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[hussey 92]

leonia42 wrote...

whykikyouwhy wrote...

Elves should look exactly like Bioware wants them to look.

This.

Let them design their game the way they see fit, eh?

I see nothing wrong with posting constructive critisism on a forum.  

[whykikyouwhy]

Faerunner wrote...

They may be the ones designing them, but we're the ones staring at them for 40+ hours, and paying for it too.

If Bioware is comfortable asking us to buy a game full of hideous elves that they know many of us are going to hate, then we feel comfortable asking them to please make the said elves more pleasing to look at. (True, they don't have to listen and we don't have to buy their next game, but we want to like it so we figure it doesn't hurt to at least ask.)

"Hideous" is subjective. Some people didn't care for the look of the elves in DA2, and some people were quite fond of their appearance. I'm sure that Bioware has heard the criticism already (since this very subject has been rolling around for well over a year) - and will take into account the concerns on this and other elements of the game, as well as the praise for things that folks have said they did like and enjoy.

I trust Bioware will do their best to deliver a good story and a good game. But no matter what, there will always be game elements that people will be divided on. 

[Chiramu]

NO!

Why, because as soon as someone shows a little teensy-weensy bit of creativity and try to break the mould of what an elf can be, [people] go around and say they're ugly. [I respectfully disagree.]

The DA2 elves are excellent because they are finally Dragon Age exclusive elves. They don't get confused with any other elves because they're different!

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Modifié par Ninja Stan, 15 juin 2012 - 05:29 .

[hussey 92]

Chiramu wrote...

NO!

Why, because as soon as someone shows a little teensy-weensy bit of creativity and try to break the mould of what an elf can be, idiots go around and say they're ugly. Well, people that don't like the new elves, why don't you look in the mirror or get a partner irl?! If you're so obsessed at having a character that looks exactly like Galadriel then you obviously need to start thinking about your own personal appearance.

The DA2 elves are excellent because they are finally Dragon Age exclusive elves. They don't get confused with any other elves because they're different!

So STFU.

Dragon Age exclusive elves?  They look like there from the Avatar.

And breaking away from the norm is only an accomplishment if it ends up being better than the norm.

Modifié par hussey 92, 13 juin 2012 - 09:34 .

[fchopin]

Elton John is dead wrote...

GodWood wrote...

I actually liked just having elves being small, lithe humans with pointy ears.

Me too but I think BW made it clear that they aren't going back to that design. True BW can make the elves and humans look like what they want but when you get guys looking like the guys below then you really have to question BW...

 
 

 

 
 
 

 

 

"You want me to ***** slap yo ugly ass face?"
 

 

Please stop posting the ugly elves, i want to sleep tonight.

[dheer]

Brockololly wrote...

Cool elves:

Indeed. Iorveth's design was fantastic. Not just a human with pointy ears and doesn't have a nasion resembling a donkey or horse similar to DA2.

[TEWR]

This topic again? Meh....

 

I liked these two. Orana looks exactly like I'd imagine an Elven slave would -- kinda malnourished, needing a good meal and a nice home -- save for the clown make-up.

That girl in the second pic is just fine to me. Her skin looks like ****, but I think that's due to the saar-qamek.

 

Animation issue and not a problem with the actual design.

 

Furniture people are not representative of the actual design.

Furniture people are representative of time constraints, an engine that probably can't support a lifelike city, and maybe even resource issues.

 

These two were ugly as sin, that I'll grant. Well... Nyssa wouldn't have been too bad if she had a different -- and more feminine -- hairstyle suitable for her age IMO.

But you're always going to have ugly people. No one race is comprised of 100% beautiful people. There are a few examples of Elves in Denerim alone that I find atrocious.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 13 juin 2012 - 10:49 .

[SinnSly]

Elves looked fine in DA2 for me.. DAO they sucked.

Merrill looked so much better in DA2 than in DAO, so much more adorable too.

Modifié par SinnSly, 13 juin 2012 - 10:46 .

[LolaLei]

I always imagined Elves to be tall, slender and graceful looking... kinda like the ones in LoTR.

[Blastback]

LilyasAvalon wrote...

GodWood wrote...

I actually liked just having elves being small, lithe humans with pointy ears.

I guess I'm just weird.

Then I'm weird too, mate...

We'll all be weird together~

I thought it fit,  the image society had of them as a week lower class.

[hussey 92]

SinnSly wrote...

Elves looked fine in DA2 for me.. DAO they sucked.

Merrill looked so much better in DA2 than in DAO, so much more adorable too.

The elves were great in the first game, they never should have chnaged them.

And Merrill wasn't meant to be adorable in Origins she was almost a completly different character

Modifié par hussey 92, 14 juin 2012 - 01:21 .

[hussey 92]

Rojahar wrote...

I like my non-humans to look non-human. CrAzY, right?

But elfs are a humaniod race

[Mmw04014]

I just wish game designers would stop making such drastic design changes. Fine, they thought the elves weren't distinct enough. They could have made more subtle changes that kept the spirit of what the elves were like in Origins but still trying to set them apart. Instead it seemed that they plopped a Na'vi head on every elf body, which to me, makes them anything but unique.

[Zanallen]

hussey 92 wrote...

Rojahar wrote...

I like my non-humans to look non-human. CrAzY, right?

But elfs are a humaniod race

Humanoid generally just refers to creatures with a head, torso, two arms and two legs.

[Realmzmaster]

Zanallen wrote...

hussey 92 wrote...

Rojahar wrote...

I like my non-humans to look non-human. CrAzY, right?

But elfs are a humaniod race

Humanoid generally just refers to creatures with a head, torso, two arms and two legs.

 The creature has to have human like characteristics like opposable appendages, the ability to walk upright etc. The physical appearance of those humaniods can vary. So you can have fat,ugly elves just like you can have fat ugly humans.

[Zanallen]

Realmzmaster wrote...

The creature has to have human like characteristics like opposable appendages, the ability to walk upright etc. The physical appearance of those humaniods can vary. So you can have fat,ugly elves just like you can have fat ugly humans.

You can also have horns, tails, wings, etc. The kossith are humanoid, the darkspawn are humanoid (Well, potentially not counting the new genlocks), almost all of the Star Trek aliens are humanoid, the Lizard from Spider-Man is humanoid, golems are humanoid, several pokemon are humanoid, so on and so forth.

[TEWR]

hussey 92 wrote...

SinnSly wrote...

Elves looked fine in DA2 for me.. DAO they sucked.

Merrill looked so much better in DA2 than in DAO, so much more adorable too.

The elves were great in the first game, they never should have chnaged them.

And Merrill wasn't meant to be adorable in Origins she was almost a completly different character

Merrill's personality in the clan is consistent in both games. She's confident when amongst her clan, telling Ilen that the clan needs to shove their fear of the old ways up their ass, Paivel that she'll leave soon enough and he shouldn't "get his knickers in a twist", and getting pissed off at Marethari upon hearing what baseless lies the Keeper spread about her prior to her Act II quest.

And Merrill displays enough savvy of how the world works -- even if her knowledge of how the world speaks is shaky -- for me to personally say that not much changed between the two games.

She has a great deal of culture shock, but she understands why she needs to go to Kirkwall. Alone, she'd eventually be killed. In Kirkwall, she can blend in to the crowd.

Merrill in DAO didn't display culture shock because there was no outside culture for her to be shocked from. Throughout DAO's DE Origin, she's within one culture: the Dalish. And I'd expect her to be confused by the culture she's now a part of, considering the only people that deal with the humans regularly are the Dalish like Ilen and Varathorn.

The only thing that's really changed is how she says she's never seen a human before, but then goes on to tell Anders she met Duncan.

Unless Duncan is an OGB or the beard makes him something non-human entirely, that was a pretty bad slip-up on the part of the devs. Negligible, but nevertheless bad.

[wsandista]

I agree that the elves look worse in DA2. Maybe they should take a look at the Witcher (that seems to be said a lot recently doesn't it), the elves looked different enough from humans, but didn't look like aliens, rats, or donkeys.

[Ihatebadgames]

MichaelStuart wrote...

I hate when elves are basically humans with pointy ears.
The only elves I like are the kind in folklore. The Fey creatures that lived in the woods and under hills and kidnap people.

I like the DA:O and BG,BG2 and BGToB elves,I never minded the Fairies and other small folk just not in the top.
Hate the DA 2 saw the ears and went Hehaw.Hate the Artistic donkey ears.
Edit forgot a word

Modifié par Ihatebadgames, 14 juin 2012 - 03:56 .

[craigdolphin]

LilyasAvalon wrote...

GodWood wrote...

I actually liked just having elves being small, lithe humans with pointy ears.

I guess I'm just weird.

Then I'm weird too, mate...

We'll all be weird together~

Another wierdo here. 

[wsandista]

craigdolphin wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

GodWood wrote...

I actually liked just having elves being small, lithe humans with pointy ears.

I guess I'm just weird.

Then I'm weird too, mate...

We'll all be weird together~

Another wierdo here. 

Quite a bit of us weirdos hereB)

[Lotion Soronarr]

Only a few of the elves in DA2 actually look OK-ish.