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[Eternal Phoenix]

Bioware wanted elves to look unique rather than like smaller humans with pointed ears but then they produced those weird ugly looking elves. I would prefer if elves in DA3 looked more like the elves from the Forgotten Realms. Look at Neverwinter Nights for example, elves are smaller than humans, skinnier and their facial features are more exotic. Here are some elf portraits from NWN:

  

 
 
And one from BG2:

 

I think this is the route Bioware was trying to go with DA2 but the elves turned out weird looking...well at least most of them. Merill and Fenris looked good.

Good Elves:

Kingdom Under Fire....




Warhammer...





Neverwinter Nights...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bad Elves:

Dragon Age 3...

 








Morrowind...



Oblivion...





Skyrim...



The Witcher 1:

 

http://images2.wikia...Half-elf_quest 

 

Overlord Series...







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The elves from Warhammer and Neverwinter Nights do NOT match the typical Tolkien elf. I wouldn't exactly call some of those elves divine in their beauty but they don't look ugly either. They look believable and easy on the eyes. The Warhammer elves have thin facial structure and their features are sort of eastern in appearance but they have golden long hair. The Neverwinter Nights elves (Forgotten Realms) all look different due to the different races of elves but again none of them fit the Tolkien standard and one even has an animal like nose and is more similar in appearance to the Na'vi from Avatar. Meanwhile we have some elves who have cat-like eyes.

Dragon Age 2 elves look more like the Overlord 2 elves and the funny thing is, is that Overlord 2 was PARODYING the typical elf design. Throughout the entire series, elves are mocked along with other fantasy cliches such as dwarves who are depicted as being drunken miners who have access to bombs and other explosive stuff.

Conclusion:

DA2 elf:

 
 

Overlord 2 elf (game taking the **** out of the typical elf design):



Yeah. The elves of Dragon Age 2 aren't really that unique...

 

Another game (I believe it's an MMO) with elves that look DA2 styled.

Well at least Overlord 2 and the MMO game above give the elves better faces...

You can clearly see which are the unique looking elves and which aren't. It's not the DA2 elves that's for sure. They're just uglier versions of already set stereotype typical elves found in games that aren't inspired by Tolkien elves. These games and universes have deliberately gone out of their way to distort elves. The results as you've witnesses weren't exactly good.

Meanwhile the games and universes which were inspired by Tolkien's elves (or simply didn't deliberately go out of their way to distort elves) have elves that don't look Tolkien like at all but rather unique and pretty well designed.

I mean where has this craze come from about wanting to distort the elves and make them look less Tolkien like as possible? Tolkien made the elves we see today (the elves before LOTR were faeries) so either use them as they should be used or give them another name and don't associate them with elves. Yet having said that, you can make elves non-tolkien like and have them unique and well designed but please remember, that the pointy ears still came from Tolkien elves if memory serves me correct and therefore DA2 elves are still losely inspired by Tolkien elves however you look at it.

If we go by Bioware's logic then shouldn't humans be getting a redesign too?

Dragon Age 3 New Human Design:

Modifié par Elton John is dead, 14 août 2012 - 03:02 .

[GodWood]

I actually liked just having elves being small, lithe humans with pointy ears.

I guess I'm just weird.

[whykikyouwhy]

Elves should look exactly like Bioware wants them to look.

[zyntifox]

GodWood wrote...

I actually liked just having elves being small, lithe humans with pointy ears.

I guess I'm just weird.

I agree. Not that you being wierd, which may or may not be the case, but elves looking like a small framed humans with pointy ears.

[mousestalker]

Elves should look exactly as they really appear. Bioware should start using live models for their humans, elves and dwarves instead of artist depictions.

[The Six Path of Pain]

GodWood wrote...

I actually liked just having elves being small, lithe humans with pointy ears.

I guess I'm just weird.

I agree,though some elves did look good with the new design.But when I saw Zevran I was like "What have they done to you!".But I doubt they'll go back to being little humans with pointy ears...I heard they are using the Frostbite engine for the next game,if true hopefully that will help the new elf look.

[Leonia]

whykikyouwhy wrote...

Elves should look exactly like Bioware wants them to look.

This.

Let them design their game the way they see fit, eh?

[C9316]

Yay for smaller humans with pointy ears!

[Seagloom]

Forgotten Realms elves are as tall as humans with human-like visages. NWN actually got that aspect wrong. So did NWN2, as was eventually acknowledged by Obsidian staff. They wanted to go back and correct it; but the game was too far along in development by then to make that a realistic option.

What you are basically asking for is taller DAO elves.

Modifié par Seagloom, 13 juin 2012 - 05:12 .

[Xewaka]

Since part of the art revamp DA2 went through was specifically to try to distance the Dragon Age setting from straight tolkienian fantasy, I doubt they'd do that kind of makeover.
Though one wonders why, if they wanted to stray away from generic tolkienian fantasy, they went for high magic, medieval stasis, elves and dorfs in the first place.

[Apollo Starflare]

leonia42 wrote...

whykikyouwhy wrote...

Elves should look exactly like Bioware wants them to look.

This.

Let them design their game the way they see fit, eh?

Indeed.

Personally, I like the DA2 Elves. 

[LilyasAvalon]

GodWood wrote...

I actually liked just having elves being small, lithe humans with pointy ears.

I guess I'm just weird.

Then I'm weird too, mate...

We'll all be weird together~

[Cutlasskiwi]

Apollo Starflare wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

whykikyouwhy wrote...

Elves should look exactly like Bioware wants them to look.

This.

Let them design their game the way they see fit, eh?

Indeed.

Personally, I like the DA2 Elves. 

I can only agree with all of this.

My only wish is that they dont force the poor characters into that clown makeup this time around. 

[cindercatz]

Yeah, I like the images OP. That's kind of how I designed my elves in DA:O. The elves in DA2 don't look like elves, they look like Halla, and that's bad. Elves are supposed to be the more lithe, agile of the races, more predatory in appearance and otherwise very human-like (seen as popularly beautiful and desirable, even as humans abuse them). The elves in DA2 look like prey species, clumsy, big headed for their bodies, weaker limbed, without true stereoscopic vision, what with their eyes being pulled to the side and their nose being pulled forward.

Elves are predators, not prey. I vote they redesign them again. They don't have to look just like humans, but I really, really hope they don't look like DA2.

[Brockololly]

Cool elves:

[AkiKishi]

The guy on the right there reminds me of a Japanese Samurai painting...

I'd go with something like Iorveth, the elves in DA2 looked very off.

[FieryDove]

Brockololly wrote...

Cool elves:

Sigh...

Oh and

[Eternal Phoenix]

GodWood wrote...

I actually liked just having elves being small, lithe humans with pointy ears.

Me too but I think BW made it clear that they aren't going back to that design. True BW can make the elves and humans look like what they want but when you get guys looking like the guys below then you really have to question BW...

 
 

 

 
 
 

 

 

"You want me to ***** slap yo ugly ass face?"
 

 

Modifié par Elton John is dead, 13 juin 2012 - 07:22 .

[CuriousArtemis]

I love my DA:O elves. They so cute and small, but yet fierce and ofc very good warriors/hunters. So we get the cuteness/pretty factor along with the bad ass factor, which is what an elf should be.

Now I love Fenris; he's very cute, BUT -- the DA2 elves are just bizarre, with their huge bulbous heads, extra long necks, and ultra petite frames (Merrill's arms make me uncomfortable).

Good effort but something just went wrong.

I do NOT want ultra masculine square-jawed hairy-faced elves.

[mya11]

I hate the look elves for Dragon age 2, so ugly and horrible, I prefer the look for dragon age origins and the look of Iorveth he is more sexy ^^

[MichaelStuart]

I hate when elves are basically humans with pointy ears.
The only elves I like are the kind in folklore. The Fey creatures that lived in the woods and under hills and kidnap people.

Modifié par MichaelStuart, 13 juin 2012 - 08:20 .

[Truth]

Brockololly wrote...

Cool elves:

This guy... listen to him.

[Seagloom]

MichaelStuart wrote...

I hate when elves are basically humans with pointy ears.
The only elves I like are the kind in folklore. The Fey creatures that lived in the woods and under hills and kidnap people.

Indeed. Norse elves and various fairy folk from other lands shall always reign supreme IMO. A shame they never get their due in fantasy games. Instead we always end up with the bland as rocks Tolkien inspired variety.