395 réponses à ce sujet

[Mal3fact0r]

GodlessPaladin wrote...

Nah, grenade gear is a more sensible target than grenades themselves. Grenade gear is an obviously better choice than other gear slot options for grenadiers.

Mal3fact0r wrote...
Plenty of targets for nerf calls and once it starts, it never stops.

I feel obliged to point out that this and other comments like it I've been seeing is a Slippery Slope argument if it's used to justify the status quo.

Except it's true, seen it countless times in countless games. Of course we as gamers have no need to justify the status quo, we don't make design or balance decisions, we simply get to state our opinions and as you can see, they vary greatly on any given topic.

[COLZ7R]

Simple solution
if i remember right at the start of this game there was a fair few moans from some people about BE, it got a tiny nerf that didnt really effect its use but the nerffers were happy in general.
Take 5-10% off the damage boost on tc, the nerfers will feel empowered and most people wont notice!! Win win

[GodlessPaladin]

Mal3fact0r wrote...

GodlessPaladin wrote...

Mal3fact0r wrote...
Plenty of targets for nerf calls and once it starts, it never stops.

I feel obliged to point out that this and other comments like it I've been seeing is a Slippery Slope argument if it's used to justify the status quo.

Except it's true

<_<

The point is that it wouldn't constitute a particularly valid refutation regarding whether X thing should be changed or not, whether it's true or not.  So I don't know why people bother to keep saying that.

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 14 juin 2012 - 08:41 .

[Stigweird85]

signed

The tactical cloak is not an invincibility cloak, activate it when an ememy has you in their sights and they will still shoot you. It does not make enemies forgot you existed.

It's best used for location based objectives or for reviving fallen squadmates - I basically act as a medic when I play as the SI as long as I stay out of the direct line of fire the TC allows me to quickly run in, revive and run out. I've lost count of the number of rounds I have kept the fight going by doing this.

[Mal3fact0r]

GodlessPaladin wrote...

Mal3fact0r wrote...

GodlessPaladin wrote...

Mal3fact0r wrote...
Plenty of targets for nerf calls and once it starts, it never stops.

I feel obliged to point out that this and other comments like it I've been seeing is a Slippery Slope argument if it's used to justify the status quo.

Except it's true

<_<

[Lord Rosario]

bigstig wrote...

signed

The tactical cloak is not an invincibility cloak, activate it when an ememy has you in their sights and they will still shoot you. It does not make enemies forgot you existed.

It's best used for location based objectives or for reviving fallen squadmates - I basically act as a medic when I play as the SI as long as I stay out of the direct line of fire the TC allows me to quickly run in, revive and run out. I've lost count of the number of rounds I have kept the fight going by doing this.

A common misconception. Actually, the enemies fire at the last place they saw you when you hid. So if you hide, then stand there like an idiot, they will still shoot that spot. If you move your butt out of there, they will continue firing at that spot.

There are some exceptions to enemies that -can- see you while hidden. If you run, you are also more likely to be seen and shot at. Also, you should know that if you touch an enemy while hidden, they will shoot/melee that spot where they were touched. All of this is kind of common sence when trying to hide I think.

[Lord Rosario]

It's funny how badly informed some of the people are that are signing this petition.. Others I find are much more intelligent than the ones signing the other. Go figure. The petitions are more balanced than the actual character. Irony at it's best.

[N7 Banshee Bait]

What about making it work right so the enemies can't see you? THAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED ASAP!

[N7 Banshee Bait]

Lord Rosario wrote...

bigstig wrote...

signed

The tactical cloak is not an invincibility cloak, activate it when an ememy has you in their sights and they will still shoot you. It does not make enemies forgot you existed.

It's best used for location based objectives or for reviving fallen squadmates - I basically act as a medic when I play as the SI as long as I stay out of the direct line of fire the TC allows me to quickly run in, revive and run out. I've lost count of the number of rounds I have kept the fight going by doing this.

A common misconception. Actually, the enemies fire at the last place they saw you when you hid. So if you hide, then stand there like an idiot, they will still shoot that spot. If you move your butt out of there, they will continue firing at that spot.

There are some exceptions to enemies that -can- see you while hidden. If you run, you are also more likely to be seen and shot at. Also, you should know that if you touch an enemy while hidden, they will shoot/melee that spot where they were touched. All of this is kind of common sence when trying to hide I think.

That's the way it's *SUPPOSED* to work. *IF* it worked right.

But in reality, the enemies can see you no matter what. Sneak behind them to activate an objective & they'll immediately turn around & you'll be catching a few rockets with your face. 

[Lord Rosario]

Steelgrave wrote...

Lord Rosario wrote...

bigstig wrote...

signed

The tactical cloak is not an invincibility cloak, activate it when an ememy has you in their sights and they will still shoot you. It does not make enemies forgot you existed.

It's best used for location based objectives or for reviving fallen squadmates - I basically act as a medic when I play as the SI as long as I stay out of the direct line of fire the TC allows me to quickly run in, revive and run out. I've lost count of the number of rounds I have kept the fight going by doing this.

A common misconception. Actually, the enemies fire at the last place they saw you when you hid. So if you hide, then stand there like an idiot, they will still shoot that spot. If you move your butt out of there, they will continue firing at that spot.

There are some exceptions to enemies that -can- see you while hidden. If you run, you are also more likely to be seen and shot at. Also, you should know that if you touch an enemy while hidden, they will shoot/melee that spot where they were touched. All of this is kind of common sence when trying to hide I think.

That's the way it's *SUPPOSED* to work. *IF* it worked right.

But in reality, the enemies can see you no matter what. Sneak behind them to activate an objective & they'll immediately turn around & you'll be catching a few rockets with your face. 

Playing Gold? Then I forgot to mention that instead of simply touching them, getting close can set them to your location as well, but only in gold as far as ive noticed. Also running is much more obvious to enemies in gold too.

[N172]

COLZ7R wrote...

Take 5-10% off the damage boost on tc, the nerfers will feel empowered and most people wont notice!! Win win

BW could take those 10% away from the Rank 4 Damage bonus, as it is it nearly doubles the damage bonus while the duration upgrade does not even give you one third more duration.

If they additionally solve the issue with previously charged shots not breaking cloak it whould take away a great amount of OPness without breaking the class.

[Sun Tzglyph]

Signed

[axewood]

signed

[nicethugbert]

"tactical cloak is not an invincibility cloak" is a bunch of pure bull ship. I just got done playing with two infiltrators. I was getting surrounded and shot at from two or three ends of the map. I couldn't take a shot without getting my shields stripped, playing a krogan sentinal with 50% DR and over 1000 shields. I was whittling mooks down with a KRYSAE and incinerate only to have these cheap bastards take the finishing shot with their black widows, INSTEAD OF FOCUSING ON THE HARDER TARGETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dear Infiltrators, Go. Pluck. Yourself. Worthless trash.

[Kronner]

Lord Rosario wrote...

It's funny how badly informed some of the people are that are signing this petition..

Says the guy who thinks that Crusader ignores shieldgate. Irony at its best.

[Aetika]

signed

[JD1939]

Signed! You need something to compensate the regular occurrence of being shot when cloaked, and that's where the damage bonus comes in.

[kilgh]

Signed.

[RJMG]

signed

[GodlessPaladin]

nicethugbert wrote...
Dear Infiltrators, Go. Pluck. Yourself. Worthless trash.

Did... did you just repost this right after Kronner owned you? 

[ryoldschool]

signed. Too many cooks in the kitchen.

[sydsyrious]

Signed.....+1

[BoomDynamite]

BUMP

[liquid sleep]

Signed...

Infiltrators can remain the heavy hitters, they have been so since the game's release. As long as the support classes are good at supporting, etc., etc.. Hit the other classes/characters with the balancing (buff) stick first.

[ElectroNeonPanda]

BoomDynamite wrote...

The Infiltrator class has a lot of firepower, but that's it. They've got nothing else besides firepower, and the ability to, guess what, infiltrate. 

Not signed.

Based on the highlighted blatantly incorrect statement.