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How would you be able to justify playing as an Infiltrator? How would you justify needing to use a whole Valient clip to take out enemies? The ability to turn invisible? That dumps aggro on team mates, remember? People want that aspect taken away. So, people want the damage and invisibility taken away. In essence, they want to take TC away. Which would make the Infiltrator class a less survivable version of the soldier. Honestly, if the Infiltrators get nerfed, I'll probably be done with this game. Taking away an entire play style away is unfair and uncalled for. Yes, I'm good with other classes, but I don't have as much FUN with them as the Infiltrator. The only comparable one is the Justicar. It's nice to be able to CHOOSE between two of my favorite classes. If you're going to ruin TC, then take away Biotic Charge too while you're at it. Both of those moves would essentially break the classes that rely on those powers.

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You can't preach in public Hanar, should I ask Shepard again?

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Don't worry about it. Bioware isn't going to listen to the inane rabble of fools that are only less than 1% of people who actually play the game.

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"Balance TC" =/= "Ruin TC"

Sorry if you believe that having ridiculous damage buffs AND cloaking are absolutely necessary to the Infiltrator and that ANY reduction to damage or cooldown would absolutely ruin the class, and the game, for you. That is truly a shame.

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Mozts wrote...

You can't preach in public Hanar, should I ask Shepard again?


Because its a BIG STUPID JELLYFISH!

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codename2o2 wrote...

Don't worry about it. Bioware isn't going to listen to the inane rabble of fools that are only less than 1% of people who actually play the game.


Are you being ironic? Posted Image

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Mozts wrote...

You can't preach in public Hanar, should I ask Shepard again?


I bought the permit, son.

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codename2o2 wrote...

Don't worry about it. Bioware isn't going to listen to the inane rabble of fools that are only less than 1% of people who actually play the game.


Thats what they said about Hittler:devil:

Modifié par Mozts, 13 juin 2012 - 06:14 .


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InfamousResult wrote...

"Balance TC" =/= "Ruin TC"

Sorry if you believe that having ridiculous damage buffs AND cloaking are absolutely necessary to the Infiltrator and that ANY reduction to damage or cooldown would absolutely ruin the class, and the game, for you. That is truly a shame.


Taking away damage buffs = ruining TC.

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If there is anyone that legitimently thinks the invisiblity should be removed from TC...there isn't even a mass effect related quote I can use to accurately express my disappoint.

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Who has asked for TC to removed completely? I don't recall EVER seeing anyone express that opinion.

The Mad Hanar wrote...

InfamousResult wrote...

"Balance TC" =/= "Ruin TC"

Sorry
if you believe that having ridiculous damage buffs AND cloaking are
absolutely necessary to the Infiltrator and that ANY reduction to damage
or cooldown would absolutely ruin the class, and the game, for you.
That is truly a shame.


Taking away damage buffs = ruining TC.


There's a difference between reducing and taking away completely.  You honestly believe that ANY reduction of the damage buff would ruin the class?  For example, if the Level 6 sniper rifle 40% bonus was dropped to 30%, do you think that would make the Infiltrator unplayable?

Modifié par CmnDwnWrkn, 13 juin 2012 - 06:19 .


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Making Tactical Cloak balanced against other powers won't make it useless. It would be very easy to make TC powerful instead of overpowered.

Personally, I think it should just follow standard cooldown/weight mechanics.

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I would continue to play an infiltrator, and continue to be self reliant.

It only means that my team would spend a longer time watching me in spectator mode.

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The Mad Hanar wrote...

Taking away damage buffs = ruining TC.


Decreasing the damage buff =/= Taking it away =/= Ruining TC.

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If they want to nerf TC they better fix my novaguard or kroguard first.

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Mozts wrote...

You can't preach in public Hanar, should I ask Shepard again?


+1

Just get BW to nerf the krysae again...

edit: they should actually nerf the sniper damage bonus to +30% instead of +40% (30% is still big) and buff melee bonus to +70% damage bonus.

Fixed.
The bonus was already 50%, yet cloak already doesn't help at all, since heavy melee forces cloak to end before the damage is done, and standard melee does eagle all.

Modifié par Biotic_Warlock, 13 juin 2012 - 06:30 .


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The Mad Hanar wrote...

How would you be able to justify playing as an Infiltrator?

Because it would still be one of the best classes in the game.

The Mad Hanar wrote...

How would you justify needing to use a whole Valient clip to take out enemies?

Because every other class has to do the same (except the soldier which should have the highest dps).

The Mad Hanar wrote...

The ability to turn invisible? That dumps aggro on team mates, remember?

So?  It helps you survive/escape, revive team mates, and take objectives relatively undetected.  Your team mates will get over being shot at slightly more.

The Mad Hanar wrote...

People want that aspect taken away. So, people want the damage and invisibility taken away. In essence, they want to take TC away.

I don't even know what you are talking about now.  People just want the damage part of tc nerfed.

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Which would make the Infiltrator class a less survivable version of the soldier.

No?

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Honestly, if the Infiltrators get nerfed, I'll probably be done with this game.

Okay.

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Taking away an entire play style away is unfair and uncalled for. Yes, I'm good with other classes, but I don't have as much FUN with them as the Infiltrator.

Bioware can do whatever they want and a lot of people believe that infiltrators and tc are overpowered.

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The only comparable one is the Justicar. It's nice to be able to CHOOSE between two of my favorite classes. If you're going to ruin TC, then take away Biotic Charge too while you're at it. Both of those moves would essentially break the classes that rely on those powers.

This makes zero sense.

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InfamousResult wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Taking away damage buffs = ruining TC.


Decreasing the damage buff =/= Taking it away =/= Ruining TC.


Decreasing the damage buff = what they did to Hunter Mode which led to people saying the the GE was ruined.

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It needs 2 things:

1.Fix the stealth so it actually works 100% of the time, sometimes enemies just ignore the so called "Cloak".
2.Reduce the damage bonus.

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The Mad Hanar wrote...

Decreasing the damage buff = what they did to Hunter Mode which led to people saying the the GE was ruined.


To be fair, people would probably claim the GE was ruined if all Bioware did was reduce the initial damage bonus by 1%.

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The Mad Hanar wrote...

Decreasing the damage buff = what they did to Hunter Mode which led to people saying the the GE was ruined.


Most people who weren't using hyperbole like it was for sale said that it hit the GE harder than the GI, but the latter needs the nerf more.

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The Mad Hanar wrote...

InfamousResult wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Taking away damage buffs = ruining TC.


Decreasing the damage buff =/= Taking it away =/= Ruining TC.


Decreasing the damage buff = what they did to Hunter Mode which led to people saying the the GE was ruined.


The GE isn't ruined. It's more the fact that the nerf hit the GE harder than the GI, and the GI is the character the nerf crybabies were complaining about the most. The damage nerf was negligable.

The fact that the enhanced vision now has less base range than Shockwave is just insulting though.

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The Mad Hanar wrote...

Mozts wrote...
You can't preach in public Hanar, should I ask Shepard again?

I bought the permit, son.

That's Shep who bought it for you, be glad.

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The Mad Hanar wrote...

InfamousResult wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Taking away damage buffs = ruining TC.


Decreasing the damage buff =/= Taking it away =/= Ruining TC.


Decreasing the damage buff = what they did to Hunter Mode which led to people saying the the GE was ruined.

And these people are what we call stupid.