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[Taboo]

themaltaproject wrote...

Makrys wrote...

Merizan said it won't have gameplay? Really? Huh.

I guess the last one of these just never happened then.

Its ridiculous to think the EC will just be cinematics. It does not take 3 or more months to craft some cinematic scenes. Entire DLCs for ME2 were made in just 2 months, and the team was split up then. The entire team is working on the EC now. So, all these assumptions are baseless.

As I said, it does not take this long to create some cutscenes. There will be some form of gameplay. I gaurantee it. Its pretty obvious at this point, actually.

FALSE as a CGI guy at a tech college i say FALSE. 20 minutes of cinematic cutscenes could take somewhere between 2-5 months based on amount of people working and talent of the people.

They are also doing new scenes. The announcement said that to.

ALSO, this is not the same as someone as Pixar. But you know more than I do, so I'll go with what you say.

[ref]

Someone above posted this, please people who think there will absolutely be no gameplay, look at it. Hardly confirmed, granted, but it still supports the possibility.

Modifié par Refara, 15 juin 2012 - 04:34 .

[themaltaproject]

Taboo-XX wrote...

themaltaproject wrote...

Makrys wrote...

Merizan said it won't have gameplay? Really? Huh.

I guess the last one of these just never happened then.

Its ridiculous to think the EC will just be cinematics. It does not take 3 or more months to craft some cinematic scenes. Entire DLCs for ME2 were made in just 2 months, and the team was split up then. The entire team is working on the EC now. So, all these assumptions are baseless.

As I said, it does not take this long to create some cutscenes. There will be some form of gameplay. I gaurantee it. Its pretty obvious at this point, actually.

FALSE as a CGI guy at a tech college i say FALSE. 20 minutes of cinematic cutscenes could take somewhere between 2-5 months based on amount of people working and talent of the people.

They are also doing new scenes. The announcement said that to.

ALSO, this is not the same as someone as Pixar. But you know more than I do, so I'll go with what you say.

Thinking back to when the crucible was docking with the citadel and when the citadels arms were opening, they are using Cinematic cutscenes.

You know the really pretty cutscenes from diablo 3? Thats all cinimatic too. All of it takes ungodly amounts of work to do, and that's why the cutscenes are so short. They look really pretty, but are short because they take forever.

[devSin]

themaltaproject wrote...

FALSE as a CGI guy at a tech college i say FALSE. 20 minutes of cinematic cutscenes could take somewhere between 2-5 months based on amount of people working and talent of the people.

The pre-captured sequences are created using game assets. These are more on the order of cutscenes simply saved to video, not Blizzard cinematics. (It's actually kind of an insult to Blizzard cinematics to even compare them.)

Modifié par devSin, 15 juin 2012 - 04:41 .

[themaltaproject]

devSin wrote...

themaltaproject wrote...

FALSE as a CGI guy at a tech college i say FALSE. 20 minutes of cinematic cutscenes could take somewhere between 2-5 months based on amount of people working and talent of the people.

The pre-captured sequences are created using game assets. These are more on the order of cutscenes simply saved to video, not Blizzard cinematics. (It's actually kind of an insult to Blizzard cinematics to even compare them.)

Eh I wasn't comparing them lol

[Taboo]

We have...

SPECULATIONS!

[Allen Spellwaver]

Who said there will be no gameplay?Did merizan say?Please post a screenshot or link here.Derek's thread just told us what will be contained in EC.But he didn't deny that there will be no gameplay content.
Besides,EC took about 3 months,longer than LotSB.It's unrational to just think there will be no extra gameplay.

[Makrys]

themaltaproject wrote...

Makrys wrote...

Merizan said it won't have gameplay? Really? Huh.

I guess the last one of these just never happened then.

Its ridiculous to think the EC will just be cinematics. It does not take 3 or more months to craft some cinematic scenes. Entire DLCs for ME2 were made in just 2 months, and the team was split up then. The entire team is working on the EC now. So, all these assumptions are baseless.

As I said, it does not take this long to create some cutscenes. There will be some form of gameplay. I gaurantee it. Its pretty obvious at this point, actually.

FALSE as a CGI guy at a tech college i say FALSE. 20 minutes of cinematic cutscenes could take somewhere between 2-5 months based on amount of people working and talent of the people.

Sorry, but the ENTIRE team is dedicated to the EC. It does not take 3 months for an entire development team to create a few minutes of cinematics. Gamble himself said that the EC won't just contain cinematics. Merizan has hinted towards gameplay. Entire DLCs for ME2 were made in the time it is taking them to make the EC. I highly doubt they are just doing cutscenes. It would be a massive waist of time and money. CGI is extremely expensive to produce. Also, they have many of the VA's back as well as more I'm sure we don't know about. Is it just going to be a movie where everyone narrates? No. There will be conversations, and I'm sure there will be gameplay. It makes no logical sense to spend this much time on a few cinematics. None of it flows. 

Also, I know 2 CGI Animators who work for an indie gaming company. They've worked and talked with some of the biggest names in the CGI industry and they're huge ME fans. I've expressed frustration and confusion about the EC to them, and they guaranteed me that the EC will be far more than just cinematics. They said based on the size of Bioware's cinematics department, and the amount of time its taking them, they could have already made at least an hour long cinematic movie. I was shocked when I heard this, but they said there is simply no way the EC will just be cinematics. Its taking them far too long, and would be pointless to have that much cinematic footage.

They are brilliant guys, so I trust their input. 

Modifié par Makrys, 15 juin 2012 - 05:10 .

[themaltaproject]

Honestly I wish bioware would just say something. Anything. A proper dev blog of some kind.

[Makrys]

Allen Spellwaver wrote...

Who said there will be no gameplay?Did merizan say?Please post a screenshot or link here.Derek's thread just told us what will be contained in EC.But he didn't deny that there will be no gameplay content.
Besides,EC took about 3 months,longer than LotSB.It's unrational to just think there will be no extra gameplay.

http://social.biowar...32/171#12183404

Modifié par Makrys, 15 juin 2012 - 05:09 .

[Taboo]

^ Who am I to argue with that.

I can't surpass that. Well done.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 15 juin 2012 - 05:10 .

[DPSSOC]

BlahDog wrote...

Either it took Bioware about 2 months to just iron out what they were going to do with the endings or there's something else going on here. I highly doubt it would take this long to make cutscenes and still be in pre-detail announcement mode and while I'm sure it would take a while to piece an ending like this together, I don't think it would take a few month to do.

Yeah probably.  Keep in mind their immediate response to the outcry over the endings, they didn't get it.  So yes I can easily believe they spent 2 months figuring out what went wrong and how they can fix it.  As for announcements they've seen how we respond to those, if they're smart they aren't gonna say squat.

BlahDog wrote...
Simply put, there's probably something else going on here. Not necessarily gameplay but something that likely extends beyond the stated parameters.

I doubt it, the stated parameters set a pretty high bar as is, tweak the ending to please fans without actually changing it.  Figuring out the how is probably what's eating up most of the time.

[themaltaproject]

Makrys wrote...

themaltaproject wrote...

Makrys wrote...

Merizan said it won't have gameplay? Really? Huh.

I guess the last one of these just never happened then.

Its ridiculous to think the EC will just be cinematics. It does not take 3 or more months to craft some cinematic scenes. Entire DLCs for ME2 were made in just 2 months, and the team was split up then. The entire team is working on the EC now. So, all these assumptions are baseless.

As I said, it does not take this long to create some cutscenes. There will be some form of gameplay. I gaurantee it. Its pretty obvious at this point, actually.

FALSE as a CGI guy at a tech college i say FALSE. 20 minutes of cinematic cutscenes could take somewhere between 2-5 months based on amount of people working and talent of the people.

Sorry, but the ENTIRE team is dedicated to the EC. It does not take 3 months for an entire development team to create a few minutes of cinematics. Gamble himself said that the EC won't just contain cinematics. Merizan has hinted towards gameplay. Entire DLCs were made in the time it is taking them to make the EC. I highly doubt they are just doing cutscenes. It would be a massive waist of time and money. CGI is extremely expensive to produce. Also, they have many of the VA's back as well as more I'm sure we don't know about. Is it just going to be a movie where everyone narrates? No. There will be conversations, and I'm sure there will be gameplay. It makes no logical sense to spend this much time on a few cinematics. None of it flows. 

Also, I know 2 CGI Animators who work for an indie gaming company. They've worked and talked with some of the biggest names in the CGI industry and they're huge ME fans. I've expressed frustration and confusion about the EC to them, and they guaranteed me that the EC will be far more than just cinematics. They said based on the size of Bioware's cinematics department, and the amount of time its taking them, they could have already made at least an hour long cinematic movie. I was shocked when I heard this, but they said there is simply no way the EC will just be cinematics. Its taking them far too long, and would be pointless to have that much cinematic footage.

They are brilliant guys, so I trust their input. 

I mean you can believe what you want, I am just saying cinematic cutscenes take a lot of time.

[Makrys]

Taboo-XX wrote...

^ Who am I to argue with that.

I can't surpass that. Well done.

What?

[Makrys]

themaltaproject wrote...

Makrys wrote...

themaltaproject wrote...

Makrys wrote...

Merizan said it won't have gameplay? Really? Huh.

I guess the last one of these just never happened then.

Its ridiculous to think the EC will just be cinematics. It does not take 3 or more months to craft some cinematic scenes. Entire DLCs for ME2 were made in just 2 months, and the team was split up then. The entire team is working on the EC now. So, all these assumptions are baseless.

As I said, it does not take this long to create some cutscenes. There will be some form of gameplay. I gaurantee it. Its pretty obvious at this point, actually.

FALSE as a CGI guy at a tech college i say FALSE. 20 minutes of cinematic cutscenes could take somewhere between 2-5 months based on amount of people working and talent of the people.

Sorry, but the ENTIRE team is dedicated to the EC. It does not take 3 months for an entire development team to create a few minutes of cinematics. Gamble himself said that the EC won't just contain cinematics. Merizan has hinted towards gameplay. Entire DLCs were made in the time it is taking them to make the EC. I highly doubt they are just doing cutscenes. It would be a massive waist of time and money. CGI is extremely expensive to produce. Also, they have many of the VA's back as well as more I'm sure we don't know about. Is it just going to be a movie where everyone narrates? No. There will be conversations, and I'm sure there will be gameplay. It makes no logical sense to spend this much time on a few cinematics. None of it flows. 

Also, I know 2 CGI Animators who work for an indie gaming company. They've worked and talked with some of the biggest names in the CGI industry and they're huge ME fans. I've expressed frustration and confusion about the EC to them, and they guaranteed me that the EC will be far more than just cinematics. They said based on the size of Bioware's cinematics department, and the amount of time its taking them, they could have already made at least an hour long cinematic movie. I was shocked when I heard this, but they said there is simply no way the EC will just be cinematics. Its taking them far too long, and would be pointless to have that much cinematic footage.

They are brilliant guys, so I trust their input. 

I mean you can believe what you want, I am just saying cinematic cutscenes take a lot of time.

I'm fully aware of this. But it doesn't take this much time to make 10 minutes or so of footage with a dev team the size of Bioware's. 

Modifié par Makrys, 15 juin 2012 - 05:15 .

[Taboo]

Makrys wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

^ Who am I to argue with that.

I can't surpass that. Well done.

What?

wat.

I was talking about that big post you had.

I'm a movie guy. My experience with cinematics ends with the guy I know who does color for Pixar. You know more than I do.

[Makrys]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Makrys wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

^ Who am I to argue with that.

I can't surpass that. Well done.

What?

wat.

I was talking about that big post you had.

I'm a movie guy. My experience with cinematics ends with the guy I know who does color for Pixar. You know more than I do.

You are a shot in the dark sometimes, Tabs. I suspected sarcasm. So I was just making sure.

[Taboo]

It's better to remain a shot in the dark.

More "speculations".

[Makrys]

Every time you say that word a thorn probes my back.

Modifié par Makrys, 15 juin 2012 - 05:17 .

[Joroelcapo]

I think that maybe they change their mind about it and they add more dialog options. But if they make the red ending wih shepard alive, his reunion with his crew and also show us the death of the geths and edi will be a great. That was the ending that i like to see. I dont know how they are going to solve the relays problem thoug

[Taboo]

Makrys wrote...

Every time you say that word a thorn probes my back.

Don't worry. I've been incredibly depressed for the past two days, so it's okay.

[Makrys]

Is this ending related, or life related? I can send you tons of Miranda pictures if its makes things better. You know, ones where Shep and her are actually together. *cough*

Modifié par Makrys, 15 juin 2012 - 05:21 .

[MrDavid]

Unless the cutscenes are being written by Hideo Kojima, I think there's gonna be some gameplay but I'm not getting my hopes up.

[Taboo]

Makrys wrote...

Is this ending related, or life related? I can send you tons of Miranda pictures if its makes things better. You know, ones where Shep and her are actually together. *cough*

Ending related. Stressful. I take medication for depression but I'm a bit stressed out right now. 

But mostly just sad that it had to be this way. I wanted to be with Miranda. That's all I wanted. Bioware denied it. OCD has made it a pretty difficult few months.

Do you think the pictures would help?

[Makrys]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Makrys wrote...

Is this ending related, or life related? I can send you tons of Miranda pictures if its makes things better. You know, ones where Shep and her are actually together. *cough*

Ending related. Stressful. I take medication for depression but I'm a bit stressed out right now. 

But mostly just sad that it had to be this way. I wanted to be with Miranda. That's all I wanted. Bioware denied it. OCD has made it a pretty difficult few months.

Do you think the pictures would help?

Either you're trolling, or dude... get some help. Its a video game. Its ok. 

And that depends on you. I'm good at finding pictures for a particular emotional response. If you're serious, yes I can send you some that should lift your spirits.

Though, still...