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holdenagincourt

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I might take a Geth for a spin if you know what I mean.... ;)

But not Data. He's too...person-like.

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My Human Male, Human Female and Quarian Male Engineers would all like to disagree with that statement in the first post. Four of my top five scores are with my Human Male: 122k, 121k, 120k, and 119k (all with some change thrown in the ,000 spots)

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Adragalus wrote...

I'm afraid that the fanart will be quite robosexual when your mods arrive...


not to mention it will be sad, i dont think the game would benefit from making every engineer play out like this.

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instead of the awesome support machine they already are. Allthough QME is not far off ;D

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Holy hell, I can't stop laughing at that Sovereign pic. Kudos, sir.

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Rifneno wrote...

Holy hell, I can't stop laughing at that Sovereign pic. Kudos, sir.


thank you :D that picture felt exactly the way the engineer would go if it got a buff. they are allready a balanced class. but if you buff them, geesh it becomes an all around murder machine no matter who you play with and against what. no matter what happens, and i can only imagine when people start whining about them being OP as ****. The nerf hammer would hit them harder than a dreadnaught crash landing on their face. Thus potentially gimping the class to something less than it is now(balanced) which is why i allways laugh at threads demanding some balance fix in a coop game xD  if they would only look at the balance changes thread, they would see that BW is doing balance micromanagement all...the...time.

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You're doing it wrong. All engineers except the quarian female are great if you know how to play.

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A Wild Snorlax wrote...

You're doing it wrong. All engineers except the quarian female are great if you know how to play.


The FMQE is Great if you know how to play her, hit me on Xbox and I'll show you.

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Geth Turret.
OP's post is now invalid

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TheSpookyAce

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Actually salarian engineer is my least favorite engineer right now. So...

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CmnDwnWrkn

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A Wild Snorlax wrote...

You're doing it wrong. All engineers except the quarian female are great if you know how to play.


You complained about my "trolling" in another thread, you reported me for that thread, yet you revive a thread I started that is two weeks old.  Well done.

For the record, Engineers are playable.  They're just too similar to their Infiltrator counterparts to justify using them in many cases (imo).

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I don't know, my HME with chain overload for crowd control usually sees me through. I'm weird though, I stay away from the popular races/weapons (Geth, Salarian, Krysae).

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A Wild Snorlax wrote...

You're doing it wrong. All engineers except the quarian female are great if you know how to play.

I actually think she is viable after the recent buffs. Heck after all the sabotage, and TC nerfs she is almost on par with her infilitrator counterpart.

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WaffleCrab wrote...

Adragalus wrote...

I'm afraid that the fanart will be quite robosexual when your mods arrive...


not to mention it will be sad, i dont think the game would benefit from making every engineer play out like this.

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instead of the awesome support machine they already are. Allthough QME is not far off ;D


That is best picture I have seen all day.  QME is a walking kill streak with area incinerate + arc grenades.  The human engineer is great at both CC with the Drone and Overload, but also tech bursts. The QFE is an jiggly bum-bummed ice queen against reapers, and the Geth Engineer can be a healer, CC master, and a debuffer.

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CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

A Wild Snorlax wrote...

You're doing it wrong. All engineers except the quarian female are great if you know how to play.


You complained about my "trolling" in another thread, you reported me for that thread, yet you revive a thread I started that is two weeks old.  Well done.

For the record, Engineers are playable.  They're just too similar to their Infiltrator counterparts to justify using them in many cases (imo).


Especially as the thread is redundant now that the HE and QE have been so massively buffed.

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CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

With the exception of the Salarian's Decoy and Energy Drain, this class simply does not have anything going for it.  Engineers are supposed to be tech specialists, but Infiltrators have equal tech abilties AND much better combat abilties.  As a result, Engineer, generally speaking, is an obsolete class.  The Engineers need SOMETHING to make them the undisputed tech specialists in the game.  With the relatively weak tech powers they have, they effectively don't specialize in anything that a separate class doesn't have.

A perfect illustration of this is the Quarian Male Engineer vs. the Quarian Male Infiltrator.  These two characters are identical in two powers - tactical scan and arc grenade.  The difference is in the third power.  Infiltrator gets tac cloak, Engineer gets....Incinerate.

Please improve this class!  It is much needed!


QME is easily as good as QMI imo.
Arc Grenade followed by an Incinerate = Tech Bursts.
Add in TS for the Banshees, Primes, Atlas and you have a very powerful, well balanced character.

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 My Human engineer with carnifex dropping everything down with incinerate and chain overload while the enemies are distracted by my drone ready to blow up on their faces and do AOE stagger to everything around it disagrees with you

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CmnDwnWrkn

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Loladan79 wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

With the exception of the Salarian's Decoy and Energy Drain, this class simply does not have anything going for it.  Engineers are supposed to be tech specialists, but Infiltrators have equal tech abilties AND much better combat abilties.  As a result, Engineer, generally speaking, is an obsolete class.  The Engineers need SOMETHING to make them the undisputed tech specialists in the game.  With the relatively weak tech powers they have, they effectively don't specialize in anything that a separate class doesn't have.

A perfect illustration of this is the Quarian Male Engineer vs. the Quarian Male Infiltrator.  These two characters are identical in two powers - tactical scan and arc grenade.  The difference is in the third power.  Infiltrator gets tac cloak, Engineer gets....Incinerate.

Please improve this class!  It is much needed!


QME is easily as good as QMI imo.
Arc Grenade followed by an Incinerate = Tech Bursts.
Add in TS for the Banshees, Primes, Atlas and you have a very powerful, well balanced character.


Exactamundo dude!

Scudman_Alpha wrote...

 My Human engineer with carnifex
dropping everything down with incinerate and chain overload while the
enemies are distracted by my drone ready to blow up on their faces and
do AOE stagger to everything around it disagrees with you


I disagree with the two-week-old me as well. :P

Modifié par CmnDwnWrkn, 27 juin 2012 - 07:27 .


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Loladan79

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CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

Loladan79 wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

With the exception of the Salarian's Decoy and Energy Drain, this class simply does not have anything going for it.  Engineers are supposed to be tech specialists, but Infiltrators have equal tech abilties AND much better combat abilties.  As a result, Engineer, generally speaking, is an obsolete class.  The Engineers need SOMETHING to make them the undisputed tech specialists in the game.  With the relatively weak tech powers they have, they effectively don't specialize in anything that a separate class doesn't have.

A perfect illustration of this is the Quarian Male Engineer vs. the Quarian Male Infiltrator.  These two characters are identical in two powers - tactical scan and arc grenade.  The difference is in the third power.  Infiltrator gets tac cloak, Engineer gets....Incinerate.

Please improve this class!  It is much needed!


QME is easily as good as QMI imo.
Arc Grenade followed by an Incinerate = Tech Bursts.
Add in TS for the Banshees, Primes, Atlas and you have a very powerful, well balanced character.


Exactamundo dude!

My apologies.  I did not look at the date of the original post.Image IPB

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CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

Tokenusername wrote...

So you chose the lazy power DLC to make your point as to why an entire class is obsilete?

Human engineer is a tech master beyond compare, gethgineer can heal himself AND others.
Quarian engineer is the only one that is arguably not very good, and the devs are planning a buff for her next week.


They're all weak.  The Salarian is the only one that isn't completely outclassed by other characters in the game.

hijackerjack wrote...

This isn't a very good argument
imo.. I use engineers all the times, especially the Human Male and Geth.
They're perfectly fine. You just have to set them up well.


They're unplayable in comparison to other characters in the game.  Playing with one is making a deliberate decision to play with a relatively weak character.


Uh HE are amazing.  Sure the SE can CC with Decoy, but I don't think it's nearly as effective as shockball + overload CC.  Entire groups being CC'ed and set up for tech bursts.  It's awesome.

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CmnDwnWrkn

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Loladan79 wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

Loladan79 wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

With the exception of the Salarian's Decoy and Energy Drain, this class simply does not have anything going for it.  Engineers are supposed to be tech specialists, but Infiltrators have equal tech abilties AND much better combat abilties.  As a result, Engineer, generally speaking, is an obsolete class.  The Engineers need SOMETHING to make them the undisputed tech specialists in the game.  With the relatively weak tech powers they have, they effectively don't specialize in anything that a separate class doesn't have.

A perfect illustration of this is the Quarian Male Engineer vs. the Quarian Male Infiltrator.  These two characters are identical in two powers - tactical scan and arc grenade.  The difference is in the third power.  Infiltrator gets tac cloak, Engineer gets....Incinerate.

Please improve this class!  It is much needed!


QME is easily as good as QMI imo.
Arc Grenade followed by an Incinerate = Tech Bursts.
Add in TS for the Banshees, Primes, Atlas and you have a very powerful, well balanced character.


Exactamundo dude!

My apologies.  I did not look at the date of the original post.Image IPB


Sorry, I responded to the wrong person.  I meant to say "exactamundo dude" to the person who said the thread redundant now.

But I 've also played more with the Engineer since then, and I have a newfound appreciation for some of their abilities, so I agree with you as well. :)

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Loladan79 wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

With the exception of the Salarian's Decoy and Energy Drain, this class simply does not have anything going for it.  Engineers are supposed to be tech specialists, but Infiltrators have equal tech abilties AND much better combat abilties.  As a result, Engineer, generally speaking, is an obsolete class.  The Engineers need SOMETHING to make them the undisputed tech specialists in the game.  With the relatively weak tech powers they have, they effectively don't specialize in anything that a separate class doesn't have.

A perfect illustration of this is the Quarian Male Engineer vs. the Quarian Male Infiltrator.  These two characters are identical in two powers - tactical scan and arc grenade.  The difference is in the third power.  Infiltrator gets tac cloak, Engineer gets....Incinerate.

Please improve this class!  It is much needed!


QME is easily as good as QMI imo.
Arc Grenade followed by an Incinerate = Tech Bursts.
Add in TS for the Banshees, Primes, Atlas and you have a very powerful, well balanced character.


I'd have taken the QME over the QMI even before the TC nerfs.  As long as you have grenades, the Quarian Males is awesome.  I like putting the harrier on him spreading death from ammo box to ammo box.:D

Modifié par UKStory135, 27 juin 2012 - 07:43 .


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What I don't even

All engineers are awesome except FQE. MQE is the tech version of drell adept but not as squishy. Throw disruptor rounds on and they can all self tech burst.

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CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

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If I can manage 100-140k every Gold game as a FQE or GE they can't be that "unplayable".

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MQE... so amazing. Fire explosions, Tech explosions, non frickin stop. The MQI can't compare with that, and is actually a worse class, even before the TC nerf.

The Human engineer with Overload + Incinerate is also good, but pales in the shadow of the MQE. The geth engineer is quite simply amazing as well.

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OP is retarded. I play HE pretty much 80% of the time and I consistently finish first or second - not that position matters but it's to make my point that they can do serious damage.

Weilding a Carnifex or hurricane with cryo ammo, it's a powerhouse of fire explosions and tech bursts.

Still, it depends on your preferences I suppose. IMHO, any of the Krogan classes are unplayable, but others seem to like them.