Umm.... Are you trolling?
Of course you're not. Engineer is a solid class.
Human engineer is an undisputed tech master, two crowd control skill (overload and bot), able to deal decent damage to armor/shield/health with overload and incinerate.
Salarian got decoy for CC with energy drain to deal with shield.
Geth engineer is the only medic in MP. Hunter mode is still good after balance change.
Quarian will be loved next week
Other than the Salarian, Engineers are unplayable
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#27
Posté 14 juin 2012 - 06:38
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Unplayable? Nah. As good as other classes? No.
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Posté 14 juin 2012 - 06:38
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The only major issue with the Engineer class, is the difficulty in setting off tech explosions (I mean all not just tech bursts).
If Engineers could reliably set off tech explosions like Biotic classes can with biotic combos, they'd be much stronger.
Right now, they're not "unplayable" but they arent as strong as the Biotic combo classes, or the Infiltrators. The scoreboards also never value stripping protections or distracting enemies as much as they should, so your value in combat isnt as clearly obvious.
For what its worth, the class is a lot better once you've maxed most weapons, giving you firepower to backup your tech abilities. With low level weapons, that either weigh a ton, or dont deal high amounts of damage, you're stucking casting less, taking weight passives, or simply shooting spitballs.
The most lacking Engineer is the Female Quarian, especially due to the bugged incinerate rank 6 evo. Like I said though, if tech explosions are changed for easier/more reliable use, the Engineer class as a whole will change dramatically.
If Engineers could reliably set off tech explosions like Biotic classes can with biotic combos, they'd be much stronger.
Right now, they're not "unplayable" but they arent as strong as the Biotic combo classes, or the Infiltrators. The scoreboards also never value stripping protections or distracting enemies as much as they should, so your value in combat isnt as clearly obvious.
For what its worth, the class is a lot better once you've maxed most weapons, giving you firepower to backup your tech abilities. With low level weapons, that either weigh a ton, or dont deal high amounts of damage, you're stucking casting less, taking weight passives, or simply shooting spitballs.
The most lacking Engineer is the Female Quarian, especially due to the bugged incinerate rank 6 evo. Like I said though, if tech explosions are changed for easier/more reliable use, the Engineer class as a whole will change dramatically.
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Posté 14 juin 2012 - 06:38
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Another good thing going for Engineers is that they are almost equally good against any faction.
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Posté 14 juin 2012 - 06:38
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Human engineer is outfitted with the tools for any situation and any type of defense
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Posté 14 juin 2012 - 06:38
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UKStory135 wrote...
The HE > HI. Overload and Incinerate are better than Cryo Blast and Sticky Grenades. The Combat Drone is great at CC. There are ways to be a good player without dominating the score board.
You forgot to mention HI's cloak.
The thing that makes it outclass HE.
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Posté 14 juin 2012 - 06:40
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I think it comes down to how each individuals play. I've used available Engineer and I see plus and minuses to them all. Over all though, I think it's a good class.
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Posté 14 juin 2012 - 06:41
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Engineers are like a Saab in the car world. Not particularly great at anything, just different. That makes them unplayable to me.
Okay, I'm starting to agree with the Geth Eng in addition to the Salarian. The rest of them aren't better in any particular area than any other class. Stasis alone is better crowd control than any ability or abilties that engineers have.
Okay, I'm starting to agree with the Geth Eng in addition to the Salarian. The rest of them aren't better in any particular area than any other class. Stasis alone is better crowd control than any ability or abilties that engineers have.
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#35
Posté 14 juin 2012 - 06:43
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Wouldn't the simpler solution be to not play as them then and not make a complaint thread?
#36
Posté 14 juin 2012 - 06:44
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crypticevincar wrote...
Wouldn't the simpler solution be to not play as them then and not make a complaint thread?
Would the simpler solution be to leave the thread and not post this?
#37
Posté 14 juin 2012 - 06:44
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CmnDwnWrkn wrote...
Engineers are like a Saab in the car world. Not particularly great at anything, just different. That makes them unplayable to me.
Keyword here. You suck when you play engineer. Deal with it.
The Engineer class is fine as it is.
#38
Posté 14 juin 2012 - 06:45
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Geth Engineer is awesome. The nerf hammer did not slow him down much (if at all). Maybe you just haven't spec'ed him a way that works for you if you can't use him. Myself I find using the turret for healing purposes makes him nearly unstoppable as long as you are careful. Over load is great for striping shields, and a gun with armor penetration mod is also a good option for the geth. I was using the Eagle today, and it was quite a nice combo.
Oh, hunter mode is still good for making your powers cool down faster, giving you a bit of a heads up on enemies location, and of course making you move faster is always a plus.
Oh, hunter mode is still good for making your powers cool down faster, giving you a bit of a heads up on enemies location, and of course making you move faster is always a plus.
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Posté 14 juin 2012 - 06:45
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Nissun wrote...
CmnDwnWrkn wrote...
Engineers are like a Saab in the car world. Not particularly great at anything, just different. That makes them unplayable to me.
Keyword here. You suck when you play engineer. Deal with it.
The Engineer class is fine as it is.
Everyone does. And you suck in general.
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Posté 14 juin 2012 - 06:45
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CmnDwnWrkn wrote...
With the exception of the Salarian's Decoy *snip*
Please improve this class! It is much needed!
There are some engeneers that very much need some love, and rumor has it that the QfemaleE is in for an overhaul. That said, i find my GE, specced for shield stripping and restoring is quite playable. Although he is no where near specced as offencively as he could be, i do just fine with him in terms of damage, and people seem to like it very much to have a turret on the team that restores shields all the time.
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Posté 14 juin 2012 - 06:45
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CmnDwnWrkn wrote...
crypticevincar wrote...
Wouldn't the simpler solution be to not play as them then and not make a complaint thread?
Would the simpler solution be to leave the thread and not post this?
Wouldn't the more original reply be not copying my sentence structure?
Anyway, to your comment about the Gengineer. I love me some HM with AP on my weapon. Be warned though that some people not quite up on HOW AP works will threaten to report you for hacking. Jus'sayin.
#42
Posté 14 juin 2012 - 06:45
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Human Engineer
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Male Quarian Engineer
Salarian Engineer
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Posté 14 juin 2012 - 06:46
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CmnDwnWrkn wrote...
Nissun wrote...
CmnDwnWrkn wrote...
Engineers are like a Saab in the car world. Not particularly great at anything, just different. That makes them unplayable to me.
Keyword here. You suck when you play engineer. Deal with it.
The Engineer class is fine as it is.
Everyone does. And you suck in general.
Oh yeah?
Well...
Your face sucks in general!!
Modifié par Nissun, 14 juin 2012 - 06:46 .
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Posté 14 juin 2012 - 06:46
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CmnDwnWrkn wrote...
A perfect illustration of this is the Quarian Male Engineer vs. the Quarian Male Infiltrator. These two characters are identical in two powers - tactical scan and arc grenade. The difference is in the third power. Infiltrator gets tac cloak, Engineer gets....Incinerate.
I've said it before on the previous "buff QFE" thread, and I'll say it again because it needs repeating:
You need to stop looking at Incinerate as a stand alone skill. Incinerate synergizes perfectly with Arc Grenades, making the QME the only class that can reliably set up his own Tech Bursts/Fire Explosions. QMI can do more damage per grenade, but without Tech Bursts, he's still not as good at crowd control compared to the QME.
And if you compared them to their own class, QME is quite possibly the best offensive Engineer save a Flamethrower turret GE, while QMI plays like a gimped GI and lacks the survivability of SI.
Modifié par sigma_draconis, 14 juin 2012 - 06:47 .
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Posté 14 juin 2012 - 06:47
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Nissun wrote...
CmnDwnWrkn wrote...
Nissun wrote...
CmnDwnWrkn wrote...
Engineers are like a Saab in the car world. Not particularly great at anything, just different. That makes them unplayable to me.
Keyword here. You suck when you play engineer. Deal with it.
The Engineer class is fine as it is.
Everyone does. And you suck in general.
Oh yeah?
Well...
Your face sucks in general!!
lol
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Posté 14 juin 2012 - 06:47
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Lee80alabama wrote...
Geth Engineer is awesome. The nerf hammer did not slow him down much (if at all). Maybe you just haven't spec'ed him a way that works for you if you can't use him. Myself I find using the turret for healing purposes makes him nearly unstoppable as long as you are careful. Over load is great for striping shields, and a gun with armor penetration mod is also a good option for the geth. I was using the Eagle today, and it was quite a nice combo.
Oh, hunter mode is still good for making your powers cool down faster, giving you a bit of a heads up on enemies location, and of course making you move faster is always a plus.
Geth Engineer is good, but any time I play him I myself why I'm not playing Geth Infil instead. I feel that Geth Infil makes Geth Eng obsolete. But that's just my opinion.
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Posté 14 juin 2012 - 06:48
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The quarian male engineer can keep up with any class in the game. Arc grenades and incinerate have great synergy.
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Posté 14 juin 2012 - 06:48
CmnDwnWrkn
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Nissun wrote...
CmnDwnWrkn wrote...
Nissun wrote...
CmnDwnWrkn wrote...
Engineers are like a Saab in the car world. Not particularly great at anything, just different. That makes them unplayable to me.
Keyword here. You suck when you play engineer. Deal with it.
The Engineer class is fine as it is.
Everyone does. And you suck in general.
Oh yeah?
Well...
Your face sucks in general!!
Hilarious. Every post from you so far has been worthless. We're having a discussion here.
#49
Posté 14 juin 2012 - 06:49
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CmnDwnWrkn wrote...
With the exception of the Salarian's Decoy and Energy Drain, this class simply does not have anything going for it. Engineers are supposed to be tech specialists, but Infiltrators have equal tech abilties AND much better combat abilties. As a result, Engineer, generally speaking, is an obsolete class. The Engineers need SOMETHING to make them the undisputed tech specialists in the game. With the relatively weak tech powers they have, they effectively don't specialize in anything that a separate class doesn't have.
Please improve this class! It is much needed!
Engineers are playable what are you smoking?
#50
Posté 14 juin 2012 - 06:50
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My Geth Engineer was pretty happy, until he got a software downgrade. Its like some virus has infected his hunter vision now. And if they don't fix the Hunter Mode strain, my own eyes are probably going to worse off someday too.
