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Teddie Sage

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Just read that on wikipedia. Probably false. But whaaaaaaaat? *heartbroken*

I hope those are just rumours. I really wanted that Dragon Age II expansion, it would have allowed me to wait for Dragon Age III meanwhile. All I can do is purchase the comics, the movie and the novel for now. I'm starting to miss Ferelden and its people... And my companions from both games. Just knowing we'll have to wait two years or something to know the rest of the story for all those characters just makes me wonder how I'll manage to survive without them... (>-<)

Might as well do different playthroughs on Origins and 2...

Modifié par Teddie Sage, 15 juin 2012 - 01:02 .


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If so, it's going to be a long 2013. If we're all here by then, that is… :?

Modifié par thats1evildude, 15 juin 2012 - 01:21 .


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solution is simple; stop buying products related to bioware. save yourself from further disappointments. Bethesda is releasing an expansion for skyrim near end of June; The Last of Us comes out Jan 2013; resident evil 6 comes out october. There will be other better things. In general...bioware...games are not worth it these days

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I read on wiki they had to delay Dragon Age 3 because many of the team members moved to SWTOR for the next build they're planning for their MMO and it will require a lot of their time...

solution is simple; stop buying products related to bioware. save
yourself from further disappointments. Bethesda is releasing an
expansion for skyrim near end of June; The Last of Us comes out Jan
2013; resident evil 6 comes out october. There will be other better
things. In general...bioware...games are not worth it these days


Skyrim and storytelling don't get along. The Last of Us looks interesting but it isn't an RPG. Resident Evil 6 neither. The only reasy I play Skyrim is because of the open world and freedom it has but its gameplay is outdated.

Modifié par Teddie Sage, 15 juin 2012 - 01:13 .


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The longer they spend on the game, the better.   It means less people will complain.:wizard:

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I'm not complaining either way. The game will be ready when it's ready. But would the OP mind providing a link? I'd like to read the information for myself.

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Oh, you'd be surprised Melca. People said the same thing about Final Fantasies or Mass Effects. See what happened. Dragon Age will do the same thing again and again. Sequels are always meant to polarize people anyways.

For Berelind: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Age_III

Modifié par Teddie Sage, 15 juin 2012 - 01:20 .


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Melca36 wrote...
The longer they spend on the game, the better.   It means less people will complain.:wizard:


That's perfectly logical. After all, Duke Nukem Forever spent over a decade in development and we all know how well that game was received. 

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I remember when many people on this board were saying they didn't want the next DA before many years, ( like not before three years )

" Please take your time, don't mess up the next DA, don't rush the next game " etc.

So, if it happens, I think most people should be happy ?

Modifié par Sylvianus, 15 juin 2012 - 01:21 .


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Hopefully they will take plenty of time with DA3 so to reduce the sheer amount of recycled environments, "rough" background NPCs, and perfect the plot.

I would also recommend that they test it for an extra month to make sure there are very few bugs.

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My big fear, since they canceled the DA2 DLC and expansion, is that they will simply cancel the entire franchise...

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I don't think they will cancel everything since the whole franchise is a good source of revenue for BioWare. My biggest fear already has been realized: no Dragon Age 2 expansion and no more Hawke (at least in the playable form). I'll miss my Hawke. >_<''

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Bioware hasn't said anything about DA3's release date. The game isn't even confirmed in development. How can wiki have that on there as fact? Somebody needs to delete that information. Unless they say it's a rumor. In that case, take it with a grain of salt.

I personally think we'll see DA3 at the end of 2013. DA2 came out march 2011. 2 and half years development on a slightly modified engine seems very feasible to me. I'd think EA/Bioware wants to get one more out before the new consoles. And even with new consoles, they're going to have to establish a user base before they can consistently start making games on the console.

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motomotogirl wrote...

My big fear, since they canceled the DA2 DLC and expansion, is that they will simply cancel the entire franchise...


DA:O was Bioware's best selling game before ME3 came out. DA2 sold well and had a short dev cycle. Now I don't know what the budget was between both titles but it's entirely possible DA2 actually netted Bioware more profit because it was on a shorter dev cycle. DA:O was in development for quite some time.

2 year dev cycle, smaller budget and 2 million sold>>>>>>>>>>>>>>5 year dev cycle and 5 million sold from a business perspective.

The way they've been talking about DA lately...I seriously doubt they have any intentions to cancel this franchise anytime soon.

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motomotogirl wrote...

My big fear, since they canceled the DA2 DLC and expansion, is that they will simply cancel the entire franchise...


The comics I heard have been doing superb. They just released a film. If they were going to cancel it, they would cancel everything else too.

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thats1evildude wrote...

Melca36 wrote...
The longer they spend on the game, the better.   It means less people will complain.:wizard:


That's perfectly logical. After all, Duke Nukem Forever spent over a decade in development and we all know how well that game was received. 



Um...

They won't take that long and that Duke Nukem game sold far less than DA2. It was a HUGE mistake to release Duke Nukem.  I saw it for $10 2 months after it came out.

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Well, we've still got ME3 dlc to come for the rest of this year, perhaps leading into 2013?

... Of course, some people probably won't want to play it, what with the current endings and everything, but it's something at least lol.

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Teddie Sage wrote...

I read on wiki they had to delay Dragon Age 3 because many of the team members moved to SWTOR for the next build they're planning for their MMO and it will require a lot of their time...


That rumor comes from a financial analyst, Michael Pachter. You can read the whole story about it here.


Only BioWare knows if they actually diverted people from Dragon Age to TOR, but according to EA's last fiscal quarter conference call in early May, EA's CEO John Riccitiello did mention that one major game they previously were planning on releasing in their fiscal 2013 was being pushed back into fiscal 2014.

But its important to note thats EA's fiscal calendar. EA's Fiscal year starts on April 1st and goes to March 31st the following year. So EA's Fiscal 2012 ended already March 31, 2012. They're already in their Fiscal 2013, up until March 31, 2013.

So what that rumor is really saying and what Pachter was saying was that he thought Dragon Age 3 was going to come out in the fourth quarter of fiscal 2013 (January 1- March 31, 2013) and now its likely slipped into EA's fiscal 2014 (April 1, 2013- March 31, 2014).

Unless they're majorly delaying it, its possible DA3 comes out later next year, probably in the fall when new consoles come out.

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They still haven't announced the PS4 and the Xbox720 or whatever they are. The only console we'll have by then will be the Wii U and the Vita. But I guess we'll have some announcement before the end of 2013 for new consoles.

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Teddie Sage wrote...

They still haven't announced the PS4 and the Xbox720 or whatever they are. The only console we'll have by then will be the Wii U and the Vita. But I guess we'll have some announcement before the end of 2013 for new consoles.


I don't think the new consoles being announce has any impact on DA3's development. It's easy to see DA3 being much cheaper for EA/Bioware to develop on PS3/360 and possibly Wii U. Much bigger install base and cheaper engine. If they dropped it on the new consoles, they'd have a very limited market and have to build a new engine. Which I'm sure Bioware will set aside some programmers to build their "next-gen" engine. But it shouldn't hurt DA3's development unless they just plan to do it entirely on new consoles.

I'm hoping Bioware ditches the Unreal engine and makes their own. Something amazing. It's time for Bioware to invest in an awesome engine for their games. And I don't mean the engine they used in DA:O/DA2.

Modifié par deuce985, 15 juin 2012 - 03:46 .


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If that information is correct, it'll be the best news we could possibly receive. Image IPB

Painful waiting for it, definitely. But as long as the team chooses a solid direction, they'll need all the time they can get to pull together a top-quality game.

I thought DAII was a great example of *We've learned a lot of things, we'd like to try out a few new concepts. But uh... we don't actually have time to flesh them out completely.*

Modifié par brushyourteeth, 15 juin 2012 - 03:50 .


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I would think Bioware would pull a lot of their ME team over to help on this project too because I can't see them releasing anything anytime soon. I think the ME team is done for this gen and they'll leave the core part of that team together for their next project and in concept stages. Leave a small team together for DLC. You'd have to think Bioware is going to give DA3 a little more help like ME2/ME3 had. I believe they had around 2-3 teams working on both games?

It makes you wonder if DA2 was understaffed when Bioware had major projects like ME3 and SWTOR on their plate at that time.

Modifié par deuce985, 15 juin 2012 - 03:55 .


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It will be awesome if they do get some extra pairs of hands to help out, it would certainly get a lot more done in less time meaning that they could add more to the game and hopefully still have time left over to polish and tidy things up.

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thats1evildude wrote...

Melca36 wrote...
The longer they spend on the game, the better.   It means less people will complain.:wizard:


That's perfectly logical. After all, Duke Nukem Forever spent over a decade in development and we all know how well that game was received. 

Then let's hope Bioware finds a middle ground between "rushed to the shelves" and development hell

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deuce985 wrote...

I would think Bioware would pull a lot of their ME team over to help on this project too because I can't see them releasing anything anytime soon. I think the ME team is done for this gen and they'll leave the core part of that team together for their next project and in concept stages. Leave a small team together for DLC. You'd have to think Bioware is going to give DA3 a little more help like ME2/ME3 had. I believe they had around 2-3 teams working on both games?

It makes you wonder if DA2 was understaffed when Bioware had major projects like ME3 and SWTOR on their plate at that time.


You know, that's what I'm thinking. Just a thought of course, no evidence Image IPB.

As ME has been wrapped up as a trilogy the people working on it need to have other things on their hands. Guessing that there will be DLC but that does not aqcuire the whole team.......

And the fact that DA2 and ME3 were released shortly after one another could imply that the first might have been a bit understaffed and the release date was set.....SWOTR is, as I understand it, still a big thing for BW that needs attending to at the moment also.

And as you mentioned before there still is the old engine that needs attention or a complete new one.
Engines need a lot of time to devellop as I understand it. And timing is essentual when releasing a game.
Even when it's ready, time of year influences the release as does the fact that the game might be competing with other games in the same genre.......

All of those elements influence the release of DA3.

For me it should not be released before it is good and polished and mostly bug free.