It's like a noob plague.

[Biotic_Warlock]

Maybe because they have sense and aren't farmers...

[Princess Rolf]

Farm or go to another lobby.

[Moronic Anger]

Kel Riever wrote...

If people are allowed to hide behind a counter and punch pyros all day long, I am allowed to run around the map and have my own fun. So...

Exactly, oh and with a revanent running around the map with a krogan or batarian on gold is pretty fun,

[CmnDwnWrkn]

I was actually thinking about making this EXACT thread last night after a particularly botched farming session.

[Mandalore313]

I usually run around the map killing everything I see, messing up spawns for the cowards sitting behind the counter.

I also fire all 5 of my rockets on them while they are there to let them I know I dislike them.

[ElementL09]

Lee80alabama wrote...

I'm thinking it's people who here the elitist talk about how easy FBWGG is, (which to be fair at one time it really was so easy you could do it in your sleep) and have decided they can do it no matter their skill level. This is not actually the case.

The adjustments made to the enemies (while not a significant change to good players) has made the difficulty go up a great deal. Add to that, not everyone even knows what the proper strategy is, and there are in fact more then one of them floating around. (camping at the top, camping in the room, camping in the room plus one sniper outside the room camped behind the L shaped barrier).

The biggest issue I see with farmers now is not many of them want to use a Salarian Eng. And when they do they do it wrong. The SE is not supposed to be running towards the enemies shooting them with the Krysae. He's supposed to be behind a counter putting out his decoy, and spamming energy drain. If they have time between all that-sure go ahead and shoot something...but the other 2 are the priority.

That is the biggest issue, people don't know the proper strategy, I see salarian engineers putting decoys in like the wierdest places and I've seen infiltrators not even go for objectives, and I've seen people who weren't even with the group get constantly downed, complains about not getting help and then complains about how were camping (which we are yes, but its better to camp on this map then run and gun).

[clarkusdarkus]

i blame the geth for being more difficult

[thecrunked]

Mandalore313 wrote...

I usually run around the map killing everything I see, messing up spawns for the cowards sitting behind the counter.

I also fire all 5 of my rockets on them while they are there to let them I know I dislike them.

This is getting annoying. Nobody here is talking about normal play vs farming. This is a discussion about annoying people who don't know how to farm, not people who are against farming so they try to mess it up for others. The scenario in my OP is for when everyone is in agreement to farm thus not being forced to. if you're going to farm FBWGG, YOU MIGHT AS WELL DO IT RIGHT.

For all of the anti farming cry babies, there is a simple solution DON'T PLAY FBWGG in pugs. Besides, shouldn't you be creating topics about nerfing everything right now anyways?

Modifié par thecrunked, 13 juin 2012 - 07:22 .