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[Bat32391]

Wait whats wrong with liking Me3 ? I mean the ending is complete bull and the auto-dialogue is stupid, but overall I thought it was a decent game.

[Majin Paul]

I'd have to agree, I thought they were all great games too, hopefully the DLC will be just as good.

[Robhuzz]

Bat32391 wrote...

Wait whats wrong with liking Me3 ? I mean the ending is complete bull and the auto-dialogue is stupid, but overall I thought it was a decent game.

It was a decent game, I liked it a lot but I also see the obvious flaws and the ending was... well you know.. an abomination. The point is, people making such obvious ''GREATEST GAME EVUR THANK YOU BW'' bs threads are obvious trolls trying to bait the anti ending crowd.

Modifié par Robhuzz, 14 juin 2012 - 08:45 .

[Ewok Hunter]

Good for you. I really wish I could have gone back and finished the game without hearing about all the outcry about the ending, because really, it is a terrific game. By the sounds of things you managed to avoid all the negative spin, which is something I hope to do when the EC comes out. It's hard to form your own opinion with so many others shouting out theirs.

But a game of this scale takes enormous time and effort. So regardless of what people think about the quality. You have to give Bioware a lot of credit for the dedication and countless hours they put into the series. So yeah I agree.

Thanks Bioware

[taggen86]

I agree with you man. Playing through the ME trilogy was an amazing ride that I will never forget. My best gaming experience the past deacde. Each game had its own strengths and weaknesses, but taken toghether it was an awesome package

I also want to send some thanks to casey and the team, these guys spent 10 years of their life to create this world. They deserve a lot of love for their effort

Modifié par taggen86, 14 juin 2012 - 09:27 .

[fchopin]

deathlycold wrote...

Mass Effect 3 was emotionally exhausting for me without going into spoilers .. I Laughed ... I Cryed ... I got Angry .. I had Regrets .. It made me re-examine some of my own believes. I was emotionally exhausted. Thank you Thank you Than you.

I agree with you, i love ME3 and also found it very emotional apart for some of the plot holes.
 
I also replayed all the ME games from beginning using a male Shepard and plan on doing it again using a female Shepard.

[Evo_9]

Op i agree with you and felt the same way you did once you finished the ME series.

In all my years ive never enjoyed a series as much as ME and cant wait for ME4.

[Aloren]

I also agree with OP. I mean, sure, the ending was not as great as I hoped it would be, but I still loved the game, and the Mass Effect series is still the best imo.

[Sakanade]

deathlycold wrote...

the writing the story everything was epic.
The whole game all your decisions from previous Mass Effects where brought up. the story was absolutely completely and totally awesome.

Have you played the last 15 minutes of ME3?

[jaza]

Aloren wrote...

I also agree with OP. I mean, sure, the ending was not as great as I hoped it would be, but I still loved the game, and the Mass Effect series is still the best imo.

But, you know, your choices, the thing the game is supposedly famed for, did not matter...at all.

[fchopin]

jaza wrote...

But, you know, your choices, the thing the game is supposedly famed for, did not matter...at all.

Choices did matter in my game but i also know that i am not god and cannot make everything in life come out as i wish, let’s be a little realistic.

[PsiFive]

Sakanade wrote...

deathlycold wrote...

the writing the story everything was epic.
The whole game all your decisions from previous Mass Effects where brought up. the story was absolutely completely and totally awesome.

Have you played the last 15 minutes of ME3?

The *last* 15 minutes? I'd say the problems begin in the first 15 minutes - where'd Shepard get that omni-stabby from when s/he's been under arrest for the last six months? Are the Alliance in the habit of letting prisoners have deadly weapons or what? And if you didn't play Arrival what specifically is Shepard even under arrest for? Oh yeah, that's right, "the s**t you pulled" that nobody else seems to have been arrested for, including at least one person who you find later has been welcomed back into the Alliance fold despite surely being wanted for pulling entirely seperate s**t before even meeting Shepard. Don't get me wrong, it's fun to play (what I've played of it round at a mate's - I'm still not dropping dollars on this until a couple of things are sorted out) but storywise it needs an abnormally large dollop of suspension of disbelief to make it fit in the same universe as the older games.

[Grubas]

....the Ec better be worth it...

[Cyberarmy]

Grubas wrote...

....the Ec better be worth it...

Sorry but it wont,
Search your feelings, you know it to be true!

[Reikilea]

So you are angry with him because he liked the game. Looking down at someone who actually enjoyed it. Well your bad luck, at leats there was someone who doenst have to whine about everything.

Geez and I thought fans couldnt get more annoying. I am dangerously close to stop holding the line and go to Bioware side and support the ending. Only thanks to people like you.
You know what, playing ME3 was one of the best gaming experience of my life. (and no its definitely not the only game series I finished).

[puppy maclove]

I also laughed and cried OP, but that was mostly because of the ending. The reason being is that ME is a fantastic series and IMO the last game is the weakest entry and the series deserved much better.

MY issues with ME3:

The ABC ending that was space magic and not true to the character of the series. (nuff said on that)
The side quests were tacked on (to serve the MP). The journal is a joke. Tali's face issue ( sloppy and just sad). The major plot elements throughout the series, like the Rachni Queen and Collectors base for example have no real effect besides some EMS points..... WOW


Two conversation options and shallow dialogue trees. Weak and shallow companions - VEGA
Citadel felt small, under designed and non-relevant with no other hub areas to visit like Omega for example. There was too much auto-dialogue. The animations were poor. The beginning was really disappointing... the "trial" was a joke.... it could have been awesome. The EMS readiness/ M-player issue (blatant lie from BW).

ME3 almost felt like it was made to get a Mutli-player game out there... full stop, the S-Player felt the add-on to me.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the middle section of the game... the Geth resolution and Krogan bit on Tuchanka was really very good... but it was the exception rather than the norm.

Overall, a very poor effort ..... that's just my opinion. I'm happy for those who enjoyed the game, thats great for you. Personally, I expect more and better, not to mention all the marketing BS we were fed... I'm done with Bioware.. 1st the rubbish DA2, TOR and now this!!!!

[Cyberarmy]

jlmaclachlan wrote...

I also laughed and cried OP, but that was mostly because of the ending. The reason being is that ME is a fantastic series and IMO the last game is the weakest entry and the series deserved much better.

MY issues with ME3:

The ABC ending that was space magic and not true to the character of the series. (nuff said on that)
The side quests were tacked on (to serve the MP). The journal is a joke. Tali's face issue ( sloppy and just sad). The major plot elements throughout the series, like the Rachni Queen and Collectors base for example have no real effect besides some EMS points..... WOW


Two conversation options and shallow dialogue trees. Weak and shallow companions - VEGA
Citadel felt small, under designed and non-relevant with no other hub areas to visit like Omega for example. There was too much auto-dialogue. The animations were poor. The beginning was really disappointing... the "trial" was a joke.... it could have been awesome. The EMS readiness/ M-player issue (blatant lie from BW).

ME3 almost felt like it was made to get a Mutli-player game out there... full stop, the S-Player felt the add-on to me.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the middle section of the game... the Geth resolution and Krogan bit on Tuchanka was really very good... but it was the exception rather than the norm.

Overall, a very poor effort ..... that's just my opinion. I'm happy for those who enjoyed the game, thats great for you. Personally, I expect more and better, not to mention all the marketing BS we were fed... I'm done with Bioware.. 1st the rubbish DA2, TOR and now this!!!!

+1

[Dragoonlordz]

Yeh ME3 is not as bad as people make out to be. I enjoyed it, great game with some elements that could of been improved. For example I think quests could of been improved the scan ones which pick up by hearing conversation could of actually taken part in conversation as player and discussions then head out and landed on planets to do missions instead of couple clicks to complete.

I also would of liked the Mako back in hanger bay which could take out on missions and had more exploration, would of been nice ifcustomisation had been done with more variety in types of equipment for example amount of armours and such but the most important element missing is Kasumi as LI is something I wanted. I am not a blue baby guy and not really interested in slightly racist and very neive Ashley or even at all interested in Tali as LI, so I think would of been better if had Kasumi as LI option than those three personally.

Quest tracking could of been improved and the ending while I liked it personally I guess could of had more personal element to it choices wise like outcomes more personalised but thats what EC is going to do I believe with the additional cinematics along with clarification of some elements some people did not like. Those who want more than that will learn you don't get everything you want in life which is a lesson some of them need to learn going by the childish ranting and raging they did about the game while back.

As can see in my signature I am not one of the ones who spewed bile and vitriol at the ending as I actually thought it was a nice ending with room for *slight* improvement meaning the more personal touch to individual players stories which is going to happen with EC. The game overall is very good though minus those small tweaks I would of made. 90% of the game I thought was great, 5% was nice and 5% could of been done better meaning things I mentioned being the main ones (imho). I still prefer ME1 though but as far as I am concerned it goes ME1>ME3>ME2.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 14 juin 2012 - 11:49 .

[PsiFive]

Reikilea wrote...

So you are angry with him because he liked the game. Looking down at someone who actually enjoyed it. Well your bad luck, at leats there was someone who doenst have to whine about everything.

Can't speak for anyone else but not me. Don't care who enjoyed it and I don't mind that they did any more than it bothers me that someone prefers baseball to cricket or prefers soccer to real footy, the kind played by physical freaks on cricket ovals in the off season. Doesn't even bother me that most of the world loves soccer while the world's oldest, and IMO best, football code is confined to one country where it's followed by only half the population. But that doesn't mean I can't say why baseball mystifies me or why I can't see the attraction in spending 90 minutes watching what turns out to be a 1-1 draw (the last soccer game I sat through). Clearly there's something good about it or it wouldn't be one of the most watched sports in the world but just because I can't see it and can tell you why I found it boring or inexplicable isn't a criticism of the people who like it. A criticism of the game, whether soccer or baseball or ME3 is just a criticism of the game, not of those who got something enjoyable out of it.

[Reikilea]

PsiFive wrote...

Can't speak for anyone else but not me. Don't care who enjoyed it and I don't mind that they did any more than it bothers me that someone prefers baseball to cricket or prefers soccer to real footy, the kind played by physical freaks on cricket ovals in the off season. Doesn't even bother me that most of the world loves soccer while the world's oldest, and IMO best, football code is confined to one country where it's followed by only half the population. But that doesn't mean I can't say why baseball mystifies me or why I can't see the attraction in spending 90 minutes watching what turns out to be a 1-1 draw (the last soccer game I sat through). Clearly there's something good about it or it wouldn't be one of the most watched sports in the world but just because I can't see it and can tell you why I found it boring or inexplicable isn't a criticism of the people who like it. A criticism of the game, whether soccer or baseball or ME3 is just a criticism of the game, not of those who got something enjoyable out of it.

Its his opinion, so if you dont agree with his opinion, you dont agree with him as a person - So when people posts somehing along How can you like it, were you actually playing it? it it sound like you are looking donw at him/her because he enjoyed the game. In addition, from most of the replies here,  it seemed like people considered him stupid to some extent, because he loved the game and didnt mind telling it. Its not just criticism of the game, because now you are directly reffering to the person who came out with the opinion. You are comparing your opinion to his, and you automatically prefers your, so you assume his opinion must be stupid, because its not what you like. Especially in threads like this when there is one person voicing his opinion.

(and I am not talking that you did it, but the others here did)

So to the objectivity point - I can say that I loved the game, but not the ending. But I cant clearly say that I hate it, because I can see what Bioware was trying to convey and I honestly dont mind it, if it was done in right way.

And I dont know how you, but I am sure that most of the world plays football and only one country plays soccer. (I had to, as my country loves Football we always get touchy with this subject)

Modifié par Reikilea, 14 juin 2012 - 12:03 .

[Hvlukas]

Good for you. I guess the extended cut coming out soon will just be added bonus for you? Sweet.

I enjoyed all three games too, some more than others, but over all .. yep, one of the best game series out there, in my opinion.

[GarethJShep]

This is officaly my fav thread

[PsiFive]

Reikilea wrote...

PsiFive wrote...

Can't speak for anyone else but not me. Don't care who enjoyed it and I don't mind that they did any more than it bothers me that someone prefers baseball to cricket or prefers soccer to real footy, the kind played by physical freaks on cricket ovals in the off season. Doesn't even bother me that most of the world loves soccer while the world's oldest, and IMO best, football code is confined to one country where it's followed by only half the population. But that doesn't mean I can't say why baseball mystifies me or why I can't see the attraction in spending 90 minutes watching what turns out to be a 1-1 draw (the last soccer game I sat through). Clearly there's something good about it or it wouldn't be one of the most watched sports in the world but just because I can't see it and can tell you why I found it boring or inexplicable isn't a criticism of the people who like it. A criticism of the game, whether soccer or baseball or ME3 is just a criticism of the game, not of those who got something enjoyable out of it.

Its his opinion, so if you dont agree with his opinion, you dont agree with him as a person - So when people posts somehing along How can you like it, were you actually playing it? it it sound like you are looking donw at him/her because he enjoyed the game. In addition, from most of the replies here,  it seemed like people considered him stupid to some extent, because he loved the game and didnt mind telling it. Its not just criticism of the game, because now you are directly reffering to the person who came out with the opinion. You are comparing your opinion to his, and you automatically prefers your, so you assume his opinion must be stupid, because its not what you like. Especially in threads like this when there is one person voicing his opinion.

(and I am not talking that you did it, but the others here did)

So to the objectivity point - I can say that I loved the game, but not the ending. But I cant clearly say that I hate it, because I can see what Bioware was trying to convey and I honestly dont mind it, if it was done in right way.

And I dont know how you, but I am sure that most of the world plays football and only one country plays soccer. (I had to, as my country loves Football we always get touchy with this subject)

That I don't agree with one opinon that one person holds says nothing whatsoever about my opinion of them as a person. What if it's the one and only thing he and I differ on? Hey, mate, we vote the same way and like the same beer and holiday in the same places and a million other things, but I can't stand you because you like the ME3 story and I thought it was weak and had too much fanservice? Nah, come on.... my wife and I don't agree on everything but I love her more than anyone else in the world. And I'd still love her even if she played ME3 and thought it was brilliant. I wouldn't say her opinon is stupid it just wouldn't be my opinion, that's all. Would you decide that your spouse is stupid because the two of you didn't agree on something? I wouldn't even say my wife was stupid if I caught her trying to cook her own head - I would only say that she is doing something stupid and also odd odd given how bright she is.

As to the value of the opinon, that's as subjective as the quality of the story. I can give examples of things I've found unsatisfying on my limited play so far, e.g. Shepard having been in custody with a deadly weapon being both very early in the game and very difficult to explain without stretching credibility. Nobody anywhere routinely, if ever, allows people in any kind of official detention to have deadly weapons. That the omni-stabby has never been hinted at in previous games is a minor issue compared to the strange decision to let Shephard have one in custody. My wife would almost certainly overlook this but it just annoys me that for the sake of putting in an admittedly cool looking melee mechanic they had the Alliance doing something that just makes no sense. Have Shpe find one on a dead guy on the way to the Normandy by all means, though I think a simple bayonet mod for the guns would have been better albeit not as cool looking when used.

And the soccer/footy thing? Pedantic and off topic of me, I know, but I have to tell you that more than one country has a game called football which is not the round ball, 11 a side game you call football and so uses the term soccer to distinguish between the two. Here in Oz footy might mean any of three codes since the rugby league fans in the east sometimes call their game footy as well, but my preference is for Aussie Rules, which as I mentioned is the oldest football code in the world (surprised me when I heard because I'd always assumed it was soccer/your football). Adds nothing to the discussion but if you're ever playing a trivia quiz and there's a question about the world's oldest football code now you'll know - invented Down Under in the best bloody country in the world:D (except those countries where the people who live there think they're the best).