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[MegaSovereign]

ABCoLD wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

• In the Synthesis ending, Shepard's organic energy is broken down and then dispersed to merge organic and synthetic life into a new framework/DNA. The Crucible's beam is a well-developed mass spectrometer, and that
  Shepard's leap into its matter stream is what gives the Catalyst a complete picture of what makes him tick. The Crucible's blast is actually a burst of gamma radiation designed to create classical matter from dark matter. We can hypothesize that the Crucible emits virtual particles capable of manipulating the quantum foam to assemble this newly created matter into functional structures. We've speculated as to what form these structures might take, using modern molecular machinery as a guide. And we've examined artificial viruses to explain how this technology might integrate with its host.**
• Time slows down the closer you get to the speed of light. The Crucible using dark energy could mean that time would reverse itself for it and therefore the effect would be noticible in the past even if the wave was going well beyond the speed of light.

Just wanted to mention that the stuff you have listed here is incredibly speculative.  Might I suggest you color code your entries into a convenient Red Green Blue color scheme.  

Red could be the color of information that you know to be true. This is directly supported by in game codex information or conversations.  For example The Crucible uses fusion reactors.

Blue could be the color of information that is easily inferred, e.g. The Crucible is primarily a massive tracking system and power source.

Green could be the color of **** information we just made up to make ourselves feel better about apparent logical incongruities. The Crucible beam is a mass spectrometer. Synthesis uses nano viri and travels backwards in time.

With this system people could easily discern authoritative information from speculative guesswork.

That's not a bad idea. I'll try that.

[KingZayd]

Some questions:
Why track the systems with Reapers inside, if you're just sending the energy wave throughout the galaxy indiscriminately?

If the Citadel carries out most of the function of the Crucible, and the Crucible is basically a power source, what was the point of the Crucible before it was adapted to be used with the Citadel?

[ABCoLD]

What does the Crucible do?

• The Crucible exploits the mass relay network. The Crucible uses the mass relays to transfer energy across the galaxy with little regard to distance. 
• Since the Citadel is the center/command station of the mass relay network, the Crucible can use it to better exploit the mass relays. Hence previous cycles later incorporating the Citadel into the Crucible's design.
• The Catalyst says that the Crucible is a little more than a power source, confirming that the functionality/targeting of the Crucible is mostly done through the Citadel
• In the Control ending, the Crucible is used to hack the Reapers' consensus to override the Catalyst's control over them. Shepard now replaces the Catalyst.
• In the Destroy ending, the Crucible sends out an energy wave that targets all synthetics. What gets destroyed depends on the EMS. With low EMS the Crucible fails to function properly and causes an unpredictable level of damage to both organics and technology throughout the galaxy. With mid-level EMS the Crucible damages all technology. With high EMS the Crucible only destroys technology holding AIs, machines that contain programs with adaptive or quantum coding.
• In the Synthesis ending, Shepard's organic energy is broken down and then dispersed to merge organic and synthetic life into a new framework/DNA. The Crucible's beam is a well-developed mass spectrometer, and Shepard's leap into the beam is what gives the Catalyst a complete picture of what makes him tick. The Crucible's blast is actually a burst of gamma radiation designed to create classical matter from dark matter. The Crucible emits virtual particles capable of manipulating the quantum foam to assemble this newly created matter into functional structures.  Artificial viruses might explain how this technology would integrate with its host.**
• Time slows down the closer you get to the speed of light. The Crucible using dark energy could mean that time would reverse itself for it and therefore the effect would be noticeable in the past even if the wave was going well beyond the speed of light.
• Dark Energy is the type of energy that is produced (altered) by Eezo to produce Mass Effect fields, allowing for faster than light travel and manipulating the mass of various objects. However, the Crucible is more of a conventional device considering its power sources.*
• In short, the Crucible/Citadel mechanism is basically a giant Mass Effect gun, more or less.  Or it is a sawn off Mass Relay.  In any event, it is a traditionally powered (fusion) mobile installation that interacts with the Relays and uses a huge amount of Element Zero.  *

*ABCold's contribution
**Taken from WardenAlex's thread "How Stuff Works: Synthesis Edition" (social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/13087142)
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What powers the Crucible?

• One of the main power sources of the Crucible could in fact be dark matter, or the power sources could readily alter dark matter.
  Source:

  Prothean Data Files
  These Prothean discs were found years ago on Eden Prime, recovered a few  months before the discovery of the Prothean Beacon in 2183. For years the  data on the discs was incomprehensible, until the Crucible's blueprints  provided the key to understanding the equations. Locked inside the discs were  theories on dark matter meant to be used with the Crucible's main power source.
  

• Eezo could also be something that fuels the Crucible, at the very least it is fundamental to the function of the Crucible.
  Source:

  Element Zero Converter
  Element zero refineries are large industrial facilities that remove impurities from the element, also called eezo, before it is used to fuel starships or gravity generators. It's an important process, as sending an electrical charge through impure eezo can cause the element to explode. By setting up a conversion facility beside the Crucible, eezo can be mined, refined and supplied to the project in record time.
  

• The Reaper Brain could skyrocket the processing power of the Crucible. More processing power could make it easier for the Crucible to hack the firewalls of the Reapers' main computer systems.
  Source:

  The Reaper Brain
  The Illusive Man salvaged the most valuable part of the human proto-Reaper under construction by the Collectors: its central processor. This "brain" has been reactivated for use as a computational device, crunching unheard amounts of data in nanoseconds. The Crucible's engineers are dissecting the processor, working in strictly supervised, drone-assisted shifts. While direct contact with Reapers is dangerous, the engineers feel the risk is worth the potential discovery of vulnerabilities in Reaper construction.
  

• The Reapers main power source (the heart) could also help power the Crucible. More energy/raw power could make it easier for the Crucible to destroy the Reapers.
  Source:
  

  The Reaper Heart
  After Commander Shepard destroyed the Collector base, Cerberus spent months picking through irradiated rubble for anything useful. The human proto-Reaper the Collectors were building lay in pieces. But its incomplete core survived. The power cell would have been capable of fueling a full-fledged Reaper. After studying the device, Cerberus modified it to fuel the Illusive Man's base. Alliance engineers believe they can use the core similarly to power the Crucible.
  

• The Crucible uses interferometric arrays to track solar systems with Reaper activity.
  Source:

  Interferometric Array
  Normally interferometric arrays are used to analyze planetary landmasses, or to determine the astrophysical properties of stellar systems. The powerful array salvaged from the Hercules system can be used for something much more ambitious: the Crucible tunes into the mass relays' command switches. Installing the interferometric array into the Crucible's systems results in a real-time map of the entire galaxy, including the position of each and every Reaper in the Milky Way.

For those interested in the description of Crucible War assets.

Modifié par ABCoLD, 25 novembre 2012 - 06:05 .

[MegaSovereign]

Okay, I don't know why but every time I try to color code the thing it messes up the format and even deletes some of the entries.

[ABCoLD]

Working on it for you man

[MegaSovereign]

Thanks.

The war asset quotes shouldn't be blue. They're straight out of the game.

[ABCoLD]

No, they shouldn't.

[ABCoLD]

Gah, this is ridiculous. I'm formatting this properly, it's the board that can't handle it! I think... More tries.

[MegaSovereign]

Okay, fixed the formatting. Now I'll try to color code.

[ABCoLD]

I've got it MegaSovereign, it turns out that BSN doesn't like their bullet points being colored.

[MegaSovereign]

ABCoLD wrote...

I've got it MegaSovereign, it turns out that BSN doesn't like their bullet points being colored.

Yea, I figured. I'm thinking of removing them.

[ABCoLD]

Tell me how my color coding in my previous post compares to how you would do it. I also altered some of your wording in places to make it more consistent/less speculative in places where it didn't need to be.

[MegaSovereign]

BSN is driving me insane...

[ABCoLD]

Gimme a minute and I'll PM you a message to a post that has the code....

[MegaSovereign]

ABCoLD wrote...

Gimme a minute and I'll PM you a message to a post that has the code....

Okay.

Copy/Paste doesn't seem to be very effective though.

[ABCoLD]

MegaSovereign wrote...

ABCoLD wrote...

Gimme a minute and I'll PM you a message to a post that has the code....

Okay.

Copy/Paste doesn't seem to be very effective though.

Click on the BBCode button and paste over the existing text.

[MegaSovereign]

ABCoLD wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

ABCoLD wrote...

Gimme a minute and I'll PM you a message to a post that has the code....

Okay.

Copy/Paste doesn't seem to be very effective though.

Click on the BBCode button and paste over the existing text.

Okay, I'll try that then.

[ABCoLD]

Oh, and if you're using a notepad, make sure you have word wrap turned off.

[MegaSovereign]

Yes! It worked. Thank you!

[ABCoLD]

Not a prob, bob!

So, did you agree with my word choices for some of your thingies?

[MegaSovereign]

Okay so whenever I edit it at all the colors disappear. That means I need to use notepub.com to make edits. Do you mind if I start using that account?

And yes, I approve of the changes you made. Some of that stuff I wrote was before the EC came out so it needed some updating.

Modifié par MegaSovereign, 25 novembre 2012 - 06:33 .

[ABCoLD]

Yeah, that's fine. I've never used Notepub before anyway

And yeah, BSN forums are kinda special class when it comes to edits.

[MegaSovereign]

KingZayd wrote...

Some questions:
Why track the systems with Reapers inside, if you're just sending the energy wave throughout the galaxy indiscriminately?

It could be specific to the Control and Destroy functionality. Only in the Synthesis ending do we know that the Crucible's energy targets everything.

If the Citadel carries out most of the function of the Crucible, and the Crucible is basically a power source, what was the point of the Crucible before it was adapted to be used with the Citadel?

It's implied that the design had been changed to incorporate the Citadel. The Crucible could have originally been designed to handle targetting and be used as its own power source. Apparently it wasn't very efficient. The Citadel is the center of the mass relay network, so it's a lot more efficient to integrate that into the overall design. Also, I think Vendetta (?) said that it amplified its energy, so it could have been for that reason as well.

Modifié par MegaSovereign, 25 novembre 2012 - 06:52 .

[Valmarn]

David7204 wrote...

That is a stupid reason. It has nothing to do with 'egoism'

You think egotism is a poor reason for BioWare to refuse to make any changes that nullify any of the original endings?

Stop lying to yourself.

Egotism is why they refused to admit that the customer was right.

Egotism is why they invoked "artistic integity" as justification for refusing to change the endings, despite the fact that rushing the game already compromised their "artistic integrity."

Video games are art, yes, but the moment you try to sell art it, it becomes a piece of work. Certain things apply to a piece of work, like customer satisfaction, of which their egotism prevented them from acknowledging the importance.

[Valmarn]

MegaSovereign wrote...

KingZayd wrote...

Some questions:
Why track the systems with Reapers inside, if you're just sending the energy wave throughout the galaxy indiscriminately?

It could be specific to the Control and Destroy functionality. Only in the Synthesis ending do we know that the Crucible's energy targets everything.

But even in the Destroy ending, the energy still goes to every relay. While it's not impossible for there to be Reapers in every star cluster, it's highly unlikely that there would be any in the Hourglass Serpent Nebula by the end of the game, since the Citadel is moved to Sol.

At the very least it would have been nice for the Destroy and Control endings to show the beam skipping some of the relays, simply to indicate that it was only targetting the Reapers. Still, that might have only led to confusion with some players who noticed that some relays were getting missed so, perhaps it's for the best that the movies mostly only differ color.

Modifié par Valmarn, 26 novembre 2012 - 06:54 .