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When did this turn into elven porn?

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Faerunner you still there? My last question still stands to be answered?

Anyway another question do you think BioWare intended the designs to look like this;
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MisterJB what elven porn are you referring to?

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MisterJB wrote...

When did this turn into elven porn?


Wht? I see no elven porn?:innocent:

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Man I hate being ignored.... (sigh) so lonely.... and cold.....:crying: Don't leave me...  i'm scared.....

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LoL BioWare can't fool us.... Fae do you think BioWare is reading these forums? I wanted to post something on the idea page for Dragon Age 3, but I was too late... (sigh) Only two people said let us play elves and dwarves again, but I don't think BioWare got the message... All he said was "Oh you want more customisation?" No you idiot I want my elves without your ET models...


This doesn't bode well. Image IPB

I think they do. The developers seem to turn up in random threads to answer questions, post comments or even lock threads they find offensive or irrelevent from time to time, so I think they're paying attention. (They seem to be more active in the Game Owner Thread though, which I guess makes sense.)

I'm very disappointed with how few people request race options or ask to tweak the elves' design again. From what I gather, the developers haven't given up on race options completely, but they also won't start spending the time, money or resources to officially implement them into the game unless or until they feel the cost will be worth it. I keep posting in the forums hoping against hope that they'll consider...

Could you possibly send a link to this thread?

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I actually thought DA2's Marethari was hotter. As was Merrill. Admittedly, Zevran didn't fare as well, but the original Zevran wasn't really all that handsome either.

I wouldn't deride the appearance of the Overlord elves, since those games are parodies and the elves in that setting are just lame hippies.

Modifié par thats1evildude, 20 juillet 2012 - 12:19 .


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Elves should look exactly like Bioware wants them to look.


Fanboy alert.

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Anatomy isn't porn, it's ART! But since you mention it.... Here you go.... Elven Love for everyone!:wub:


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This Picture is super... if I could draw so cool... I would make money with my talent..

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thats1evildude wrote...

I wouldn't deride the appearance of the Overlord elves, since those games are parodies and the elves in that setting are just lame hippies.


We know. Elton John is dead acknoweldged in his post that Overlord elves are intentionally exaggerated, unattractive, over-the-top parodies of the modern elf sterotype. The problem is that DA2 elves aren't (or if they are supposed to be, it's very poorly conveyed). We're told seriously over and over through different games and forms of media that most Thedas humans find most Thedas elves to be alluring or attractive, yet making 99% of the race look... ugh, just suspends disbelief.

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Mr. Schaeuble wrote...

This Picture is super... if I could draw so cool... I would make money with my talent..


Alot of artists just do it because they can, I think everyone could do their own different version if they practiced. Many freelance artists have no jobs, I know because i'm one lol. It's hard to get anything these days...

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Faerunner wrote...

thats1evildude wrote...

I wouldn't deride the appearance of the Overlord elves, since those games are parodies and the elves in that setting are just lame hippies.


We know. Elton John is dead acknowledged in his post that Overlord elves are intentionally exaggerated, unattractive, over-the-top parodies of the modern elf sterotype. The problem is that DA2 elves aren't (or if they are supposed to be, it's very poorly conveyed). We're told seriously over and over through different games and forms of media that most Thedas humans find most Thedas elves to be alluring or attractive, yet making 99% of the race look... ugh, just suspends disbelief.


Faerunner lol, this is what BioWare and EA would do to Tolkien if they had power over his elven models :devil:

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Faerunner wrote...

thats1evildude wrote...

I wouldn't deride the appearance of the Overlord elves, since those games are parodies and the elves in that setting are just lame hippies.


We know. Whoever posted the Overlord elves acknoweldged that they are intentionally exaggerated, unattractive, over-the-top parodies of the modern elf sterotype. The problem is that DA2 elves aren't (or if they are supposed to be, it's very poorly conveyed). We're told seriously over and over through different games and forms of media that most Thedas humans find most Thedas elves to be alluring or attractive, yet making 99% of the race look... ugh, just suspends disbelief.


You're assuming that Thedasian standards of attractiveness are the same as ours. I thought the elves were only mentioned as "attractive" to humans...once in a codex entry....

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Makes me want to throw up my internal organs:sick:............

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Alexandrine Delassixe wrote...

Faerunner wrote...

thats1evildude wrote...

I wouldn't deride the appearance of the Overlord elves, since those games are parodies and the elves in that setting are just lame hippies.


We know. Whoever posted the Overlord elves acknoweldged that they are intentionally exaggerated, unattractive, over-the-top parodies of the modern elf sterotype. The problem is that DA2 elves aren't (or if they are supposed to be, it's very poorly conveyed). We're told seriously over and over through different games and forms of media that most Thedas humans find most Thedas elves to be alluring or attractive, yet making 99% of the race look... ugh, just suspends disbelief.


You're assuming that Thedasian standards of attractiveness are the same as ours. I thought the elves were only mentioned as "attractive" to humans...once in a codex entry....



Nobody is asking for super models, we just don't want ugly.... :whistle: Wait i'm talking rubbish! We want super models!

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Nobody is asking for super models, we just don't want ugly.... :whistle: Wait i'm talking rubbish! We want super models!


Human --> Supermodels
Elves --> Supermodels
Dwarven males --> no1curr
Dwarven females --> to exist at all  Supermodels

Asking for more brown npcs is forcing personal preference. Lawl

I think the elves look alright. I couldn't image my Surana or Mahariel with these changes but...they could be worse.

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Alexandrine Delassixe wrote...

Faerunner wrote...

thats1evildude wrote...

I wouldn't deride the appearance of the Overlord elves, since those games are parodies and the elves in that setting are just lame hippies.


We know. Whoever posted the Overlord elves acknoweldged that they are intentionally exaggerated, unattractive, over-the-top parodies of the modern elf sterotype. The problem is that DA2 elves aren't (or if they are supposed to be, it's very poorly conveyed). We're told seriously over and over through different games and forms of media that most Thedas humans find most Thedas elves to be alluring or attractive, yet making 99% of the race look... ugh, just suspends disbelief.


You're assuming that Thedasian standards of attractiveness are the same as ours. I thought the elves were only mentioned as "attractive" to humans...once in a codex entry....


Thedasian humans find each other attractive, don't they? Should we change human designs to be more like elves to fit the new standard of attractiveness?

It's mentioned multiple times over many different occasions, not just one codex entry. Leliana will tell an elven Warden that well-trained elven servants are highly valued in Orlais, partly because they are "pleasing to look at." Zevran will reveal that the Crows like to pick up elven recruits because humans find elves attractive, therefore it's easier to seduce them, therefore it's easier to kill them. In DA2 the magistrate's son abducts and kills elven children because he considers it "not fair that they're born so beautiful" (on top of his own violence and insanity), with not a hint of irony. There are many other little comments sprinkled here and there throughout the franchise, and the new designs just seem to contradict it.

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Alexandrine Delassixe wrote...

Lord Athena wrote...

Nobody is asking for super models, we just don't want ugly.... :whistle: Wait i'm talking rubbish! We want super models!


Human --> Supermodels
Elves --> Supermodels
Dwarven males --> no1curr
Dwarven females --> to exist at all  Supermodels

Asking for more brown npcs is forcing personal preference. Lawl

I think the elves look alright. I couldn't image my Surana or Mahariel with these changes but...they could be worse.


Would you want your movie stars to be all ugly.... Answer no, you would want at least decent actors, same goes to the game models, espically the elves they must look 100% better than anyone. Ask yourself this? If your life-span was 50 years you wouldn't give a penny if you had a beard and you smelled of dog meat... If your immortal you have to look after your apperance....

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 Faerunner got the forum your looking for 

http://social.biowar.../index/12048035

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Anyway another question do you think BioWare intended the designs to look like this;
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I can't say. DA:O and DA:A? Sure, maybe. I would hope so.

Thanks to the new DA2 designs and the devs' intention to keep them? I just don't know.

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Faerunner wrote...


Thedasian humans find each other attractive, don't they? Should we change human designs to be more like elves to fit the new standard of attractiveness?

It's mentioned multiple times over many different occasions, not just one codex entry. Leliana will tell an elven Warden that well-trained elven servants are highly valued in Orlais, partly because they are "pleasing to look at." Zevran will reveal that the Crows like to pick up elven recruits because humans find elves attractive, therefore it's easier to seduce them, therefore it's easier to kill them. In DA2 the magistrate's son abducts and kills elven children because he considers it "not fair that they're born so beautiful" (on top of his own violence and insanity), with not a hint of irony. There are many other little comments sprinkled here and there throughout the franchise, and the new designs just seem to contradict it.



So...every Thedasian human finds every other Thedasian human attractive?  Not EVERY human could possibly think elves are beautiful. And why do you assume that humans find elves attractive in the same way that they find other humans attractive? 


Edit: Now, I'm not trying to argumentative. Just so you know.

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Would you want your movie stars to be all ugly.... Answer no, you would want at least decent actors, same goes to the game models, espically the elves they must look 100% better than anyone. Ask yourself this? If your life-span was 50 years you wouldn't give a penny if you had a beard and you smelled of dog meat... If your immortal you have to look after your apperance....


Yeah, I really don't care. Hollywood has it's own problems I tend not to take what they find "beautiful" at face value.
You lost me on the rest of that though.

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Alexandrine Delassixe wrote...

Faerunner wrote...


Thedasian humans find each other attractive, don't they? Should we change human designs to be more like elves to fit the new standard of attractiveness?

It's mentioned multiple times over many different occasions, not just one codex entry. Leliana will tell an elven Warden that well-trained elven servants are highly valued in Orlais, partly because they are "pleasing to look at." Zevran will reveal that the Crows like to pick up elven recruits because humans find elves attractive, therefore it's easier to seduce them, therefore it's easier to kill them. In DA2 the magistrate's son abducts and kills elven children because he considers it "not fair that they're born so beautiful" (on top of his own violence and insanity), with not a hint of irony. There are many other little comments sprinkled here and there throughout the franchise, and the new designs just seem to contradict it.



So...every Thedasian human finds every other Thedasian human attractive?  Not EVERY human could possibly think elves are beautiful. And why do you assume that humans find elves attractive in the same way that they find other humans attractive? 




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Would you want your movie stars to be all ugly.... Answer no, you would want at least decent actors, same goes to the game models, espically the elves they must look 100% better than anyone. Ask yourself this? If your life-span was 50 years you wouldn't give a penny if you had a beard and you smelled of dog meat... If your immortal you have to look after your apperance....


Yeah, I really don't care. Hollywood has it's own problems I tend not to take what they find "beautiful" at face value.
You lost me on the rest of that though.


Because Humans in reality envey all people that having something they don't. Some people do horrible things to people that have beauty, like cutting their hair and sometimes throwing acid on their faces or stabbing them to deathin the wood, also rape is a common one. If there was someone better you in everyway you know you would be jealous....

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Faerunner got a copy of the post on that forum about elves.

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Why are elves so short? I hate being short, but love being an Elf. I am tall, I like being tall... let me be tall and an elf... and would it be hard to make elves look normal again?

Seriously though anything about cultural distinction would be awesome. Why are the Tevinter people jerks, the Orlesians ****s, the Ferelden smelly dog people, the Rivaini people pirate ****s, the Antivan people ****s who'll stab you in the back for funzies?

Seriously I want to know this, right now they seem kinda one dimensional and I want to know more about them so they'll stop being so cut and dry.

And can we bring back some Native American flair to the Elves, I would love that.

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opps repeated myself sorry

Modifié par Lord Athena, 20 juillet 2012 - 01:13 .