Ashen Earth wrote...
MWaHa wrote...
Ad hominin fallacy is fallacious...
>Implying his lack of understanding of the classes, blatantly ignorant posts, and comments made by other players who have played with him are irrelevant to my argument that he is a noob
lol, people who throw around "ad hominem", but don't know what it really means.
Pitznik wrote...
He wouldn't. If he dies rarely he can actually just use more or less the same amount of medi gels as he gets in PSPs. How many PSPs can you buy playing silver alone, how many of them will contain medigel? I have almost no medi-gel, yet I don't think I die often - 0 -1 per game as Kroguard, maybe 2 - 3 times per game as other classes. Sometimes more, if I have a bad day or try something I am not comfortable with (Oh, Phoenix Adept, how many medigels you owe me) Silver. I don't pop medigel unless it is needed or I am embarassed by my stupidity. So I pretty much use what I get in PSPs, but still am permanently on low number.Ashen Earth wrote...
Pitznik wrote...
Maybe OP doesn't die at all, so he doesn't buy JEPs, how about that? Unlikely, not impossible, especially since he's playing silver.Ashen Earth wrote...
CmnDwnWrkn wrote...
Arkley wrote...
This forum would be better without ****** threads like this.
I guess neither of us is getting what we want.
Get lost noob. If you need a noob cannon to play the game, that's pathetic.
Your manifest points towards you being the noob CmnDwnWrkn.
I mean, Arkley even has medigel in the triple digits compared to your 5. I wonder who dies more often.
If he doesn't die at all, he would have more medigel stockpiled from recieveing it in the other packs, PSP or otherwise. I rarely die, so I have little reason to buy JEPs and it shows in my manifest.
But no, judging from his posts, his lack of understanding about the classes and what other players who have played with him say, he's a classic noob.
About other players talking - I have absolutely no idea, haven't seen anything.
MWaHa wrote...
Ashen Earth wrote...
MWaHa wrote...
Ad hominin fallacy is fallacious...
>Implying his lack of understanding of the classes, blatantly ignorant posts, and comments made by other players who have played with him are irrelevant to my argument that he is a noob
lol, people who throw around "ad hominem", but don't know what it really means.
All of these arguments about who's a noob and who isn't are irrelevant to whether the game is better with or without the Krysae.
Oh, it's not. I just pointed out the flaw in AshenEarth's logic. Nothing to do with your arguement about noobs, or even less with the OP. Just offtopic.CmnDwnWrkn wrote...
I would say I die as much as the people I play with, on average. No more and no less. My medigel use does tend to be excessive, I'll admit to that. I often medi-gel instantly, even when there's a teammate nearby. It's something to work on. And I've been buying a lot of SPs and PSPs lately, and haven't been getting much gel out of them. I don't see what the big deal is.
Arkley wrote...
This forum would be better without ****** threads like this.
I guess neither of us is getting what we want.
CmnDwnWrkn wrote...
The game was fine without it, and it was better without it. The way to end the Inflitrator/Krysae nerf insanity is to remove the weapon that is causing the problem in the first place - the Kruhshay sniper cannon rifle long-range proximity mine missle.
Sniper rifle was already the most powerful weapon class without it. It's simply overkill to have this in the game. It's a totally unnecessary weapon. If it was taken out, the unskilled players who rely on it would cry for a couple of days, and then they'd get over it. And the nerf talk would disappear. And the game would be brought closer back into balance.
It would be good for everyone and for the long-term playability of this game.
In short: Don't nerf it; DELETE it.
CmnDwnWrkn wrote...
The game was fine without it, and it was better without it. The way to end the Inflitrator/Krysae nerf insanity is to remove the weapon that is causing the problem in the first place - the Kruhshay sniper cannon rifle long-range proximity mine missle.
Sniper rifle was already the most powerful weapon class without it. It's simply overkill to have this in the game. It's a totally unnecessary weapon. If it was taken out, the unskilled players who rely on it would cry for a couple of days, and then they'd get over it. And the nerf talk would disappear. And the game would be brought closer back into balance.
It would be good for everyone and for the long-term playability of this game.
In short: Don't nerf it; DELETE it.
Pitznik wrote...
Oh, it's not. I just pointed out the flaw in AshenEarth's logic. Nothing to do with your arguement about noobs, or even less with the OP. Just offtopic.CmnDwnWrkn wrote...
I would say I die as much as the people I play with, on average. No more and no less. My medigel use does tend to be excessive, I'll admit to that. I often medi-gel instantly, even when there's a teammate nearby. It's something to work on. And I've been buying a lot of SPs and PSPs lately, and haven't been getting much gel out of them. I don't see what the big deal is.
Mr. Sandman wrote...
Meh, i rarely see the gun when i play random gold games so that gun doesn't bother me at all.
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CmnDwnWrkn wrote...
MWaHa wrote...
Ashen Earth wrote...
MWaHa wrote...
Ad hominin fallacy is fallacious...
>Implying
his lack of understanding of the classes, blatantly ignorant posts, and
comments made by other players who have played with him are irrelevant
to my argument that he is a noob
lol, people who throw around "ad hominem", but don't know what it really means.
All
of these arguments about who's a noob and who isn't are irrelevant to
whether the game is better with or without the Krysae. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/grin.png[/smilie]
It's
hilarious, because yesterday he attempted to define the term "ad
hominem" and got it completely wrong. And I'm not the definition police
by any means and wouldn't care normally, but he's STILL trying to
pretend like he's the only one who knows what it means, while everyone
ELSE is wrong.
Anyway, regarding the Krysae, I really don't want
to spoil peoples' fun. I do think that many Krysae infiltrators are
oblivious to how their play can ruin the gaming experience of their
teammates though.
Modifié par echo2zero, 15 juin 2012 - 08:11 .
NubXL wrote...
If only the multiplayer wasn't competitive, causing people to constantly obsess and cry about what everyone else is doing. BioWare should have made ME3's multiplayer co-op instead, so any individual boost would be a bonus for the whole team.
...oh wait, they did.
Modifié par CmnDwnWrkn, 15 juin 2012 - 08:16 .
It is a co-op game, that means one person is partially dependant on other people's actions and choices. So your game is his game too - this can be avoided through careful private lobbying, which is PITA for some. Luckily, it is not up to him, or up to you to decide, but up to Bioware. Bioware can not do it or do it, based, between many other things, on opinions like his. So he has full right to voice his opinion, even if it is about YOUR guns, and you have the same right to voice your opinion. But all sorts of "stop posting" posts are completely worthless - you're trying to forbid someone doing something well within his rights.Steelgrave wrote...
Your entire post is just your personal opinions. It's fine for you to have an opinion as long as it doesn't mess with MY game. But unfortunately your opinion means messing with MY game & that's not cool.
If you think a blue Quarian looks better than a red one that's fine. But when you start talking about taking my guns away & altering my game then we have a problem.
echo2zero wrote...
CmnDwnWrkn wrote...
MWaHa wrote...
Ashen Earth wrote...
MWaHa wrote...
Ad hominin fallacy is fallacious...
>Implying
his lack of understanding of the classes, blatantly ignorant posts, and
comments made by other players who have played with him are irrelevant
to my argument that he is a noob
lol, people who throw around "ad hominem", but don't know what it really means.
All
of these arguments about who's a noob and who isn't are irrelevant to
whether the game is better with or without the Krysae. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/grin.png[/smilie]
It's
hilarious, because yesterday he attempted to define the term "ad
hominem" and got it completely wrong. And I'm not the definition police
by any means and wouldn't care normally, but he's STILL trying to
pretend like he's the only one who knows what it means, while everyone
ELSE is wrong.
Anyway, regarding the Krysae, I really don't want
to spoil peoples' fun. I do think that many Krysae infiltrators are
oblivious to how their play can ruin the gaming experience of their
teammates though.
Does it really mess people up that bad...?
I've played with (360) maybe a dozen matches with Infiltrators using it and their scores have been mediocre. On silver or bronze there really isn't a point to it. Seriously destroys the fun. How do you feel about someone using that combo on Gold? Is it messing the game up for people?
Modifié par CmnDwnWrkn, 15 juin 2012 - 08:17 .
CmnDwnWrkn wrote...
echo2zero wrote...
CmnDwnWrkn wrote...
MWaHa wrote...
Ashen Earth wrote...
MWaHa wrote...
Ad hominin fallacy is fallacious...
>Implying
his lack of understanding of the classes, blatantly ignorant posts, and
comments made by other players who have played with him are irrelevant
to my argument that he is a noob
lol, people who throw around "ad hominem", but don't know what it really means.
All
of these arguments about who's a noob and who isn't are irrelevant to
whether the game is better with or without the Krysae. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/grin.png[/smilie]
It's
hilarious, because yesterday he attempted to define the term "ad
hominem" and got it completely wrong. And I'm not the definition police
by any means and wouldn't care normally, but he's STILL trying to
pretend like he's the only one who knows what it means, while everyone
ELSE is wrong.
Anyway, regarding the Krysae, I really don't want
to spoil peoples' fun. I do think that many Krysae infiltrators are
oblivious to how their play can ruin the gaming experience of their
teammates though.
Does it really mess people up that bad...?
I've played with (360) maybe a dozen matches with Infiltrators using it and their scores have been mediocre. On silver or bronze there really isn't a point to it. Seriously destroys the fun. How do you feel about someone using that combo on Gold? Is it messing the game up for people?
From what people have said, it doesn't seem to be as big an issue on Gold. I play mostly Silver these days, and occassional Bronze, so those are the levels shaping my perspective.
I personally think that rare and UR weapons should be toned down a little on the lower levels. Maybe not on Silver, but definitely on Bronze.
Pitznik wrote...
It is a co-op game, that means one person is partially dependant on other people's actions and choices. So your game is his game too - this can be avoided through careful private lobbying, which is PITA for some. Luckily, it is not up to him, or up to you to decide, but up to Bioware. Bioware can not do it or do it, based, between many other things, on opinions like his. So he has full right to voice his opinion, even if it is about YOUR guns, and you have the same right to voice your opinion. But all sorts of "stop posting" posts are completely worthless - you're trying to forbid someone doing something well within his rights.Steelgrave wrote...
Your entire post is just your personal opinions. It's fine for you to have an opinion as long as it doesn't mess with MY game. But unfortunately your opinion means messing with MY game & that's not cool.
If you think a blue Quarian looks better than a red one that's fine. But when you start talking about taking my guns away & altering my game then we have a problem.
Modifié par Steelgrave, 15 juin 2012 - 08:20 .
CmnDwnWrkn wrote...
I personally think that rare and UR weapons should be toned down a little on the lower levels. Maybe not on Silver, but definitely on Bronze.
Modifié par CmnDwnWrkn, 15 juin 2012 - 08:23 .
Did I leave something out? Was I supposed to throw a tantrum so you'd relate and understand what I was saying? You're whining about something that has zero impact on your game. Scores are combined for the whole team, so individual scores are meaningless in the grand scheme of things. The only thing being damaged by this gun and its users is your fragile ego because apparently people are killing more pixels than you and it hurts you deeply. I'd say this is more of a personal problem than anything relating to Mass Effect 3.CmnDwnWrkn wrote...
NubXL wrote...
If only the multiplayer wasn't competitive, causing people to constantly obsess and cry about what everyone else is doing. BioWare should have made ME3's multiplayer co-op instead, so any individual boost would be a bonus for the whole team.
...oh wait, they did.
Too passive-aggressive to be worthy of consideration. Trying writing what you really feel.
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