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Other than the Salarian, Engineers are unplayable


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AlienSpaceBats

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I agree that the Male Quarian Engineers are too similar but the Geth and Human Engineers are both excellent.

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I disagree, OP. As a support class, which that is what they are meant to be, any of the Engineers are fun to play.

Scoreboard-wise, they do not compete, but in actually helping out a team any and all of the Engineers are fun to play, and worthwhile on a team. My assists medal is usually out the roof.

I play my FQE with an Eviscerator with a 6/6/6/5/3 build, and can do pretty well on gold. Once she gets a buff... *crosses fingers* hopefully she will do even better, and if I ever get my Wraith levelled up enough to use. I would love to see some other version of a FQE as they did with the AA and AJ, but until then I feel pretty comfortable with her. I can solo Bronze with her (FINALLY!), do fine in Silver, and survive and help on Gold.

Edit: Got dropped into a Sur'kesh (whatever that buggy map is called)/Gold/Cerberus match last night... friends didn't tell me they had already started the match. LOL! No equipment, just my poor, un-suspecting FQE........... and I did fine. Maybe got downed 3x? By Phantoms. :( but that's about it, and had an absolute BLAST!

Modifié par sliverofamoon, 14 juin 2012 - 10:35 .


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mightysasquatch

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also my QME carried my team on jade v reaper & he's only at level 14. Soloing at least two rounds with banshee's & brute's

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I don't know what the OP is smoking about the Male Quarian Engineer. That guy is a murder-factory. Just walk into a room, throw down an arc grenade, and incinerate/tech burst everything until it's all dead. I joined a random FBW/Geth/Gold match and topped the board with 130k pretty effortlessly.

I thought the Infiltrator version would be even better, but in practice Arc Grenade + Incinerate >>> Cloak + Arc Grenade, surprisingly.

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OP, play something other than fbwgg farming. It will broaden horizons, you know. ^)
1) Male QE is one of the most powerful classes. Arc grenades let you clear spawns and make kill streaks. Incinerate + arc grenade makes spectacular fire explosions, the first is good for softening big mobs and killing trash. Last but not least - tac scan allows you to guide team efforts against dangerous mobs. One of my most favourite.
2) GE is damn good supporting class with overload and turret(healing or DPS). You can also make him deadly Geth infantryman with flamer turret and HM.

Modifié par Star fury, 14 juin 2012 - 10:32 .


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sliverofamoon wrote...
Scoreboard-wise, they do not compete

With what?

QME - 
140k Gold Run 
Geth - 
100k 

Not even their max score potentials. 

Spec them right and they can score hog with the rest of em'!

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Tokenusername wrote...

So you chose the lazy power DLC to make your point as to why an entire class is obsilete?

Human engineer is a tech master beyond compare, gethgineer can heal himself AND others.
Quarian engineer is the only one that is arguably not very good, and the devs are planning a buff for her next week.



Disagree about the FQE.  Cryo Blast is the best debuffer in the game.  25% debuff to all enemies, additional 25% debuff to armored opponents.  So while not a great offensive class, the FQE is a great teammate to have.

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BuckshotSamurai wrote...
Proximity Mine is the best debuffer in the game. 



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astheoceansblue wrote...

BuckshotSamurai wrote...
Proximity Mine is the best debuffer in the game. 


Nah.

Death is the best debuffer in the game. :D

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astheoceansblue wrote...

BuckshotSamurai wrote...
Proximity Mine is the best debuffer in the game. 

It sure is.

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sliverofamoon

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astheoceansblue wrote...

sliverofamoon wrote...
Scoreboard-wise, they do not compete

With what?

QME - 
140k Gold Run 
Geth - 
100k 

Not even their max score potentials. 

Spec them right and they can score hog with the rest of em'!


I know you are right in this, I do, but mainly I am a support type of player. I mainly keep an eye out on the rest of my team with my Engineers, stand back, defuff, or freeze (I pretty much only play my HE, or FQE when I play my Engineers, which is at least 3-4 matches a night), and toss my turret where I see it's needed most. Same kind of playstyle I have with my Adepts, and Infiltrators.

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Aouno wrote...

Geth Engineer would like to have a word with you.


Seriously, perhaps one of the most useful characters for multiplayer gold.

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sliverofamoon wrote...

I can solo Bronze with her (FINALLY!), do fine in Silver, and survive and help on Gold.


:wizard::wizard::wizard:

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Have to disagree I am awesome with my Geth Engineer, especially aganist Geth, but with a Carnifex that I almost never miss with and my overload maxed out for damage I am great on Gold with this guy. It is not my fav way to play but he is incredibly effective and if the enemy is Geth I almost am always the top scorer.

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sliverofamoon

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Zjarcal wrote...

sliverofamoon wrote...

I can solo Bronze with her (FINALLY!), do fine in Silver, and survive and help on Gold.


:wizard::wizard::wizard:


LOL Yah, thanks Z! Had to use all my rockets and medigels though! But yah, Z is simply an AMAZING player, and I am totally in AWE of her skills! Been dead in spectator mode in games with her on Gold, and I'm always like... HOW does she DO THAT!!!

Modifié par sliverofamoon, 14 juin 2012 - 10:52 .


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 people can say the Female Quarian Engineer is unplayable all they want. I still use that character all the time =)

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Is the OP for realz? I play all the Engineers, I think they're awesome.

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I'm anticipating the moment when OP tries to play Drells...

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Not trying to boast or anything, but my Human Engineer (a support class) outscored the OP's Asari Vanguard on Dagger/Reaper/Silver about 1.5 weeks ago.

I play the HE about 80% of the time. It's an amazing all-rounder, excellent for when you don't know what enemy you're going to get.

I've also noticed the drone can be positioned just so to completely stop a Brute in its tracks. It's really nifty Image IPB

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TheCourier_1 wrote...
Not trying to boast or anything, but my Human Engineer (a support class) outscored the OP's Asari Vanguard on Dagger/Reaper/Silver about 1.5 weeks ago.

Tbh, I don't think many people would consider that a boast. :P

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OK, I'll try to tone it down a bit next time :-)

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molecularman wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

You mean SI energy drain.

HI, GI, and QI do not have a power tailored specifically to remove specific defenses. Sabotage will only remove shields from weak enemies if you spec for backfire.

If all of the infiltrators were better at removing enemy defenses than Engineers, then all of the infiltrators would use sniper rifles, and the "SI is the best sniper, all others should use a shotgun" mentality would die already. you would also probably see fewer Geth Engineers with sniper rifles, because if the GI had a power to remove shields, he would clearly be the superior sniper in every imaginable situation.

And what exactly can a GE do against armor, huh?

It might also be worth mentioning a cloaked proximity mine doesn't do much less damage than energy drain used by an engineer and it definitely does more damage than incinerate. Plus, there is that little debuff thingie.

HIs have that debuff as well, wouldn't that be support or what, that thing specific to engineers?

And QI.. Well, not all infiltrators are top-tier infiltrators.


"What can a GE do against armor?"

HURDUR... It can use a Geth Plasma Shotgun HURDUR

GPS ignores armor resistance to damage. DUH.

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Okay, I laughed. Really did. Good one TO. The Quarian Engineer, who lots of people consider the worst character in the game can do very well on Gold AND, if you care about it, on the scoreboard as well. Although it won't top the board if there are more powerful characters and good players using them.

sliverofamoon wrote...

I can solo Bronze with her (FINALLY!), do fine in Silver, and survive and help on Gold.



Congratulations my dear friend! Will be draggin' you onto Gold duos soon enough if you keep going that way! :wizard:

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XxTaLoNxX wrote...

molecularman wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

You mean SI energy drain.

HI, GI, and QI do not have a power tailored specifically to remove specific defenses. Sabotage will only remove shields from weak enemies if you spec for backfire.

If all of the infiltrators were better at removing enemy defenses than Engineers, then all of the infiltrators would use sniper rifles, and the "SI is the best sniper, all others should use a shotgun" mentality would die already. you would also probably see fewer Geth Engineers with sniper rifles, because if the GI had a power to remove shields, he would clearly be the superior sniper in every imaginable situation.

And what exactly can a GE do against armor, huh?

It might also be worth mentioning a cloaked proximity mine doesn't do much less damage than energy drain used by an engineer and it definitely does more damage than incinerate. Plus, there is that little debuff thingie.

HIs have that debuff as well, wouldn't that be support or what, that thing specific to engineers?

And QI.. Well, not all infiltrators are top-tier infiltrators.


"What can a GE do against armor?"

HURDUR... It can use a Geth Plasma Shotgun HURDUR

GPS ignores armor resistance to damage. DUH.


Also, turret spec'ed for armor damage and flamethrower. Eats armored targets ALIVE...

Oh and my QI would like to have a word with Molecularman about not being top tier.

Bring a pair of binoculars. You don't want her to spot you first.

Modifié par Adhok42, 14 juin 2012 - 11:54 .


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 lolwut