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[AndrahilAdrian]

Blacklash93 wrote...

Unsatisfaying conclusions that will never be rectified is what happened to them. One of the devs said as much when they announced DA2 would be getting no further additional content.

link?

[Faerloch]

Bioware seems to not know what to do when they strike gold. It's becoming the "Revan Complex": make a great game, build an awesome hero, errrrrrrr! What do we do now? Uh, he disappears.

NEXT.

Perhaps the Mass Effect series is exempt, but I guess ME3 is proof of what happens when you take your hero's story too far. Therefore, the correct amount of game for a hero should be a major title release, DLC, and an expansion pack.

Anything to avoid another conclusive-novel by Drew Karpyshyn. I know he was writing for a young audience, but wow SW: Revan was terrible.

[Faerloch]

AndrahilAdrian wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

Unsatisfaying conclusions that will never be rectified is what happened to them. One of the devs said as much when they announced DA2 would be getting no further additional content.

link?

http://social.biowar.../index/10245444

Effort shifted from DA2--canceling the Exalted Marches expansion pack--toward DA3 concepts.

[schalafi]

My Warden went to Vigil's Keep and became the Warden Commander.
My fem Hawke went off with Anders/Justice/Vengeance,and are sailing to far off lands on Isabela's ship. 

Modifié par schalafi, 20 juin 2012 - 12:17 .

[Dakota Strider]

I am an optimist.
I expect at least 20-30 years more years of life for the Warden, because of the Taint. However, since "my" Warden is off with Morrigan and their OGB, there is a chance that either the witch or the young deity may come up with a way to extend that even further.

"My" Hawke sailed off with Isabella. I think that is as happy an ending as anyone could hope for. He did not want to be drawn into the Circle/Templar war, but did what he needed to get Bethany out of Kirkwall safely. So unless the Seekers pull him back, he is happy with heading for the sunset.

However, I am hoping to see the Warden again, though it is too much to expect to be able to play him. But the Warden's story certainly feels incomplete.

Modifié par Dakota Strider, 20 juin 2012 - 09:18 .

[Uccio]

My Warden went with Morrigan through the mirror and will return with a roar to shake the world. My Hawke and Merrill became part of Isabela´s pirate crew on her new ship, she needed couple of good mages.

[deuce985]

I'd like to think Bioware left it up to our imagination to figure out what happened next.

I don't think you'll see full closure(but who knows).

People say endings that leave it up to the imagination are poor writing. I disagree. Endings are the hardest thing to make in any story. Everybody has a form of ending they want to see but not everyone gets that ending if it has full closure. By leaving it up to your imagination and leaving that "plot hole" there, at least you have more freedom to see endings how you want them to be.

And I guess this is partially why I was not bothered by ME3's ending.

Modifié par deuce985, 20 juin 2012 - 10:02 .

[hussey 92]

wsandista wrote...

Warden dies either by killing AD or by the taint.

Hawke explodes like a blood sausage.

good enough for me

[Blue Gloves]

Meh- endings, I wasn't ever really bothered by a "vague" ending as long as it made sense. (Glaring at you, ME3) In my head, the warden tracked Morrigan down, recovered a book for some fellow Dalish, got a "surprise" from the witch, and went off to find Zev so she'd have some help in deciphering it (and booty, let's not forget the booty.)
Hy Hawke ran off into the hills where she probably eventually self destructed after a crappy ten years in Kirkwall and an emotional rollercoaster of a relationship with a crazy, mage hating elf, or maybe she took King Alistair up on his offer, and her and Fenris went back to Fereldan to help out. Who knows? And that's the point- I like knowing that my characters' futures are till up in the air. But I suppose, if Bioware came up w/ a suitably cool ending (I like the whole "Flemeth's collecting them to be a new Pantheon of the Gods" thing) I'd be okay w/ it.

[BubbleDncr]

Faerloch wrote...

AndrahilAdrian wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

Unsatisfaying conclusions that will never be rectified is what happened to them. One of the devs said as much when they announced DA2 would be getting no further additional content.

link?

http://social.biowar.../index/10245444

Effort shifted from DA2--canceling the Exalted Marches expansion pack--toward DA3 concepts.

Aren't you a downer?

Just because they aren't working on a DA2 Expansion anymore doesn't mean they won't tell you what happened to the Warden and Hawke in DA3 - in fact, everything I've read from the devs makes says that they are quite aware of how much everyone still has questions about Hawke/Warden's fate.

So, while they may choose not to answer those questions, I like to take the optimistic view that they will.

[Jerrybnsn]

All joking aside, the disappearance of one of my Warden's confused me. She didn't go with Morrigan in the mirror but received a package. So how come at the end of DA2, Leliana says that the Warden is also missing with her import? The other one (the one that graces your presence before you) had a L.I. so that made sense.

As Zeveran would say "You have some 'splainin' to do."

[Face of Evil]

Jerrybnsn wrote...

All joking aside, the disappearance of one of my Warden's confused me. She didn't go with Morrigan in the mirror but received a package. So how come at the end of DA2, Leliana says that the Warden is also missing with her import? The other one (the one that graces your presence before you) had a L.I. so that made sense.

Just because the Warden is missing doesn't mean that s/he went through the mirror.

[Brodoteau]

I actually don't really care if the Warden and Hawke show up in future games or not. As the logistics of it are mind boggling. I was content with references to the Warden in DA2 and I could sit there and go "Hey that was my Warden who did that!"

That being said, I really like, in DA3, to encounter "Cults" that have popped up around the Warden and Hawke. You know, your player character walks into a temple and there you see a statue of an armoured figure (or mage or rogue or whatever) and you see a high priest talk about how the great hero will one day return to save us... I think it would make sense especially if faith in the Chantry has been stattered by the mage-templar war.

[deuce985]

I'd imagine it would be a major problem for Bioware to put Warden/Hawke in DA3 without you controlling them as the PC.

Is the Warden going to stand around and be mute? Is Hawke going to have a different personality than I crafted in DA2? Will we see a bunch of face import bugs(which is likely for us PC users and modded faces). Just seems like more trouble than it's worth, IMO.

They'd have to put them in the game in a very special circumstance. Like them not being Warden or Hawke anymore. Or just allow you to control them.

Modifié par deuce985, 21 juin 2012 - 11:44 .

[AndrahilAdrian]

Jerrybnsn wrote...

All joking aside, the disappearance of one of my Warden's confused me. She didn't go with Morrigan in the mirror but received a package. So how come at the end of DA2, Leliana says that the Warden is also missing with her import? The other one (the one that graces your presence before you) had a L.I. so that made sense.

As Zeveran would say "You have some 'splainin' to do."

I really would like to learn what that package was (note the signature). Morrigan gave me a gift of "great importance" and then the game ended without telling me what it was, and the sequel shed no light on the matter. What was the point of having the gift in the first place if they never explain what it is? It was a really anti-climactic way to end the warden's saga.

[Jerrybnsn]

Face of Evil wrote...

Jerrybnsn wrote...

All joking aside, the disappearance of one of my Warden's confused me. She didn't go with Morrigan in the mirror but received a package. So how come at the end of DA2, Leliana says that the Warden is also missing with her import? The other one (the one that graces your presence before you) had a L.I. so that made sense.

Just because the Warden is missing doesn't mean that s/he went through the mirror.

Well, she didn't.  So you can start explaining anytime now.

[Jerrybnsn]

Rojahar wrote...

Honestly, I don't ever want to know. I see the DA protagonists disappearing as a "Hero wanders off into the sunset, the adventure over, and nobody sure what happened afterward." kind of end.

That could be true if it wasn't for the fact that your companions continue onward into the Dragon Age saga.  Leliana, who could be dead or your love interest that is joined with you at the hip, continues on with the saga. Alistair , who is supposed to be burden down with the duties of kingship or a useless drunk, continues on with the saga.  Flemeth, who you could have killed, has found a way to continue on with the saga.  As a proactive participant in the Dragon Age world, it's kind of hard to sit on the sidelines.

 Honestly, no matter what, people would complain whatever Bioware did with the characters later was bad, blah blah blah, and on the other hand, how they're doing it now, people will keep complaining that there isn't closure and they aren't satisfied until they see what happens to the Warden's great, great, great grandchildren.

As far as the possible complaints to what Bioware would do with our characters,  no one complained with the importation of their character for the dlcs and expansion.  And I could only hope that the DA series will be so succesful and profitable for Bioware that we could see what happens to the Warden's great, great, great grandchildren.

[DarkDragon777]

They were perma-banned by Priestly.

Modifié par DarkDragon777, 22 juin 2012 - 07:07 .

[WardenWade]

I hope that whatever turns out to be the ultimate fate of the Warden and Hawke, we can see them again. I would love to play as my Warden again, for example, and find out first hand what he had been through, as well as reprise established relationships with my former companions (and extant LI...I actually think it would be great to have the choice to "rekindle," for lack of a better word, an existing romance instead of needing to start from scratch, if you didn't want to)

[haroldhardluck]

The epilogue dialogue between Cassandra and Leliana mentioned a possible Plan B but Leliana said that their fate was in the hands of the Maker, i.e. it is whatever Bioware decides. It is the standard vague ending when the game creators have a vague idea for the sequel but has no idea about what will be the details.

I suspect that in DA3 you will have the same options as in DA2, several endings for DA2 that Bioware decides will be standard and one actual ending from your play.

The fate of the Warden is sealed in the DA2 options. Since one of the options is the Warden dies, the "Warden" referred to by Cassandra and Leliana must be the replacement Orlesian warden from Awakening in that option.

It is possible that Witch Hunt will not be canonical and Morrigan's story will still be left unresolved. Morrigan is starting to look like a standard NPC just like Flemeth. Just as your adventurers can bump into Elminster in the Forgotten Realms, your character may bump into Flemeth and/or Morrigan as a NPC.

Since Nathaniel and Anders appear in DA2, there is a preferred canonical ending for Awakening.

Because there are two possible wardens, I suspect that the warden will have only a small cameo in DA3 as Bioware will have to make two versions for the warden quest. The epilogue conversation indicates that Hawke, not the Warden is the key to resolving the mage problem. So I do not expect to see much of the warden in DA3. I do expect a definitive resolution of his fate even if it is only a passage in the epilogue.

Because Sebastian is from an optional DLC, he will probably not appear but there will probably be two versions where Anders lives or dies. The romance can be handled by simply switching in the appropriate character as a companion to the warden so that will be one version. Varric must appear as a major NPC as he is too good and central a character to leave behind.

The key difference is which side Hawke chose in the end. There may be a major difference in the provided options and storyline.

I suspect the sibling will not appear or only as a minor cameo as there are too many possibilities to handle.

I think Hawke will appear like Flemeth in DAO and DA2, as a NPC who gives a quest to the protagonists and disappears. I suspect that quest will be the resolution of the mage problem.

Harold

[JediHealerCosmin]

 Well, Leliana left my Warden to work for the Divine, so I'm assuming he went to hide somewhere until the taint finally kills him.

Hawke sailed off with Isabela where I pretty much assume they were eaten by either the Kraken or Moby Dick.

[Alexander1136]

 My Warden went through the eluvian with morrigan

as for hawke. well i just finally replayed origins and imported the new save. hopefully this time around when i get to act 3 zevran will stay dead.. so we'll see how it goes. chances are he'll just go somewhere else and be awesome because hawke cannot be tied down.

[element eater]

my dalish warden found hawke and beat the crap out of him/killed him for messing his clan around and leading merril astray then he and velana got what was left of his clan out of kirkwall