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[garrusfan1]

OP I agree with you 100 percent because it took less then two years to make the game and it's taking three months so far and the release date hasn't even been given and they haven't said no gameplay they just haven't confirmed it

[fr33stylez]

jsadalia wrote...

 Just in case no one has seen what BioWare have actually said about the EC so far, with my bolding:

Here is a mini FAQ to help you understand what the Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut is and isn’t:
What can fans expect from the Extended Cut DLC?

For fans who want more closure in Mass Effect 3, the DLC will offer extended scenes that provide additional context and deeper insight to the conclusion of Commander Shepard’s journey.

Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?

No. BioWare strongly believes in the team’s artistic vision for the end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.

What is BioWare adding to the ending with the Extended Cut DLC?

BioWare will expanding on the ending to Mass Effect 3 by creating additional cinematics and epilogue scenes to the existing ending sequences. The goal of these new scenes is to provide additional clarity and closure to Mass Effect 3.

When will the Extended Cut DLC be available?

Currently the Extended Cut DLC is planned for this summer, no specific date has been announced at this point.

Why are you releasing the Extended Cut DLC?

Though we remain committed and are proud of the artistic choices we made in the main game, we are aware that there are some fans who would like more closure to Mass Effect 3. The goal of the DLC is not to provide a new ending to the game, rather to offer fans additional context and answers to the end of Commander Shepard’s story.

Will there be more Mass Effect 3 DLC?

More content is being planned and we will release information at a later date.

So there you have it. Are we proud of the game we made and the team that made it? Hell yes. Are we going to change the ending of the game? No. Do we appreciate the passion and listen to the feedback delivered to us by our fans? Very much so and we are responding.
Summer is coming…

"Extended scenes that provide additional context and deeper insight to the conclusion" could certainly include some tweaking to the existing gameplay at the game's conclusion (and therefore, new gameplay), likely just more video and conversation (which is what the ending is all about), but the correct additions to those conversations could go a long way to clearing things up.  This could equally just mean more video alone.
"Expanding on the ending by creating additional cinematics and epilogue scenes to the existing ending sequences": For gameplay, this doesn't seem to leave a lot of room.  I guess a surviving Shepard might get a bit like at the end of DAO where he gets to speak to his friends. But expanding on the ending is entirely different from changing the ending, so whatever happens we're not likely to get the chance to do much different, just get a better sense of the results of our actions.

Speculation, of course.

What's not speculation is that data direct from BioWare is not "misinformation"; along a few vague hints from voice actors, it is the only information we have, and to dismiss it does not make much sense.

Why are people  ignoring this post? This thread is over.

You're free to believe gameplay will be included, but Bioware specifically said the EC would be CINEMATICS and SCENES. If you believe Bioware is lying to the public about their plans for the EC, go ahead. But I'll take what Bioware said about the EC they're as opposed to the baseless speculations in this thread.

Modifié par fr33stylez, 15 juin 2012 - 03:33 .

[covertdrizzt]

I don't know if the E.C. will have gameplay or not. I think that depends on you definition of gameplay. I could definitely see them putting in a scene like the one at the end of DAO. Also Bioware has never said that there won't be gamplay.

[garrusfan1]

[quote]covertdrizzt wrote...

I don't know if the E.C. will have gameplay or not. I think that depends on you definition of gameplay. I could definitely see them putting in a scene like the one at the end of DAO. Also Bioware has never said that there won't be gamplay.[/quote


Everyone loves to be negative agree with you

[SimonTheFrog]

dorktainian wrote...

its a shame ME3 didn't enter QA isnt it?

As a member of a game devs QA i have to add that QA doesn't have the final saying about that sort of thing. They most probably pointed out inconsistencies or gave (negative) quality feedback. But the decision whether or not the product gets shipped is not theirs to make.

[RAF1940]

Hasn't it been explicitly stated that it's only cinematics?

[Taboo]

RAF1940 wrote...

Hasn't it been explicitly stated that it's only cinematics?

No. Mr. Gamble said it would more than "a few cinematics."

SPECULATIONS!

[NM_Che56]

Michael Gamble at Pax East refused to comment eitherway...so the door wasn't shut in April.

[sparkyo42]

Master Che wrote...

Michael Gamble at Pax East refused to comment eitherway...so the door wasn't shut in April.

They'd only announced the EC what 2 days before the Pax East. At that time they were still trying to pick the team up from the Car Crash of the Game they thought would be the crown jewel of the trilogy. At this time they were in meetings to discuss what to do.

Of course he was going to keep all options open then. doesn't mean anything one way or the other.

[Comguard2]

I think they just need that huge amount of time for collecting ideas on how to fix it.

I mean, look at the countless annoyances of the ending we've found on these boards, and not even the united might of the BSN could find answers on how to solve these problems.

I imagine the meetings discussing how to save everything take up the most time. Hope they realized the ending can't be explained and try something else.

[NM_Che56]

sparkyo42 wrote...

Master Che wrote...

Michael Gamble at Pax East refused to comment eitherway...so the door wasn't shut in April.

They'd only announced the EC what 2 days before the Pax East. At that time they were still trying to pick the team up from the Car Crash of the Game they thought would be the crown jewel of the trilogy. At this time they were in meetings to discuss what to do.

Of course he was going to keep all options open then. doesn't mean anything one way or the other.

You're missing my point.  We're saying the same thing.

People are asserting that there won't be any.  I don't know where this sense of certitude originates.

[FlamingBoy]

if it had gameplay it would mean bioware is trying, bioware doesn't seem to care about that

[noobcannon]

sparkyo42 wrote...

Something that people aren't taking into account comparing LOTSB to the EC is the fact that LOTSB was planned, I think I remember that the car scenes were something they'd been planning from the start of the game not just the DLC. EC came at them cold and after the team was finished.

The team would have had at least 2 weeks off after the release, even with the S***storm they're human and would need that time, Then they have to come in get a rough idea of what they want to do and how to do it then arrange everything and plan the development. LOTSB and EC aren't the same in terms of planning by a long shot.

I don't know what they plan, if it's just cutscenes they may make the assets more visible, make the God Child better, and whatever the after action stuff they might be thinking about if anything. If it's game play at best it will be to try and make Earth a better mission. But I don't see them getting to the point of LOTSB, that would be a massive admission of the complaints.

[redknight38]

Master Che wrote...

People are asserting that there won't be any.  I don't know where this sense of certitude originates.

Yeah pretty much. So Bioware lies all the time, except when they talk about the EC when they are telling the absolute truth? Nothing I've seen from their public interaction suggests anything concrete. Literally nothing is certain and we've not been told anything beyond pablum. People have preconceived notions and use whatever little there is to support these... welcome to the Internet!

[MWMike2011]

redknight38 wrote...

Master Che wrote...

People are asserting that there won't be any.  I don't know where this sense of certitude originates.

Yeah pretty much. So Bioware lies all the time, except when they talk about the EC when they are telling the absolute truth? Nothing I've seen from their public interaction suggests anything concrete. Literally nothing is certain and we've not been told anything beyond pablum. People have preconceived notions and use whatever little there is to support these... welcome to the Internet!

Honestly, everything I've read only seems to suggest the opposite of what "everyone" is saying, that there WILL be gameplay in EC. I mean, everytime they are asked, they kinda sidestep the question instead of coming right out and say it. They did that a few times, when the DLC seemed so ridiculous that there was no way they were true, but everyone went so rabid about it that BioWare came out and said they weren't true (Truth, Terminator, I'm looking at you). This isn't the case for EC. Personally, I'm thinking that it is taking so long because they are getting the gameplay right. And I've heard from someone claiming to be part of BioWare until recently (not sure on that, but he has been telling the truth before on some of the other DLC) say that Indoctrination Theory might be a little truer that even he originally thought. That might be what is taking so long. I believe EC has either entered QA, or it is getting VERY close to QA.

[sparkyo42]

nobcannon. That's damage control and spinning the chances for future DLC. It's what they had to say, by the 5th the returns had to be making a point and the retailers would have been screaming. Again none of the team would say anything else but that.

It comes down to the simply question, during development did somebody float the idea to produce a product that here was €90 and that the ending would be later (6-9 months later whatever). At that point did nobody in the room or the higher ups look at that and think of the vast negative consequences if the fanbase didn't react the way they planned.

Or did they think they'd produced a triple A quality game slapped each other on the back and then looked on in horror as the base exploded, and then reacched for something anything to put out the flames.

Put another way,
If it was a mistake it's understandable and perhaps forgivable.
If it was planned Bioware has caashed in a lot of their brand for nothing.

[V-rcingetorix]

The Powers That Be say they will "expand on existing endings."

(http://blog.bioware....3-extended-cut/)

Whether this means more gameplay (possible), more cutscenes (probable) or some text (low probability by my judgement).

So long as Shep lives through the "Ultimate Paragon ending" I'm happy.

[nategator]

You guys don't see the world like EA sees it.

They'll have gameplay, but it will be in the OTHER DLC that they'll be selling at the same time as when the EC DLC is out. It's pretty obvious from the twitter exchange above with Gamble that they are working on more than one thing.

So, EA gives us our "extended ending" of cutscenes for free, but uses the renewed interest as an opportunity to sell us the planned pay-DLC. If EA is really evil, they'll directly tie in the EC ending to the DLC to get gullible fans to buy an extended-extended ending. 

Sure, they could have finished the EC ending with just cutscenes by now if they wanted, but EA would never have let that marketing opportunity slip through their fingers.  So, they split the teams, recorded some voice for the EC & pay DLCs at the same time, and worked on these multiple projects during the delay.

"...one more story"

Modifié par nategator, 17 juin 2012 - 08:19 .

[shodiswe]

Insufficient data.

Most likely not.

[garrusfan1]

How far we have come