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Uh i have seen 2 people in total use it both infiltrators with it at X I have used it and on bronze its amazingly OP but on eveything else nope does just enough damage to be alright on gold I much prefer my claymore or the hurricane this argument is invalid not because of the subject but because the op cant even be civil and listen to and discuss counterpoints without yelling and calling names like a four year old which is sad because this issue needs to be discussed or the nerf this buff that threads will never end

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CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

The game was fine without it, and it was better without it.  The way to end the Inflitrator/Krysae nerf insanity is to remove the weapon that is causing the problem in the first place - the Kruhshay sniper cannon rifle long-range proximity mine missle.

Sniper rifle was already the most powerful weapon class without it.  It's simply overkill to have this in the game.  It's a totally unnecessary weapon.  If it was taken out, the unskilled players who rely on it would cry for a couple of days, and then they'd get over it.  And the nerf talk would disappear.  And the game would be brought closer back into balance.

It would be good for everyone and for the long-term playability of this game.

In short: Don't nerf it; DELETE it.


This game would be better without whiners.

Krsyae is fun but i can score just as high with paladin IV + max damage spec prox mines GI

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This game would be better without kiddies wanting everything to get nerfed in a co-op game because they got outscored.


Edit: wrong link originally

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/343/index/12594721/1#12594721

Modifié par MWaHa, 15 juin 2012 - 11:51 .


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Oh look, another thread by CmdDwnWrkn (seriously, what did vowels ever do to you?) that leaves even the trained eye wondering whether it's well done trolling or immense ignorance with a dash of superiority complex.
So yesterday it was engineers, today it's deleting the krysae, what next? A rant about how batarians should get enhanced vision from their extra eyes?

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MWaHa wrote...

djarlaks10 wrote...

This game would be better without kiddies wanting everything to get nerfed in a co-op game because they got outscored.


Edit: wrong link originally

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/343/index/12594721/1#12594721

Okay, so you want it get nerfed. Why? Because it's powerful? Maybe it is (I don't play as an infiltarator so I haven't tried Krysae myself), but then, again, how does a gun that is used by other people affect your own experience in a co-op game?

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100RenegadePoints wrote...

I guess because is it so boring... So just leave it as it is, players will get bored of it soon...


Couldn't agree more. I tried it once and I was falling asleep the whole game because I was so bored using it. Never again.

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This game would be better without players complaining about weapons that help the team win.

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mpompeo27 wrote...

100RenegadePoints wrote...

I guess because is it so boring... So just leave it as it is, players will get bored of it soon...


Couldn't agree more. I tried it once and I was falling asleep the whole game because I was so bored using it. Never again.


Have it maxed to X and I never pull it out.  FYI, Saber Rules.

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I just unlocked it today and it does seem ridiculous on bronze.

Haven't tried it one the other difficulties yet.

Still think I'll prefer the black widow though I can't lvl it (or the valiant):( .

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78stonewobble wrote...

I just unlocked it today and it does seem ridiculous on bronze.

Haven't tried it one the other difficulties yet.

Still think I'll prefer the black widow though I can't lvl it (or the valiant):( .


Woah!  Hold the phones!  A rare weapon is powerful on bronze?!

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100RenegadePoints wrote...

I play on pc, gold, nobody uses this thing anyways, I guess because is it so boring... So just leave it as it is, players will get bored of it soon...


Pretty much this.  Same reason people often leave a FBWGG game because it's predictable and not as fun as Reapers or Cerberus gold.

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darkrogueninja wrote...

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Nah, it doesn't need to go anywhere.

Ever since the nerf, The Krysae spam has died down significantly on all levels (Xbox 360 here). And personally, if people do well with the Krysae on Gold, then I welcome them on my team over someone who can't handle themselves in Gold. Now, the game is perfectly fine with the Krysae in the game.

Really, I don't see the point in making this thread, it's plainly obvious the weapon is never going to be removed because of the sentiments of a very small minority.

Exactly. Do you really think Bioware would go to all this trouble to add a brand new weapon, then remove it? Doesn't make sense from a buisness standpoint


Exactly. It doesn't make sense from any standpoint.

The majority of people who play ME3MP don't browse the forums, or even know we exist. Bioware is not going to outright remove a weapon from the majority of their playerbase because of some nebulous force (the forumites). People like OP are blowing the situation MAJORLY out of proportion, and what he proposes just isn't going to happen.

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someone was outscored by an infiltrator with the krysae me thinks

there there, have this cookie and stop crying

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djarlaks10 wrote...

MWaHa wrote...

djarlaks10 wrote...

This game would be better without kiddies wanting everything to get nerfed in a co-op game because they got outscored.


Edit: wrong link originally

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/343/index/12594721/1#12594721

Okay, so you want it get nerfed. Why? Because it's powerful? Maybe it is (I don't play as an infiltarator so I haven't tried Krysae myself), but then, again, how does a gun that is used by other people affect your own experience in a co-op game?


I posted that because it's just wrong to assume that people want everything to get nerfed, not to say that I wanted this to get nerfed. But seeing as how I do want this nerfed, how does it impact my experience?

An infiltrator with a krysae can kill entire mobs unbelievably quickly. If one of my infiltrator teammates has a Krysae and I'm anywhere close to him, it's always "Oh I think I'll shoot that enemy . . . wait . . . it's dead, and so is the mob it was a part of. No problem, I'll just turn around and . . . oh, those are all done, too. I'll just go to the other part of the map to find new en . . . wait . . . the infiltrator has already been there, oh, well I'm sure there's one around here somewhere that hasn't been killed yet that I can get one shot at . . . mission complete? WTF?"

Seriously, if one of your teammates is an infiltrator with a krysae, the only thing you're going to be doing is attacking bosses.

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Everyone screams Krysae is overpowered!. I have seen plenty of krysae players die using it, so let them get over the novelty of it. Besides, before krysae ppl screamed Kishock overpowered! Before that it was Black Widow/javelin/Geth plasma shotgun are overpowered! Unless they nerf or remove everything except a marshmellow shooter, a nerf gun and a nerf bat people will still whine about over-powered things!

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I'd rather you cry about it for a few days and get over it.  This has been an AMAZING addition that now gives us the ability to manage the rushes of phantoms we face.  Having one person on a team with one is a great addition to the team's ability to handle a multitude of enemies.  I personally couldn't care less if you like it or not.  What I know is that almost every single team I've been on yet has appreciated the hell out of it when I choose to bring it with me.  It is not only fun, but it serves a specific purpose and is immensely useful.  But overpowered to the point of making the game worse?  Not a chance.  Gold is still plenty challenging with it, for both the user and the team.  It has its weaknesses as well but overall it's one of the best weapons they've come up with.

Devs, GREAT job with this weapon.  99% of the community is grateful for it and finds it amazing.  Keep up the good work!

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IAMREALITY wrote...

Devs, GREAT job with this weapon.  99% of the community is grateful for it and finds it amazing.  Keep up the good work!


Well said! Some like it, some don't. Some are good with it, some aren't. Just like all the other weapons in the game. Don't want it used in your games? Fine, either kick or just host a private game. Nobody says YOU HAVE to use it! Nuff said!

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i agree krysae was an epic failure from bioware.

first an example , me MQE area incinarate/ arc nades , fights 5 mobs weakens them up, guy with krysae camps 20m behind me sees where i shoot fires 1 shot at my feet , yes he shot on me killed everything. WTF is this? this fun?

Bioware should accept the fact they made a mistake and either remove it or make score damage on impact with target all the rest are bs from gold wannabes.

I got crysae X ,its useless , its only annoying , it will never outscore any decent shooter with a decent weapon .

Also , krysae lovers => accept u got no skill

PS.. for the valiant ,its not as good as some ppl think , nowhere close to a BW hitting on bigger enemies and its useless on armor even find the humble mantis more effective against certain enemies like guardians try it.

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mrwizeguy wrote...

i agree krysae was an epic failure from bioware.

first an example , me MQE area incinarate/ arc nades , fights 5 mobs weakens them up, guy with krysae camps 20m behind me sees where i shoot fires 1 shot at my feet , yes he shot on me killed everything. WTF is this? this fun?

Bioware should accept the fact they made a mistake and either remove it or make score damage on impact with target all the rest are bs from gold wannabes.

I got crysae X ,its useless , its only annoying , it will never outscore any decent shooter with a decent weapon .

Also , krysae lovers => accept u got no skill

PS.. for the valiant ,its not as good as some ppl think , nowhere close to a BW hitting on bigger enemies and its useless on armor even find the humble mantis more effective against certain enemies like guardians try it.


And people wonder where the "You're mad because you got outscored /got your kills stolen" argument comes from.

It's guys like this.

Modifié par OblivionDawn, 16 juin 2012 - 12:57 .


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mrwizeguy wrote...

i agree krysae was an epic failure from bioware.

first an example , me MQE area incinarate/ arc nades , fights 5 mobs weakens them up, guy with krysae camps 20m behind me sees where i shoot fires 1 shot at my feet , yes he shot on me killed everything. WTF is this? this fun?

Bioware should accept the fact they made a mistake and either remove it or make score damage on impact with target all the rest are bs from gold wannabes.

I got crysae X ,its useless , its only annoying , it will never outscore any decent shooter with a decent weapon .

Also , krysae lovers => accept u got no skill

PS.. for the valiant ,its not as good as some ppl think , nowhere close to a BW hitting on bigger enemies and its useless on armor even find the humble mantis more effective against certain enemies like guardians try it.

So, for you, fun = the amount of killz you make and some stupid numbers at the end of the match that mean squat. I'm actually happy that I'm playing only with friends.

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OblivionDawn wrote...

mrwizeguy wrote...

i agree krysae was an epic failure from bioware.

first an example , me MQE area incinarate/ arc nades , fights 5 mobs weakens them up, guy with krysae camps 20m behind me sees where i shoot fires 1 shot at my feet , yes he shot on me killed everything. WTF is this? this fun?

Bioware should accept the fact they made a mistake and either remove it or make score damage on impact with target all the rest are bs from gold wannabes.

I got crysae X ,its useless , its only annoying , it will never outscore any decent shooter with a decent weapon .

Also , krysae lovers => accept u got no skill

PS.. for the valiant ,its not as good as some ppl think , nowhere close to a BW hitting on bigger enemies and its useless on armor even find the humble mantis more effective against certain enemies like guardians try it.


And people wonder where the "You're mad because you got outscored /got your kills stolen" argument comes from.

It's guys like this.

1. who mantion score u troll?
2. wtf am i doing in the game, if i m support for useless floor shooting krysae users somebody didnt tell me about it .
3. admit u r useless and u need the krysae so u can score and i ll be cool , make a petition to be able to carry all your cobra stck in a round , whats the point having them sitting there when u can use them. noobtards LOL

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mrwizeguy wrote...

1. who mantion score u troll?
2. wtf am i doing in the game, if i m support for useless floor shooting krysae users somebody didnt tell me about it .
3. admit u r useless and u need the krysae so u can score and i ll be cool , make a petition to be able to carry all your cobra stck in a round , whats the point having them sitting there when u can use them. noobtards LOL

1. You've been raging how you were killing everyone left and right and then some Krysae-wielding guy stole your kills.
2. Ever tried playing a co-op orientiered game? Someone has to play support, and not everyone must be John Rambo if you want to succeed.
3. Well, I know it's not directed at me, but still, I'm not using Krysae because I'm playing as an adept and KSo only, however I'm firmly against the idea of nerfs.

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mrwizeguy wrote...

OblivionDawn wrote...

mrwizeguy wrote...

i agree krysae was an epic failure from bioware.

first an example , me MQE area incinarate/ arc nades , fights 5 mobs weakens them up, guy with krysae camps 20m behind me sees where i shoot fires 1 shot at my feet , yes he shot on me killed everything. WTF is this? this fun?

Bioware should accept the fact they made a mistake and either remove it or make score damage on impact with target all the rest are bs from gold wannabes.

I got crysae X ,its useless , its only annoying , it will never outscore any decent shooter with a decent weapon .

Also , krysae lovers => accept u got no skill

PS.. for the valiant ,its not as good as some ppl think , nowhere close to a BW hitting on bigger enemies and its useless on armor even find the humble mantis more effective against certain enemies like guardians try it.


And people wonder where the "You're mad because you got outscored /got your kills stolen" argument comes from.

It's guys like this.

1. who mantion score u troll?
2. wtf am i doing in the game, if i m support for useless floor shooting krysae users somebody didnt tell me about it .
3. admit u r useless and u need the krysae so u can score and i ll be cool , make a petition to be able to carry all your cobra stck in a round , whats the point having them sitting there when u can use them. noobtards LOL


1: No one, but you are clearly mad about having your kills stolen.

2: This is a co-op game, we help each other in this game. You don't need to mention score to make it obvious that you prioritize it and start crying when people outscore you.

3: The tears are practically flowing. Keep it up.

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OblivionDawn wrote...

mrwizeguy wrote...

OblivionDawn wrote...

mrwizeguy wrote...

i agree krysae was an epic failure from bioware.

first an example , me MQE area incinarate/ arc nades , fights 5 mobs weakens them up, guy with krysae camps 20m behind me sees where i shoot fires 1 shot at my feet , yes he shot on me killed everything. WTF is this? this fun?

Bioware should accept the fact they made a mistake and either remove it or make score damage on impact with target all the rest are bs from gold wannabes.

I got crysae X ,its useless , its only annoying , it will never outscore any decent shooter with a decent weapon .

Also , krysae lovers => accept u got no skill

PS.. for the valiant ,its not as good as some ppl think , nowhere close to a BW hitting on bigger enemies and its useless on armor even find the humble mantis more effective against certain enemies like guardians try it.


And people wonder where the "You're mad because you got outscored /got your kills stolen" argument comes from.

It's guys like this.

1. who mantion score u troll?
2. wtf am i doing in the game, if i m support for useless floor shooting krysae users somebody didnt tell me about it .
3. admit u r useless and u need the krysae so u can score and i ll be cool , make a petition to be able to carry all your cobra stck in a round , whats the point having them sitting there when u can use them. noobtards LOL


1: No one, but you are clearly mad about having your kills stolen.

2: This is a co-op game, we help each other in this game. You don't need to mention score to make it obvious that you prioritize it and start crying when people outscore you.

3: The tears are practically flowing. Keep it up.

maybe you need help. i dont.
usually.. i even offer help.
now , its not about score or stealing , when fighting i input a certain amount of effort right? right i guess, my reward for that input is succeeding at what im on thus killing that group of enemies. we agree so far? good , some shootin thin air achieving what i been bustin my ass just dosent feel fair to me . u agree little trolling noob? thaaaaaank you.

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Rated M for mature.