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[FPSBlake]

 I'm not sure exactly why I see so many complaints about infiltrators. They do a lot of damage and can slip enemies but who cares? Aren't co op Games about fun? It just blows my mind to see so many people complaining about somone on their team being too good. I mean really all an infiltrator nerf would do is make another useless class and lead players to find something else just as good.If you don't like infiltrators don't play in lobbies with them it's that simple. Complaining about a class so it gets nerfed won't make you any better at the game so who cares. Let's just let things be and have fun.

[Veedrock]

It's not fun to have a single dominating force/strategy in the game.

Nerfing Tactical Cloak would not make the class useless by any stretch of the imagination either, take your doomsday speak to a political convention.

Modifié par Veedrock, 14 juin 2012 - 05:57 .

[T1l]

Schadenfreude, mostly.

I honestly think this is a case of people taking pleasure in the misfortunes of others. It's not about balance, or people would be asking Bioware to 'buff' things. It's about taking something away from someone else, and it rustles my jimmies.

[Meatiershower]

Because the class causes a new thread on the same subject every two minutes.

[FPSBlake]

Veedrock wrote...

It's not fun to have a single dominating strategy in the game.

I agree with that but other classes are just as good! Look at almost every adept, most engineers and some soldier classes they're just as easy. Setting up biotic explosions and tech burts is just as effective and it has massive AOE. 

[FPSBlake]

T1l wrote...

Schadenfreude, mostly.

I honestly think this is a case of people taking pleasure in the misfortunes of others. It's not about balance, or people would be asking Bioware to 'buff' things. It's about taking something away from someone else, and it rustles my jimmies.

I agree man if people don't like infiltrators they shouldn't play with them but if someone else wants to that should be fine it doesn't make your game any less fun.

[xtorma]

People love crusades. This is the latest one.

[T1l]

FPSBlake wrote...

I agree man if people don't like infiltrators they shouldn't play with them but if someone else wants to that should be fine it doesn't make your game any less fun.

Spot on. It's a co-operative game. A lot of people seem to have a hard time understanding this concept.

[ericjdev]

There's no problem with infiltrator, it's a very small group complaining about them. Every time they do a poll infil gets much love and if you are playing, everyone is happy to see you. I usually play one and it's a great team player class, good for goals and healing and bailing a team out of bad spots. Haters gonna hate.

Modifié par ericjdev, 14 juin 2012 - 06:02 .

[Poison_Berrie]

T1l wrote...

Schadenfreude, mostly.

I honestly think this is a case of people taking pleasure in the misfortunes of others. It's not about balance, or people would be asking Bioware to 'buff' things. It's about taking something away from someone else, and it rustles my jimmies.

To be honest that buff would be to have weight not matter most of the time for other classes as well. Like a universal 4 seconds CD that they can't go above.

[BoomDynamite]

It isn't.

[Gust4v]

The only problem are the annoying nerfers.

Modifié par Gust4v, 14 juin 2012 - 06:12 .

[Methew]

Veedrock wrote...
Nerfing Tactical Cloak would not make the class useless

If TC gets nerfed to the point where the class can't two peice everything save minibosses with ED/Sab and a one shot sniper, then the class is going to be pretty close to useless.

[FPSBlake]

T1l wrote...

FPSBlake wrote...

I agree man if people don't like infiltrators they shouldn't play with them but if someone else wants to that should be fine it doesn't make your game any less fun.

Spot on. It's a co-operative game. A lot of people seem to have a hard time understanding this concept.

Yeah man. I don't know about you but I like having an infiltrator so I don't waste medigel. I think it's more an issue of skill gap. Regardless of what class or build you have good players are going to dominate and good players in this game just happen to like infiltrator. 

[Rorioku]

I don't suspect anyone to say anything because they'll just get trolled by the "SHUT UP YOU STUPID NERFER" or "co-op games dont need balance" kiddos.

[Cat Lionheart]

FPSBlake wrote...

 I'm not sure exactly why I see so many complaints about infiltrators. They do a lot of damage and can slip enemies but who cares? Aren't co op Games about fun? It just blows my mind to see so many people complaining about somone on their team being too good. I mean really all an infiltrator nerf would do is make another useless class and lead players to find something else just as good.If you don't like infiltrators don't play in lobbies with them it's that simple. Complaining about a class so it gets nerfed won't make you any better at the game so who cares. Let's just let things be and have fun.

Oh that is simple people are getting butt hurt by the fact an infiltrator with skill comes into their games and dominates, and their fragile E-peen can’t take the fact that they suck and need E-Viagra and so instead of admitting they suck they feel a need to attack infiltrators and the ability to tactical cloak.

[Rorioku]

And above is an example of such troll.

[FPSBlake]

Cat Lionheart wrote...

FPSBlake wrote...

 I'm not sure exactly why I see so many complaints about infiltrators. They do a lot of damage and can slip enemies but who cares? Aren't co op Games about fun? It just blows my mind to see so many people complaining about somone on their team being too good. I mean really all an infiltrator nerf would do is make another useless class and lead players to find something else just as good.If you don't like infiltrators don't play in lobbies with them it's that simple. Complaining about a class so it gets nerfed won't make you any better at the game so who cares. Let's just let things be and have fun.

Oh that is simple people are getting butt hurt by the fact an infiltrator with skill comes into their games and dominates, and their fragile E-peen can’t take the fact that they suck and need E-Viagra and so instead of admitting they suck they feel a need to attack infiltrators and the ability to tactical cloak.

I agree man Asari Adept is just as good and it gets biotic explosions. If people want to complain about every class and gun that beats them soon enough we'll all be like drell running aroud with predators.

[Mysterious Stranger 0.0]

Cloak provides the best utility in the game and the best weapon damage except HS AR or marksmen with hurricane.

They need to have 1 or the other not both. Having an infilly is too useful and makes many other classes look like trash in comparison. There is almost no point in playing an engineer or half the soldiers anymore because anything they can do an infilly can do better.

[Tracks182]

Yeah, about the only infiltrators who need a nerf are the ones who think the mooks I've primed with warp in the middle of a pack are lased for their sniping pleasure and consistently shoot them seemingly to prevent their impending biosplosion. But that's because they're annoying, not because they or the class they play is overpowered in any way.

Modifié par Tracks182, 14 juin 2012 - 06:17 .

[Ikilledkillab]

Another topic....lol

[FPSBlake]

Poison_Berrie wrote...

T1l wrote...

Schadenfreude, mostly.

I honestly think this is a case of people taking pleasure in the misfortunes of others. It's not about balance, or people would be asking Bioware to 'buff' things. It's about taking something away from someone else, and it rustles my jimmies.

To be honest that buff would be to have weight not matter most of the time for other classes as well. Like a universal 4 seconds CD that they can't go above.

A 4 second cooldown does nothing. If you run a claymore you're above 4 seconds anyway and it has little effect to overall effectiveness. 

[Mysterious Stranger 0.0]

FPSBlake wrote...

Cat Lionheart wrote...

FPSBlake wrote...

 I'm not sure exactly why I see so many complaints about infiltrators. They do a lot of damage and can slip enemies but who cares? Aren't co op Games about fun? It just blows my mind to see so many people complaining about somone on their team being too good. I mean really all an infiltrator nerf would do is make another useless class and lead players to find something else just as good.If you don't like infiltrators don't play in lobbies with them it's that simple. Complaining about a class so it gets nerfed won't make you any better at the game so who cares. Let's just let things be and have fun.

Oh that is simple people are getting butt hurt by the fact an infiltrator with skill comes into their games and dominates, and their fragile E-peen can’t take the fact that they suck and need E-Viagra and so instead of admitting they suck they feel a need to attack infiltrators and the ability to tactical cloak.

I agree man Asari Adept is just as good and it gets biotic explosions. If people want to complain about every class and gun that beats them soon enough we'll all be like drell running aroud with predators.

1.Drell are two of the most powerful classes in the game. 

2.The asari adept is not just as good. It does not have the same insane weapon damage, it is affected by weight, it can't avoid all enemy fire and reposition itself every 10 secs making it almost impossible to lose with, it can not revive teamates with little risk, and it can not solo objectives with ease.

[Mysterious Stranger 0.0]

Cat Lionheart wrote...

FPSBlake wrote...

 I'm not sure exactly why I see so many complaints about infiltrators. They do a lot of damage and can slip enemies but who cares? Aren't co op Games about fun? It just blows my mind to see so many people complaining about somone on their team being too good. I mean really all an infiltrator nerf would do is make another useless class and lead players to find something else just as good.If you don't like infiltrators don't play in lobbies with them it's that simple. Complaining about a class so it gets nerfed won't make you any better at the game so who cares. Let's just let things be and have fun.

Oh that is simple people are getting butt hurt by the fact an infiltrator with skill comes into their games and dominates, and their fragile E-peen can’t take the fact that they suck and need E-Viagra and so instead of admitting they suck they feel a need to attack infiltrators and the ability to tactical cloak.

0/10

How many times will you trolls use this arguement and continue to ignore what we're actually saying?

It has nothing to do with score

Modifié par Mysterious Stranger 0.0, 14 juin 2012 - 06:20 .

[Xx_Belzak_xX]

It's a problem because people are just upset about being outscored.

Infiltrators excel at killing
Adepts excel at biotics/BEs
Soldiers are good with any weapon you slap in their hands
Sentinels can make decent tanks
Vanguards from my experience each has their own play style
Engineers excel at debuffing enemies and crowd control.

So if you want to nerf the infiltrator for being better at killing than other classes, then I'd also suggest nerfing:

Adepts for being best at biotics
Soldiers for being good with all weapons
Vanguards for being the best at charging/restoring shields/barriers
Tech Armor should be nerfed, since they do it better than other classes
And Engineers should be nerfed for being better at debuffs and crowd control than other classes

All these "I have proof!" and "Infil is OP" is just utter idiocy. Nerfing a class because it is better at its purpose than others is the most bassackwards logic I've ever heard.

I will agree that Tactical Cloak could use a tweak or two. I think giving it a standard recharge like every other power in the game, and making its recharge suffer from weight like every other power would balance it out perfectly.

Modifié par Xx_Belzak_xX, 14 juin 2012 - 06:24 .