RGFrog wrote...
Lord Rosario wrote...
@RGFrog
Read the rest of your post and your point goes out the window with a few counter points.
A-Widow is a slow, single shot sniper. The Valiant, Black Widow, Krysae [even with the nerfs], Indra, and probably some others outperform the widow because they fire more than one round, therefore doing more damage.
B-Powers. Shooting your gun should not be the only thing you are doing. Use those other two powers that come with the class and you suddenly become twice as damaging.
C-You have team mates. Your calculations all assume you are alone on gold, and frankly, you aren't going to do even a 30 minute run on gold alone with a widow.
D-Missiles. Nuff said.
Sure, all your points are valid where my point that I play alone. My point was that I can't play alone and therefor the OP cry is for the extreme player not the normal.
Most players don't have the Valiant, I don't even have a Black Widow, and my Krysae is at lvl 1 not 10. The Widow is the most powerful weapon I have and only handful of players have better.
So, yeah, peeps with the best lvl X weapons are going to seem fairly powerful. Isn't that the point of an X level weapon on any character?
And your points pretty much confirm that my SI, being a normal player, is not that OP since he requires team mates...
So, is a single shot fairly powerful from my SI with its Widow X, yep. Am I shooting it as if it were a Revenant X or a GPR? No.
Do I have Adren Rush and a weapon that empties a clip rather quickly? No.
So how OP am I as an SI using TC in the same amount of time compared to a Soldier using Adren. Rush? That's the real measure.
I've seen the original post's claims that the bonuses are too high. But what are the real numbers compaired to other classes? How much damage in 3.5 seconds does a Turian Soldier do with Marksman? Does it negate all damage due to the shield gate like it does for the SI? Because the SI is not effective until the shield gate is null'd.
I do know this. A pair of Turian Soldiers with Marksman and Revenants owned the 3 matches I played with them in gold. As an inf. all I could do was clean up some of the trash, revive, and take care of the objectives. I was in no way OP. My single shots were pretty much useless and only really counted if I waited until just the right moments to steal a kill or two.
But yeah, IF i had a Krysae or Black Widow X ... so the real point is not that the Inf. is OP The real point is that Inf can make the best use of weapons that are intended to be OP as they are X level.
And I guess the Inf. gets some time between to dodge around whereas everyone else has to spam the trigger or casting buttons...
I don't want to sound mean.. but really, if you can't seem to keep up with Turian Soldiers with a Salarian Infiltrator with a Widow, then either those players were really good at this game, or the Salarian Infiltrator just isn't the class for you. Salarian Infiltrator is my overpowered class that I drag out when I need to carry a team. I either pull a Widow [because I am great at headshots] or my Claymore. Both are sngle shot guns.
A tip for using this class, POWERS!!! Your tactical cloak increases the damage of proxy mine and shield drain by 90%. Go for the 40% damage boost with the sniper so that when you use a power, your tac cloak drops, then fire that Widow of yours. Most of the time the power will knock off the shield and stagger them, making them an easy headshot and kill. Use shield drain if you are low on shields to replenish them [against shielded targets and geth only] and proxy mine to deal heavy damage and make your widow do an extra 20% damage. Shieldgate? No longer a problem.
I tell you this trick from experience. Learn it well [don't expect it to work perfectly your first match, takes some getting used to] and you will be awesome. The infiltrator is not exactly noob friendly, but that does not make it any less op if you learn how to use it.
I don't have a valiant or a black widow either and I personally suck with the krysae [Im a true blue sniper, I go for head shots, not aim at the ground]. Don't limit yourself to snipers either, should try out shotguns or the Paladin if you have it. Crusader is pretty good for ignoring shieldgate entirely while still getting those headshots. Claymore is better if you aren't that good of a shot or don't have the crusader.
Don't play blindly, just cloaking and shooting or using obvious builds, and you will find many tricks that will help you and your team in bronze, silver, and gold matches.
Also, should know that no class is supposed to be able to solo gold, and even if it can, it takes skill, medigels, and missiles. No matter how op a class is skill behind it makes it better.