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#151
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Guys you reallyneed to stop or your giong to get yourselves banned. If you can play nice don't play with each other. These are personal attacks on each other are bannable offenses.Play nice. fear the BAN HAMMER.

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CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

The game was fine without it, and it was better without it.  The way to end the Inflitrator/Krysae nerf insanity is to remove the weapon that is causing the problem in the first place - the Kruhshay sniper cannon rifle long-range proximity mine missle.

Sniper rifle was already the most powerful weapon class without it.  It's simply overkill to have this in the game.  It's a totally unnecessary weapon.  If it was taken out, the unskilled players who rely on it would cry for a couple of days, and then they'd get over it.  And the nerf talk would disappear.  And the game would be brought closer back into balance.

It would be good for everyone and for the long-term playability of this game.

In short: Don't nerf it; DELETE it.



And here is another person complaining about the Krysae. I take it you don't have it lol. Go figure lol. Too many people complain about weapons they don't have because they are at the bottom of the points list. Well guess what, you still get the SAME XP at the end of the match like everyone else. So stop complaining!!

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You need five or six shots to kill a normal enemy(with shield) on a gold match using the kyrsae. I really don't understand why some people like to complain so much about how this weapon supposedly broke the game.

If you don't like the gun don't use and if you don't want to play with people who are using it you can also leave the match, after all the players can see which weapons the others are going to use.

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.458 wrote...

WandererRTF wrote...

.458 wrote...

FYI, everyone wants a sense of progress and improvement. Adding something that has a new trick, like the krysae, is not in and of itself bad. Trouble is that players do not feel they are working together or on the same side...some get jealous. Instead of nerfing or removing what someone is jealous of, it would be better to make maps and waves make people feel they are glad they have teammates. Right now it just seems a lot of people treat the game as 4 single players sharing a map.

Where on earth do you pick this 'jealous' up? Have you not read what has been posted. People who have used the gun and topped the charts with it hate it. It has nothing to do with being jealous.


You are jealous of people topping the charts. Apparently you feel you are not getting your share of glory for working as hard or harder than the other people with the krysae. How is that? Resentment, not jealousy.


I top the charts plenty often, both with and without my Krysae, even when other players are using the Krysae. And I want the Krysae nerfed.

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Psycho Pisces wrote...

How cute, you edited your post to seem more moderate... Pressing the eject button.. There's no sense discussion with someone who attacks first, and after replies are made edits their post to seem more ... Stable.

Take a break dude, maybe this game's just not for you.


I'll tell you exactly the edit I made, since you are trying to make an invalid assertion about it...

I changed

"You spent a lot of money on weapons, so what."

to

"You spent a lot of money on packs to get weapons, so what."

...because technically you're buying packs, and not weapons directly.

Yep, that's what I changed, which means you're talking out of your ass and need to grow up.

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B.Shep wrote...

You need five or six shots to kill a normal enemy(with shield) on a gold match using the kyrsae. I really don't understand why some people like to complain so much about how this weapon supposedly broke the game.

If you don't like the gun don't use and if you don't want to play with people who are using it you can also leave the match, after all the players can see which weapons the others are going to use.

Not only that, you need 5-6 shots to even kill a brute. One shot only takes off two armor bars. Its a anti-Reaper weapon for goodness sake!

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B.Shep wrote...

You need five or six shots to kill a five or six or seven normal enemyenemies(with shield) on a gold match using the kyrsae.


Fixed

Modifié par MWaHa, 15 juin 2012 - 09:40 .


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Nah, it doesn't need to go anywhere.

Ever since the nerf, The Krysae spam has died down significantly on all levels (Xbox 360 here). And personally, if people do well with the Krysae on Gold, then I welcome them on my team over someone who can't handle themselves in Gold. Now, the game is perfectly fine with the Krysae in the game.

Really, I don't see the point in making this thread, it's plainly obvious the weapon is never going to be removed because of the sentiments of a very small minority.

Modifié par OblivionDawn, 15 juin 2012 - 09:45 .


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MWaHa wrote...

B.Shep wrote...

You need five or six shots to kill a five or six or seven normal enemyenemies(with shield) on a gold match using the kyrsae.


Fixed

Don't know what Krysae your using but boy would I lkie to get my hands on that!

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OblivionDawn wrote...

Nah, it doesn't need to go anywhere.

Ever since the nerf, The Krysae spam has died down significantly on all levels (Xbox 360 here). And personally, if people do well with the Krysae on Gold, then I welcome them on my team over someone who can't handle themselves in Gold. Now, the game is perfectly fine with the Krysae in the game.

Really, I don't see the point in making this thread, it's plainly obvious the weapon is never going to be removed because of the sentiments of a very small minority.

Exactly. Do you really think Bioware would go to all this trouble to add a brand new weapon, then remove it? Doesn't make sense from a buisness standpoint

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B.Shep wrote...

You need five or six shots to kill a normal enemy(with shield) on a gold match using the kyrsae. I really don't understand why some people like to complain so much about how this weapon supposedly broke the game.

If you don't like the gun don't use and if you don't want to play with people who are using it you can also leave the match, after all the players can see which weapons the others are going to use.


You're doing it wrong...  5 or 6 shots to kill a shielded enemy on Gold?  What are you shooting at?  Are you using an Infi?  If not, you're doing it wrong.  

Takes me 2 or 3 (plus energy drain) for shielded enemies with health.  Takes 4 or 5 for shielded enemies with armor.  Although, I have to admit, I haven't taken it since the minor nerf it recieved that didn't fix the one and only problem with the Krysae.  

Proximity Detonation in a sniper is stupid.  Aiming is fun.

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darkrogueninja wrote...

Ive said this already, but ill say it again. People who complain about the Krysae fail to understand the Valiant is simply better. It can one shot target with a Tact. Cloak buff, which the Krysae could also do. The reason people complain about the Krysae is it could not only take out targets in one shot with the Tact. Cloak buff, it could do so without the buff


I would give up my Krysae and Reegar in a heartbeat if it meant I'd get a Valiant. I loved that gun in the SP and I would love to love it more in the MP. 

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CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

100RenegadePoints wrote...

I play on pc, gold, nobody uses this thing anyways, I guess because is it so boring... So just leave it as it is, players will get bored of it soon...


PC probably has the most mature players, so I can see people choosing to opt out of using it.  On the consoles though, it shows up in every game.


Yeah...and its giving Infiltrators a bad name

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jordie3000 wrote...

darkrogueninja wrote...

Ive said this already, but ill say it again. People who complain about the Krysae fail to understand the Valiant is simply better. It can one shot target with a Tact. Cloak buff, which the Krysae could also do. The reason people complain about the Krysae is it could not only take out targets in one shot with the Tact. Cloak buff, it could do so without the buff


I would give up my Krysae and Reegar in a heartbeat if it meant I'd get a Valiant. I loved that gun in the SP and I would love to love it more in the MP. 

I feel so bad for. My friend got the Valiant on both of his accounts in his first victory pack. I was jealous

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darkrogueninja wrote...

Ive said this already, but ill say it again. People who complain about the Krysae fail to understand the Valiant is simply better. It can one shot target with a Tact. Cloak buff, which the Krysae could also do. The reason people complain about the Krysae is it could not only take out targets in one shot with the Tact. Cloak buff, it could do so without the buff

To summarize the issue with it, proximity detonations and area effect damage. Which in combined means that you don't need to aim and that you have a weapon that can shoot any target in cover while getting full bonus from TC. Add the ability to ignore shield-gating as a cherry on the top.

I personally have no problems what so ever with the damage it can inflict onto a single target. I'm fine with that - indeed i did welcome Krysae as a long waited alternative to BW, initially. Problem is in my opinion that, as above, the AoE and proxy detonations are combined with TC bonuses.

On hindsight it does seem rather peculiar how supposedly precision firing class gains damage bonuses when firing inherently imprecise or area effect weapons (talking about Krysae as well as shotguns - excluding Crusader).

Modifié par WandererRTF, 15 juin 2012 - 09:51 .


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3.5 stars of out 5.

Not a terrible thread, despite the OP.

Op, the trick to trolling is to actually have a decent argument. Something you sorely lack.
Also, for the love of god, when people call you out with archival evidence that you're not such a good player you should simply ignore them or explain why it may appear a certain way whilst being condescending(without it being obvious). Vagueness is your friend.

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Qeylis wrote...

Proximity Detonation in a sniper is stupid.  Aiming is fun.


This

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WandererRTF wrote...

darkrogueninja wrote...

Ive said this already, but ill say it again. People who complain about the Krysae fail to understand the Valiant is simply better. It can one shot target with a Tact. Cloak buff, which the Krysae could also do. The reason people complain about the Krysae is it could not only take out targets in one shot with the Tact. Cloak buff, it could do so without the buff

To summarize the issue with it, proximity detonations and area effect damage. Which in combined means that you don't need to aim and that you have a weapon that can shoot any target in cover while getting full bonus from TC. Add the ability to ignore shield-gating as a cherry on the top.

I personally have no problems what so ever with the damage it can inflict onto a single target. I'm fine with that - indeed i did welcome Krysae as a long waited alternative to BW, initially. Problem is in my opinion, as above, the AoE and proxy detonations combined with TC bonuses.

On hindsight it does seem rather peculiar how supposedly precision firing class gains damage bonuses when firing inherently imprecise or area effect weapons (talking about Krysae as well as shotguns - excluding Crusader).

True. The AoE on the Krysae is what the true issues is. Its much like the issue with Carnage. The Krysae is like firing carnage from a sniper. oh wait... Thats exactly what it is!

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WARMACHINE9 wrote...

MWaHa wrote...

B.Shep wrote...

You need five or six shots to kill a five or six or seven normal enemyenemies(with shield) on a gold match using the kyrsae.


Fixed

Don't know what Krysae your using but boy would I lkie to get my hands on that!


You just aim it into a crowd. It takes equal amounts of time to kill one emeny as it does to kill mobs of enemies. Why one would be firing the krysae at just one normal enemy is something I have never understood.

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Kick In The Door wrote...

3.5 stars of out 5.

Not a terrible thread, despite the OP.

Op, the trick to trolling is to actually have a decent argument. Something you sorely lack.
Also, for the love of god, when people call you out with archival evidence that you're not such a good player you should simply ignore them or explain why it may appear a certain way whilst being condescending(without it being obvious). Vagueness is your friend.


0/5 stars for the post.  No real content, nothing to gain from reading it, useless all around.

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Yajuu Omoi wrote...

Qeylis wrote...

Proximity Detonation in a sniper is stupid.  Aiming is fun.


This


/signed

I used the krysae for a while, and then I went back to my valiant, and I suddenly sucked so hard with it. I was like, holy cow, using a krysae has completely atrophied my aiming skill.

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CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

Kick In The Door wrote...

3.5 stars of out 5.

Not a terrible thread, despite the OP.

Op, the trick to trolling is to actually have a decent argument. Something you sorely lack.
Also, for the love of god, when people call you out with archival evidence that you're not such a good player you should simply ignore them or explain why it may appear a certain way whilst being condescending(without it being obvious). Vagueness is your friend.


0/5 stars for the post.  No real content, nothing to gain from reading it, useless all around.


I'd expect nothing less from someone as brilliant as yourself. Tell me, do you use paper or plastic when you're bagging groceries?

Oh and inb4lock  

:alien:;)

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Kick In The Door wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

Kick In The Door wrote...

3.5 stars of out 5.

Not a terrible thread, despite the OP.

Op, the trick to trolling is to actually have a decent argument. Something you sorely lack.
Also, for the love of god, when people call you out with archival evidence that you're not such a good player you should simply ignore them or explain why it may appear a certain way whilst being condescending(without it being obvious). Vagueness is your friend.


0/5 stars for the post.  No real content, nothing to gain from reading it, useless all around.


I'd expect nothing less from someone as brilliant as yourself. Tell me, do you use paper or plastic when you're bagging groceries?

Oh and inb4lock  

:alien:;)


I guarantee you that my intelligence surpasses yours in every possible way.  What measure do you want to go by?

Doesn't scrubbing toilets get repetitive?

Modifié par CmnDwnWrkn, 15 juin 2012 - 09:59 .


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MWaHa wrote...

WARMACHINE9 wrote...

MWaHa wrote...

B.Shep wrote...

You need five or six shots to kill a five or six or seven normal enemyenemies(with shield) on a gold match using the kyrsae.


Fixed

Don't know what Krysae your using but boy would I lkie to get my hands on that!


You just aim it into a crowd. It takes equal amounts of time to kill one emeny as it does to kill mobs of enemies. Why one would be firing the krysae at just one normal enemy is something I have never understood.

If its Gold my other team mates usually are armed with things like widows and carnis and ETC. Usually all I end up doing is tenderizing the enemy for themImage IPB

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WandererRTF wrote...

On hindsight it does seem rather peculiar how supposedly precision firing class gains damage bonuses when firing inherently imprecise or area effect weapons (talking about Krysae as well as shotguns - excluding Crusader).

Its not as bad with shotguns, since only general Tcloak's bonuses are added. Krysae being an SR gets full bonus, including rank 6 evolution. Like I said before, Krysae got only scope from sniper rifle, its all other qualities simply belong to another type of weapon.