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[MWaHa]

The "If you don't like it don't use it" argument makes little sense/ Because it's a co-op game, each person's decisions affect others' experiences. When someone uses the Krysae, the game is more fun for that other player, but less fun for his three teammates.

I agree with OP; the game would be better off if it had never been introduced.

[ArtGerhardt]

It's probably less common in PC because it's easier to aim on PC, so a lot of people end up scoring more with black widows and valients.

Modifié par ArtGerhardt, 15 juin 2012 - 07:41 .

[CmnDwnWrkn]

Ashen Earth wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

Arkley wrote...

This forum would be better without ****** threads like this.

I guess neither of us is getting what we want.

Get lost noob.  If you need a noob cannon to play the game, that's pathetic.

Your manifest points towards you being the noob CmnDwnWrkn.

I mean, Arkley even has medigel in the triple digits compared to your 5. I wonder who dies more often.

Yeah okay, maybe I use medigel more frequently than others.  That doesn't mean I die more often.  I insta-gel a lot of the time, because I don't like to burden my squadmates with reviving me.  I rarely bleed out, even if I'm the last one left and my chances are slim, I'll go through every gel if I have to, just to try and win.  Maybe that's not the smart thing to do, but it's what I do.

You, on the other hand, save medigel, because you always expect your squadmates to revive you.  And if they don't reach you, you bleed out rather than use your precious medigels.  Medigel hoarding is lame.  You overly burden your teammates to win in spite of your poor play.

So save your "analysis", noob.  I don't care what level you play, I can tell by what you write that you're a bad player who doesn't understand the concept of team play.  Noob.

[MWaHa]

CaptainTeabag wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

The game was fine without it, and it was better without it.  The way to end the Inflitrator/Krysae nerf insanity is to remove the weapon that is causing the problem in the first place - the Kruhshay sniper cannon rifle long-range proximity mine missle.

Sniper rifle was already the most powerful weapon class without it.  It's simply overkill to have this in the game.  It's a totally unnecessary weapon.  If it was taken out, the unskilled players who rely on it would cry for a couple of days, and then they'd get over it.  And the nerf talk would disappear.  And the game would be brought closer back into balance.

It would be good for everyone and for the long-term playability of this game.

In short: Don't nerf it; DELETE it.

^^^^^

Man... masochist doesn't like to win. Stop playing then, problem solved. Then the rest of us can carry on enjoying the game and its cool new weapons. This is Co-op not pvp. They gave us stronger guns coz they kept on buffing the AI.

Get a clue man - by nerfing ur allie u nerf ur own chances of getting max credits. Sad act, i swear

Why don't they just give you a gun that when you pull the trigger once instakills all 11 waves and completes all objectives for you?

[holdenagincourt]

^ I can't wait for the response to this one >_>

I would defend Ash but I think he's got it covered, lol

Edit: I mean the post one above 

Modifié par holdenagincourt, 15 juin 2012 - 07:44 .

[Ashen One]

Pitznik wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

Arkley wrote...

This forum would be better without ****** threads like this.

I guess neither of us is getting what we want.

Get lost noob.  If you need a noob cannon to play the game, that's pathetic.

Your manifest points towards you being the noob CmnDwnWrkn.

I mean, Arkley even has medigel in the triple digits compared to your 5. I wonder who dies more often.

Maybe OP doesn't die at all, so he doesn't buy JEPs, how about that? Unlikely, not impossible, especially since he's playing silver.

If he doesn't die at all, he would have more medigel stockpiled from recieveing it in the other packs, PSP or otherwise. I rarely die, so I have little reason to buy JEPs and it shows in my manifest.

But no, judging from his posts, his lack of understanding about the classes and what other players who have played with him say, he's a classic noob.

Modifié par Ashen Earth, 15 juin 2012 - 07:43 .

[CmnDwnWrkn]

CaptainTeabag wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

The game was fine without it, and it was better without it.  The way to end the Inflitrator/Krysae nerf insanity is to remove the weapon that is causing the problem in the first place - the Kruhshay sniper cannon rifle long-range proximity mine missle.

Sniper rifle was already the most powerful weapon class without it.  It's simply overkill to have this in the game.  It's a totally unnecessary weapon.  If it was taken out, the unskilled players who rely on it would cry for a couple of days, and then they'd get over it.  And the nerf talk would disappear.  And the game would be brought closer back into balance.

It would be good for everyone and for the long-term playability of this game.

In short: Don't nerf it; DELETE it.

^^^^^

Man... masochist doesn't like to win. Stop playing then, problem solved. Then the rest of us can carry on enjoying the game and its cool new weapons. This is Co-op not pvp. They gave us stronger guns coz they kept on buffing the AI.

Get a clue man - by nerfing ur allie u nerf ur own chances of getting max credits. Sad act, i swear

I have a hard time believing "Captain Teabag" is a team player.  You can't possibly be older than 11.

Modifié par CmnDwnWrkn, 15 juin 2012 - 07:44 .

[MWaHa]

Ashen Earth wrote...

Pitznik wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

Arkley wrote...

This forum would be better without ****** threads like this.

I guess neither of us is getting what we want.

Get lost noob.  If you need a noob cannon to play the game, that's pathetic.

Your manifest points towards you being the noob CmnDwnWrkn.

I mean, Arkley even has medigel in the triple digits compared to your 5. I wonder who dies more often.

Maybe OP doesn't die at all, so he doesn't buy JEPs, how about that? Unlikely, not impossible, especially since he's playing silver.

If he doesn't die at all, he would have more medigel stockpiled from recieveing it in the other packs, PSP or otherwise. I rarely die, so I have little reason to buy JEPs and it shows in my manifest.

But no, judging from his posts, his lack of understanding about the classes and what other players who have played with him say, he's a classic noob.

Ad hominin fallacy is fallacious...

Modifié par MWaHa, 15 juin 2012 - 07:45 .

[Pitznik]

Haloburner wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

Haloburner wrote...

Stop whining.

Play with friends.

Ask them to not use that gun.

Problem solved?

I'm not whining, crybaby.  Stop being so grumpy and sensitive.  I'm stating an opinion that the positives of the Krysae don't outweigh the negatives.  Do you feel differently?  Let's discuss.

So when people kill things with an overpowered gun, it's a negative?  I'd like to see what you have to say in terms of what the negatives and positives are to this gun. As of now, I rarely see any negatives, which could be a negative in itself. 

Tactical cloak was created with smaller bonus meant for every weapon, and big bonus for sniper rifle. What's a sniper rifle? Why, it is a scoped rifle, single target, requiring precise aim, single shot or semi out, effective at long range, usually with low clip. What is Krysae? Krysae is proximity grenade launcher. Is proximity grenade launcher a sniper rifle? No, it is pretty much the opposite - doesn't require precise aim, deals aoe damage. Yet it is labeled as sniper rifle, getting all the bonuses from TC, balanced for sniper rifles, unbalanced for proximity grenade launcher. That is a negative.

[NCRZombie]

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

The game was fine without it, and it was better without it.  The way to end the Inflitrator/Krysae nerf insanity is to remove the weapon that is causing the problem in the first place - the Kruhshay sniper cannon rifle long-range proximity mine missle.

Sniper rifle was already the most powerful weapon class without it.  It's simply overkill to have this in the game.  It's a totally unnecessary weapon.  If it was taken out, the unskilled players who rely on it would cry for a couple of days, and then they'd get over it.  And the nerf talk would disappear.  And the game would be brought closer back into balance.

It would be good for everyone and for the long-term playability of this game.

In short: Don't nerf it; DELETE it.

Do you cite this on personal experience, or what the forums tell you?

I apologize, but I can't feel you have a valid opinion on a weapon which you only have at level 1 that I expect you to have used minimally. This goes for both support or shunning of the weapon as far as I'm concerned. Even if you just watch it being used at level 10 gives you only a small amount of information on the rifle.

Use it at level 10 yourself; then pass judgement. It's only fair as the rifle does start to make a difference at the later levels.

[soldo9149]

You know i think this game would better without any powers, weapon, and melee from doing anything different then all the others, none being better or worse just the same. Just basic damage, no rapid fire, no grenade AR's like the falcon, no smgs, no scopes, no slow effect or damage deductions or BE's for biotic powers, no armors. Just damage you know that is all and all guns are 1 minutes reload times with single shots.

[UKStory135]

Until I saw the responses from Bioware on one of the Infilnerfer threads, I also wished that the Krysae had never existed. Now that it seems that the BW people are in agreement with the vast majority of players and will not nerf TC, I'm glad it is still in my arsenal.

[GodlessPaladin]

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

100RenegadePoints wrote...

I play on pc, gold, nobody uses this thing anyways, I guess because is it so boring... So just leave it as it is, players will get bored of it soon...

PC probably has the most mature players, so I can see people choosing to opt out of using it.  On the consoles though, it shows up in every game.

Krysaes EVERYWHERE.

[CmnDwnWrkn]

Ashen Earth wrote...

Pitznik wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

Arkley wrote...

This forum would be better without ****** threads like this.

I guess neither of us is getting what we want.

Get lost noob.  If you need a noob cannon to play the game, that's pathetic.

Your manifest points towards you being the noob CmnDwnWrkn.

I mean, Arkley even has medigel in the triple digits compared to your 5. I wonder who dies more often.

Maybe OP doesn't die at all, so he doesn't buy JEPs, how about that? Unlikely, not impossible, especially since he's playing silver.

If he doesn't die at all, he would have more medigel stockpiled from recieveing it in the other packs, PSP or otherwise. I rarely die, so I have little reason to buy JEPs and it shows in my manifest.

But no, judging from his posts, his lack of understanding about the classes and what other players who have played with him say, he's a classic noob.

You're wrong - you die quite often.  But you never save yourself - you always burden your teammates and their good nature by insisting they come revive you.  Typical selfish behavior from an arrogant player who vastly overestimates his level of skill.  Your type of play is even worse than noob.  It ruins team play.

[MWaHa]

soldo9149 wrote...

You know i think this game would better without any powers, weapon, and melee from doing anything different then all the others, none being better or worse just the same. Just basic damage, no rapid fire, no grenade AR's like the falcon, no smgs, no scopes, no slow effect or damage deductions or BE's for biotic powers, no armors. Just damage you know that is all and all guns are 1 minutes reload times with single shots.

Huzzah unhelpful sarcasm and strawman attacks....

[Creakazoid]

soldo9149 wrote...Just damage you know that is all and all guns are 1 minutes reload times with single shots.

Yay for muzzle-loaders!

[Ashen One]

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

Yeah okay, maybe I use medigel more frequently than others.  That doesn't mean I die more often.

Actually, it does, seeing as you cannot burn a medigel without dying first.

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...
You, on the other hand, save medigel, because you always expect your squadmates to revive you. 

Or maybe I just don't die all that often.

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...
And if they don't reach you, you bleed out rather than use your precious medigels.  Medigel hoarding is lame.  You overly burden your teammates to win in spite of your poor play.

Says the guy who has nearly 200 missiles stockpiled. Yet I'm the one hoarding consumables... rofl If a team mate can't reach me, I don't bleed out as opposed to using a medigel. It's just that I find myself in that situation so infrequently that I don't need to use all 5 medigel every game.

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...


So save your "analysis", noob.  I don't care what level you play, I can tell by what you write that you're a bad player who doesn't understand the concept of team play.  Noob.

People on this forum who have played with me know I'm good. But okay, if it helps you sleep at night I'm a "noob".

[Tankcommander]

I don't know anybody that uses it anymore....too easy to use, takes all the fun and challenge out. Apparently a lot of PC gold players feel the same way as it has nearly vanished online. Those that use it are so terrible at the game anyway that the whole game is spent facepalming about how someone is so bad.

That being said, it is not ridiculous on other classes.

[CmnDwnWrkn]

MWaHa wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Pitznik wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

Arkley wrote...

This forum would be better without ****** threads like this.

I guess neither of us is getting what we want.

Get lost noob.  If you need a noob cannon to play the game, that's pathetic.

Your manifest points towards you being the noob CmnDwnWrkn.

I mean, Arkley even has medigel in the triple digits compared to your 5. I wonder who dies more often.

Maybe OP doesn't die at all, so he doesn't buy JEPs, how about that? Unlikely, not impossible, especially since he's playing silver.

If he doesn't die at all, he would have more medigel stockpiled from recieveing it in the other packs, PSP or otherwise. I rarely die, so I have little reason to buy JEPs and it shows in my manifest.

But no, judging from his posts, his lack of understanding about the classes and what other players who have played with him say, he's a classic noob.

Ad hominin fallacy is fallacious...

You'll have to excuse Ashes Earth.  That's all he knows how to do.

[Pitznik]

Ashen Earth wrote...

Pitznik wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

Arkley wrote...

This forum would be better without ****** threads like this.

I guess neither of us is getting what we want.

Get lost noob.  If you need a noob cannon to play the game, that's pathetic.

Your manifest points towards you being the noob CmnDwnWrkn.

I mean, Arkley even has medigel in the triple digits compared to your 5. I wonder who dies more often.

Maybe OP doesn't die at all, so he doesn't buy JEPs, how about that? Unlikely, not impossible, especially since he's playing silver.

If he doesn't die at all, he would have more medigel stockpiled from recieveing it in the other packs, PSP or otherwise. I rarely die, so I have little reason to buy JEPs and it shows in my manifest.

But no, judging from his posts, his lack of understanding about the classes and what other players who have played with him say, he's a classic noob.

He wouldn't. If he dies rarely he can actually just use more or less the same amount of medi gels as he gets in PSPs. How many PSPs can you buy playing silver alone, how many of them will contain medigel? I have almost no medi-gel, yet I don't think I die often - 0 -1 per game as Kroguard, maybe 2 - 3 times per game as other classes. Sometimes more, if I have a bad day or try something I am not comfortable with (Oh, Phoenix Adept, how many medigels you owe me) Silver. I don't pop medigel unless it is needed or I am embarassed by my stupidity. So I pretty much use what I get in PSPs, but still am permanently on low number.

About other players talking - I have absolutely no idea, haven't seen anything.

[Ashen One]

MWaHa wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Pitznik wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

Arkley wrote...

This forum would be better without ****** threads like this.

I guess neither of us is getting what we want.

Get lost noob.  If you need a noob cannon to play the game, that's pathetic.

Your manifest points towards you being the noob CmnDwnWrkn.

I mean, Arkley even has medigel in the triple digits compared to your 5. I wonder who dies more often.

Maybe OP doesn't die at all, so he doesn't buy JEPs, how about that? Unlikely, not impossible, especially since he's playing silver.

If he doesn't die at all, he would have more medigel stockpiled from recieveing it in the other packs, PSP or otherwise. I rarely die, so I have little reason to buy JEPs and it shows in my manifest.

But no, judging from his posts, his lack of understanding about the classes and what other players who have played with him say, he's a classic noob.

Ad hominin fallacy is fallacious...

>Implying his lack of understanding of the classes, blatantly ignorant posts, and comments made by other players who have played with him are irrelevant to my argument that he is a noob

lol, people who throw around "ad hominem", but don't know what it really means.

[jordie3000]

In bronze and silver games I get a little annoyed by the Krysae (and to a lesser extent the Reegar), but on gold I'm often totally ok with it because it means mobs go down faster. Sure, I might miss out on a kill, but I also might have my butt saved by the splash damage.

[sigma_draconis]

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...
PC probably has the most mature players, so I can see people choosing to opt out of using it.  On the consoles though, it shows up in every game.

1. What does choosing a weapon or not have anything to do with maturity?

2. It's all boils down to personal experience isn't it? You seem to see it a lot so you believe everyone uses it. I on the other hand rarely seen one in most of my matches, Silver or Gold. Honestly, I see more Claymore's and GPS's than this and the Reegar combined.

[CmnDwnWrkn]

Ashes - you're trying to turn this into a thread about ME again, which is wildly inappropriate. Mature adults are trying to discuss Mass Effect 3. If you'd like to talk about me, I'll gladly answer any question you have via message.

Now back to the game...

[soldo9149]

MWaHa wrote...

soldo9149 wrote...

You know i think this game would better without any powers, weapon, and melee from doing anything different then all the others, none being better or worse just the same. Just basic damage, no rapid fire, no grenade AR's like the falcon, no smgs, no scopes, no slow effect or damage deductions or BE's for biotic powers, no armors. Just damage you know that is all and all guns are 1 minutes reload times with single shots.

Huzzah unhelpful sarcasm and strawman attacks....

Sorry but just leave the bloody thing, everyone keeps saying nerf this, nerf that. The sniper rifles are to OP, the infilatrator is to OP, biotics explosions are OP so lets nerf those into the ground, vanguards are OP, everything needs a nerf since you cant beat them and so forth. So damn tired of nerf treads.  So yes as you put it was unhelpful sarcasm and it is what i was aiming for since everyone for the most part just wants nerfs to happen so lets nerf everything to single round guns with huge reload times.