Other than the Salarian, Engineers are unplayable
#76
Posté 14 juin 2012 - 07:10
#77
Posté 14 juin 2012 - 07:14
Geth Engineer is THE BEST overload spammer in the game, even if not the most durable. Geth Engineers are very frequently played, and quite capable.
mQuarians are solid, and have higher shield stripping burst-DPS than the others, though they lack consistant shield stripping spam. Their Tac Scan is a great power across the board, and they make great allies.
Only the fQuarian is lackluster.
#78
Posté 14 juin 2012 - 07:15
#79
Posté 14 juin 2012 - 07:15
Overload is an excellent power though, one of my favorites. Some of the other tech powers are pretty good too. Yes, the Salarian Engineer is the easiest to play well, but that doesn't make the others worthless.
#80
Posté 14 juin 2012 - 07:20
Modifié par Charlie Bell, 14 juin 2012 - 07:22 .
#81
Posté 14 juin 2012 - 07:21
#82
Posté 14 juin 2012 - 07:21
#83
Posté 14 juin 2012 - 07:22
Ashen Earth wrote...
You sure do post a lot of threads about game balance for someone who doesn't understand that not every class is supposed to have the same role in a team, OP.
Good for you. Thanks for telling me what I understand. You definitely are the expert.
#84
Posté 14 juin 2012 - 07:23
Ashen Earth wrote...
You sure do post a lot of threads about game balance for someone who doesn't understand that not every class is supposed to have the same role in a team, OP.
he wasn't asking for them to play the same role, only for them to excel more at their specific role than thier infiltrator counterparts. Read.
#85
Posté 14 juin 2012 - 07:24
essarr71 wrote...
Someone doesn't know how to play an engineer.
#86
Posté 14 juin 2012 - 07:24
#87
Posté 14 juin 2012 - 07:25
Engis are probably my fav. I love em all, except that Quarian Male...he hasn't proven his worth to me yet
#88
Posté 14 juin 2012 - 07:26
CmnDwnWrkn wrote...
Good for you. Thanks for telling me what I understand. You definitely are the expert.
Might I ask, simply out of curiousity, whatever made you pick the Salarian engineer as the best? Outside of FBWGG, the Salarian Engineer is super rare... even on Bronze/Silver no one seems to play the SE much. All the other engineers (yes, the Quarian female even) I see far more often, compared to the SE.
#89
Posté 14 juin 2012 - 07:26
#90
Posté 14 juin 2012 - 07:26
DNC Protoman wrote...
Ashen Earth wrote...
You sure do post a lot of threads about game balance for someone who doesn't understand that not every class is supposed to have the same role in a team, OP.
he wasn't asking for them to play the same role, only for them to excel more at their specific role than thier infiltrator counterparts. Read.
Yeah, I mean, my intent was not to insult people who play the class. It was to suggest an overall buff to Engineers' tech powers. But it seems like people generally don't want that, and are okay with the relative strength of the class as-is.
#91
Posté 14 juin 2012 - 07:28
FellishBeast wrote...
Can't tell if trolling or just incredibly stupid.
Engis are probably my fav. I love em all, except that Quarian Male...he hasn't proven his worth to me yet
You're a genius, and I'm incredibly stupid. Deal with it.
P51Mus7ang wrote...
Had a quick look at your Manifest, try
a QME, 0/6/6/6/6 build, damage, extra grenade, focus on health/shields,
put your Krysae on, your Grenade gear pack, Level I, 2 or 3 Power Eff
Module on, if you want to support the team's effort and do massive
damage control, look out as this set up has save the team I play with
many times.
Ok, thanks, I'll give it a go.
Modifié par CmnDwnWrkn, 14 juin 2012 - 07:29 .
#92
Posté 14 juin 2012 - 07:28
I'd hurry. They've got Incinerate, Overload, Arc Grenades and Geth Turrets pointed at you.
#93
Posté 14 juin 2012 - 07:28
If you compared some other class to infys like that you'd probably say they're useless, too.
#94
Posté 14 juin 2012 - 07:28
But I'm not going to say the other engineers are awful, because they still have their uses. Different uses, but uses nonetheless.
#95
Posté 14 juin 2012 - 07:30
CmnDwnWrkn wrote...
DNC Protoman wrote...
Ashen Earth wrote...
You sure do post a lot of threads about game balance for someone who doesn't understand that not every class is supposed to have the same role in a team, OP.
he wasn't asking for them to play the same role, only for them to excel more at their specific role than thier infiltrator counterparts. Read.
Yeah, I mean, my intent was not to insult people who play the class. It was to suggest an overall buff to Engineers' tech powers. But it seems like people generally don't want that, and are okay with the relative strength of the class as-is.
they should want that. It was mentioned before- adding a passive bonus to each class that would help it top the other with abilites it's meant to be best at. Not a huge passive boost, but something.
#96
Posté 14 juin 2012 - 07:30
CmnDwnWrkn wrote...
With the exception of the Salarian's Decoy and Energy Drain, this class simply does not have anything going for it. Engineers are supposed to be tech specialists, but Infiltrators have equal tech abilties AND much better combat abilties. As a result, Engineer, generally speaking, is an obsolete class. The Engineers need SOMETHING to make them the undisputed tech specialists in the game. With the relatively weak tech powers they have, they effectively don't specialize in anything that a separate class doesn't have.
A perfect illustration of this is the Quarian Male Engineer vs. the Quarian Male Infiltrator. These two characters are identical in two powers - tactical scan and arc grenade. The difference is in the third power. Infiltrator gets tac cloak, Engineer gets....Incinerate.
Please improve this class! It is much needed!
I am sorry but i cant stop laughing xD
Lets see... the engineer is useless apart from SE if you look it at only from a geth farm point of view:whistle:
the QME with hes arc nades and incinerate and tac scan = instant murder machine.
The QFE with her cryo explosions that snap freeze and chill targets for massive extra damage with her flamer turret = another murder machine when played right.
Human engineers = incinnerate setting off tech bursts while dealing massive amounts of damage to armored targets at the same time.... yeah useless:whistle:
Geth engineers with with flamer / shield regen turret and a godly powerfull overload... Yeah useless too...
I think the OP here is a case of unexperienced player. I say the same thing i have said a countless times. there are no good or bad classes. only good or bad players.
#97
Posté 14 juin 2012 - 07:31
Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...
UKStory135 wrote...
The HE > HI. Overload and Incinerate are better than Cryo Blast and Sticky Grenades. The Combat Drone is great at CC. There are ways to be a good player without dominating the score board.
You forgot to mention HI's cloak.
The thing that makes it outclass HE.
No, I didn't. The HI has a much worse power loadout wise than the other Infiltrators, that there's no point in playing it unless yoiu want to play a human infiltrator. The human engineer on the other hand has balanced skill set that is just as good as any of the other engineers.
#98
Posté 14 juin 2012 - 07:31
molecularman wrote...
The problem is not the engineer, it's the infiltrator.
If you compared some other class to infys like that you'd probably say they're useless, too.
too true. Let's catch the rest of the classes up to the infiltrator.
#99
Posté 14 juin 2012 - 07:34
DNC Protoman wrote...
Ashen Earth wrote...
You sure do post a lot of threads about game balance for someone who doesn't understand that not every class is supposed to have the same role in a team, OP.
he wasn't asking for them to play the same role, only for them to excel more at their specific role than thier infiltrator counterparts. Read.
They do excel at their specific roles as opposed to Infiltrators. The fact that most of the Engineers have a specific power for dealing with each kind of enemy defense in the game pretty much proves that.
Infiltrators only have one tech power, to deal with one enemy defense.
#100
Posté 14 juin 2012 - 07:36
WaffleCrab wrote...
I think the OP here is a case of unexperienced player. I say the same thing i have said a countless times. there are no good or bad classes. only good or bad players.
The Batarian Sentinel is bad, and he should feel bad.





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