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[D24O]

wryterra wrote...

Seival wrote...

Joker: Hello, Commander!
Shepard: Hello.
Joker: So, how do you like Geth Consensus?
Shepard: Well, it was... strange. Never had such feelings before.
Joker: Was?
Shepard: Heh?
Joker: Are you really sure you actually quitted the Consensus?
Shepard: Of course I'm sure! I just passed through that...
Joker: ...Through what?
Shepard: Err...
Joker: Commander, did you press "Exit" button?
Shepard: "Exit" bu... LEGION! WHERE IS EXIT BUTTON?
Legion: We don't use buttons, Shepard Commander, they are constructional weakness...
Shepard: O_o... N... N... NNN... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!


Epilogue: Dear "IT"ers. Please, try to disprove this. And when you will manage to do so, I will use exactly the same arguments to disprove your own theory.

Thanks in advance

I'll counter your argument as soon as you offer one. Right now you have a suggestion without any backing. List your evidence that supports the idea, then we can debate whether the evidence is valid or not. 

This thread isn't that serious.

[SauliusL]

Seival wrote...

SauliusL wrote...

Seival wrote...

Joker: Hello, Commander!
Shepard: Hello.
Joker: So, how do you like Geth Consensus?
Shepard: Well, it was... strange. Never had such feelings before.
Joker: Was?
Shepard: Heh?
Joker: Are you really sure you actually quitted the Consensus?
Shepard: Of course I'm sure! I just passed through that...
Joker: ...Through what?
Shepard: Err...
Joker: Commander, did you press "Exit" button?
Shepard: "Exit" bu... LEGION! WHERE IS EXIT BUTTON?
Legion: We don't use buttons, Shepard Commander, they are constructional weakness...
Shepard: O_o... N... N... NNN... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!


Epilogue: Dear "IT"ers. Please, try to disprove this. And when you will manage to do so, I will use exactly the same arguments to disprove your own theory.

Thanks in advance

Actually there is a lot of truth in your idea. And it ADDS to IT
I even think that Geth consensus level was made specially for us to see that we can enter AI with our mind. It's like another hint about the mental battle which might be happening in the end

But can't actually exit, becouse some particular robots don't have any idea about UI's usability... Someone please help Shepard to find the "Exit" button

...Yes, everything after Consensus mission didn't really happen.

It happened The geth consensus was just a hint, and example from bioware to show what is possible with AI. And reapers ARE AI

[Taboo]

Mr. Big Pimpin wrote...

alec1898 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

We don't need no education
We dont need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Seival leave them kids alone
Hey! Seival! Leave them kids alone!
All in all it's just another brick in the wall.
All in all you're just another brick in the wall.

Money is easilly the best Pink Floyd song, and that is all I have to say.

Echoes. That is all.

We need to have a poll about this.

[wryterra]

D24O wrote...

wryterra wrote...

Seival wrote...

Joker: Hello, Commander!
Shepard: Hello.
Joker: So, how do you like Geth Consensus?
Shepard: Well, it was... strange. Never had such feelings before.
Joker: Was?
Shepard: Heh?
Joker: Are you really sure you actually quitted the Consensus?
Shepard: Of course I'm sure! I just passed through that...
Joker: ...Through what?
Shepard: Err...
Joker: Commander, did you press "Exit" button?
Shepard: "Exit" bu... LEGION! WHERE IS EXIT BUTTON?
Legion: We don't use buttons, Shepard Commander, they are constructional weakness...
Shepard: O_o... N... N... NNN... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!


Epilogue: Dear "IT"ers. Please, try to disprove this. And when you will manage to do so, I will use exactly the same arguments to disprove your own theory.

Thanks in advance

I'll counter your argument as soon as you offer one. Right now you have a suggestion without any backing. List your evidence that supports the idea, then we can debate whether the evidence is valid or not. 

This thread isn't that serious.

The thread is meant to 'hold a mirror up' to IT. IT has literally 1,000s of pages of posts of evidence, conjecture and suggestion, but the OP is saying that their single post fan-fiction is exactly the same as IT. 

My point is that no, it isn't. The comparisan is invalid because IT has had a case made for it, whether you agree with that case or not. 

[garrusfan1]

Wait what I ugh this is idiotic makes no sense

[Mr. Big Pimpin]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Mr. Big Pimpin wrote...

alec1898 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

We don't need no education
We dont need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Seival leave them kids alone
Hey! Seival! Leave them kids alone!
All in all it's just another brick in the wall.
All in all you're just another brick in the wall.

Money is easilly the best Pink Floyd song, and that is all I have to say.

Echoes. That is all.

We need to have a poll about this.

Maybe; it'd probably be unbalanced by all the people only famliar with DSotM and The Wall though.

[Taboo]

Mr. Big Pimpin wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Mr. Big Pimpin wrote...

alec1898 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

We don't need no education
We dont need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Seival leave them kids alone
Hey! Seival! Leave them kids alone!
All in all it's just another brick in the wall.
All in all you're just another brick in the wall.

Money is easilly the best Pink Floyd song, and that is all I have to say.

Echoes. That is all.

We need to have a poll about this.

Maybe; it'd probably be unbalanced by all the people only famliar with DSotM and The Wall though.

We could include solo works as well.

I'm listening to Radio KAOS right now.

[D24O]

wryterra wrote...

D24O wrote...

wryterra wrote...

Seival wrote...

Joker: Hello, Commander!
Shepard: Hello.
Joker: So, how do you like Geth Consensus?
Shepard: Well, it was... strange. Never had such feelings before.
Joker: Was?
Shepard: Heh?
Joker: Are you really sure you actually quitted the Consensus?
Shepard: Of course I'm sure! I just passed through that...
Joker: ...Through what?
Shepard: Err...
Joker: Commander, did you press "Exit" button?
Shepard: "Exit" bu... LEGION! WHERE IS EXIT BUTTON?
Legion: We don't use buttons, Shepard Commander, they are constructional weakness...
Shepard: O_o... N... N... NNN... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!


Epilogue: Dear "IT"ers. Please, try to disprove this. And when you will manage to do so, I will use exactly the same arguments to disprove your own theory.

Thanks in advance

I'll counter your argument as soon as you offer one. Right now you have a suggestion without any backing. List your evidence that supports the idea, then we can debate whether the evidence is valid or not. 

This thread isn't that serious.

The thread is meant to 'hold a mirror up' to IT. IT has literally 1,000s of pages of posts of evidence, conjecture and suggestion, but the OP is saying that their single post fan-fiction is exactly the same as IT. 

My point is that no, it isn't. The comparisan is invalid because IT has had a case made for it, whether you agree with that case or not. 

If you want real theories, check out the kai leng fight scene support thread.

[Seival]

wryterra wrote...

Seival wrote...

Joker: Hello, Commander!
Shepard: Hello.
Joker: So, how do you like Geth Consensus?
Shepard: Well, it was... strange. Never had such feelings before.
Joker: Was?
Shepard: Heh?
Joker: Are you really sure you actually quitted the Consensus?
Shepard: Of course I'm sure! I just passed through that...
Joker: ...Through what?
Shepard: Err...
Joker: Commander, did you press "Exit" button?
Shepard: "Exit" bu... LEGION! WHERE IS EXIT BUTTON?
Legion: We don't use buttons, Shepard Commander, they are constructional weakness...
Shepard: O_o... N... N... NNN... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!


Epilogue: Dear "IT"ers. Please, try to disprove this. And when you will manage to do so, I will use exactly the same arguments to disprove your own theory.

Thanks in advance

I'll counter your argument as soon as you offer one. Right now you have a suggestion without any backing. List your evidence that supports the idea, then we can debate whether the evidence is valid or not. 

Where is my "IT"-counter-argumentation notepad?... Here it is

Ok, so:

"I'll counter your argument as soon as you offer one. Right now you have a suggestion without any backing. List your evidence that supports the idea, then we can debate whether the evidence is valid or not."

Thanks a lot. Keep going

Modifié par Seival, 16 juin 2012 - 06:09 .

[Grimwick]

Seival wrote...

Grimwick wrote...

Did you miss the bit where THIS NEVER HAPPENED?
Pure 100% speculation proves nothing. there is no justification for this theory and the burden of proof lies on YOU! You can't turn around and say disprove me, that's not how logic works.

IT theorists have at least provided circumstancial evidence to back up their speculations. You have provided absolutely none.

There's no point in even replying to a thread which is based on making events up.

A nice counter-argument that can be used against "IT"ers absolutely the same way. Thanks

Read my post again please.

You know, the bit where ITers have circumstantial evidence to support some of their claims.

You have none.

[Jadebaby]

So.. where in the game does this conversation occur?

Edit: after bothering to read a bit the thread unravelled as I predicted.

4/10 OP.

Is spiderman illegal now or something?

2ND edit: OP, check out my thread where I try to explain synthesis using... wait for it.... In game lore.
http://social.biowar.../index/12607240

Modifié par Jade8aby88, 16 juin 2012 - 07:21 .

[Seival]

Grimwick wrote...

Seival wrote...

Grimwick wrote...

Did you miss the bit where THIS NEVER HAPPENED?
Pure 100% speculation proves nothing. there is no justification for this theory and the burden of proof lies on YOU! You can't turn around and say disprove me, that's not how logic works.

IT theorists have at least provided circumstancial evidence to back up their speculations. You have provided absolutely none.

There's no point in even replying to a thread which is based on making events up.

A nice counter-argument that can be used against "IT"ers absolutely the same way. Thanks

Read my post again please.

You know, the bit where ITers have circumstantial evidence to support some of their claims.

You have none.

You really looking in the mirror here, Grimwick. This is exactly what most anti"IT"ers think about the "IT". "IT"ers literally have no evidence at all.

[jijeebo]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

So.. where in the game does this conversation occur?

Edit: after bothering to read a bit the thread unravelled as I predicted.

4/10 OP.

Is spiderman illegal now or something?

2ND edit: OP, check out my thread where I try to explain synthesis using... wait for it.... In game lore.
http://social.biowar.../index/12607240

I got in trouble for spider-manning... So I guess other people did as well.


His threads always brought a smile to my face.

[M Hedonist]

Seival wrote...

You really looking in the mirror here, Grimwick. This is exactly what most anti"IT"ers think about the "IT". "IT"ers literally have no evidence at all.

Oh the irony.

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Is spiderman illegal now or something?

The punishment for Spiderman is one million years dungeon. Or so people believe.

[Seival]

So please, stay civil

[estebanus]

My nuking senses are tingling...

[Grimwick]

Seival wrote...

Grimwick wrote...

Seival wrote...

Grimwick wrote...

Did you miss the bit where THIS NEVER HAPPENED?
Pure 100% speculation proves nothing. there is no justification for this theory and the burden of proof lies on YOU! You can't turn around and say disprove me, that's not how logic works.

IT theorists have at least provided circumstancial evidence to back up their speculations. You have provided absolutely none.

There's no point in even replying to a thread which is based on making events up.

A nice counter-argument that can be used against "IT"ers absolutely the same way. Thanks

Read my post again please.

You know, the bit where ITers have circumstantial evidence to support some of their claims.

You have none.

You really looking in the mirror here, Grimwick. This is exactly what most anti"IT"ers think about the "IT". "IT"ers literally have no evidence at all.

I'm anti-IT but I do not dispute the fact that some circumstantial evidence exists.

Go onto the IT page and look through the masses of speculated evidence. A lot of it is irrelevant and further speculative guesswork. Some of it however is cirumcstantial support.

That statement is just incorrect.

And if this entire post is simply to spoof IT then I have no idea why it exists. There are other threads which are anti-IT just post your lunacy (no offense intended) in those.

Modifié par Grimwick, 16 juin 2012 - 09:59 .

[OH-UP-THIS!]

estebanus wrote...

Seival wrote...

byne wrote...

My opinion is the removal of choices consisting of either enslaving the Reapers or forcibly turning everyone into cyborgs preserves everything I love about the ME trilogy, but I respect your opinion as well.

By the way, you should explain this to some "IT"ers. Because somehow they think otherwise, and even trying to prove me that you didn't suggest the removal at all.

We have differeing opinions, you know. I for one don't view synthesis or control as critical msiion failures. I'd like there to be paragon and renegade interrupts in between so that an indoctrinated Shepard still can save the galaxy.

Could you possibly re-read this, and try not to laugh yourself into OBLIVION?

[BP20125810]

Don;t like the whole "mark I" buisness you got goin on there

[RADIUMEYEZ]

Seival wrote...

Joker: Hello, Commander!
Shepard: Hello.
Joker: So, how do you like Geth Consensus?
Shepard: Well, it was... strange. Never had such feelings before.
Joker: Was?
Shepard: Heh?
Joker: Are you really sure you actually quitted the Consensus?
Shepard: Of course I'm sure! I just passed through that...
Joker: ...Through what?
Shepard: Err...
Joker: Commander, did you press "Exit" button?
Shepard: "Exit" bu... LEGION! WHERE IS EXIT BUTTON?
Legion: We don't use buttons, Shepard Commander, they are constructional weakness...
Shepard: O_o... N... N... NNN... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!


Epilogue: Dear "IT"ers. Please, try to disprove this. And when you will manage to do so, I will use exactly the same arguments to disprove your own theory.

Thanks in advance

Obvious troll is obvious

[estebanus]

ohupthis wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Seival wrote...

byne wrote...

My opinion is the removal of choices consisting of either enslaving the Reapers or forcibly turning everyone into cyborgs preserves everything I love about the ME trilogy, but I respect your opinion as well.

By the way, you should explain this to some "IT"ers. Because somehow they think otherwise, and even trying to prove me that you didn't suggest the removal at all.

We have differeing opinions, you know. I for one don't view synthesis or control as critical msiion failures. I'd like there to be paragon and renegade interrupts in between so that an indoctrinated Shepard still can save the galaxy.

Could you possibly re-read this, and try not to laugh yourself into OBLIVION?

What I meant was that if Shepard ends up being indoctrinated, s/he can still save the galaxy by meeting the requirements, like saving the rachni queen or saving Eve, and through a series of renegade/paragon interrupts.

[Seival]

BP20125810 wrote...

Don;t like the whole "mark I" buisness you got goin on there

CT can't be "Mark II" right away. It was just created

[Seival]

Grimwick wrote...

Seival wrote...

Grimwick wrote...

Seival wrote...

Grimwick wrote...

Did you miss the bit where THIS NEVER HAPPENED?
Pure 100% speculation proves nothing. there is no justification for this theory and the burden of proof lies on YOU! You can't turn around and say disprove me, that's not how logic works.

IT theorists have at least provided circumstancial evidence to back up their speculations. You have provided absolutely none.

There's no point in even replying to a thread which is based on making events up.

A nice counter-argument that can be used against "IT"ers absolutely the same way. Thanks

Read my post again please.

You know, the bit where ITers have circumstantial evidence to support some of their claims.

You have none.

You really looking in the mirror here, Grimwick. This is exactly what most anti"IT"ers think about the "IT". "IT"ers literally have no evidence at all.

I'm anti-IT but I do not dispute the fact that some circumstantial evidence exists.

Go onto the IT page and look through the masses of speculated evidence. A lot of it is irrelevant and further speculative guesswork. Some of it however is cirumcstantial support.

That statement is just incorrect.

And if this entire post is simply to spoof IT then I have no idea why it exists. There are other threads which are anti-IT just post your lunacy (no offense intended) in those.

All that "IT"ers really have is some funny "proofs" like "dream-plant" asset name, and other similar things. I can't take that more seriously than my OP in this thread.

...I really respect "IT"ers opinion. But I respect it only as a parody on the endings, nothing more.

[Seival]

SauliusL wrote...

Seival wrote...

SauliusL wrote...

Seival wrote...

Joker: Hello, Commander!
Shepard: Hello.
Joker: So, how do you like Geth Consensus?
Shepard: Well, it was... strange. Never had such feelings before.
Joker: Was?
Shepard: Heh?
Joker: Are you really sure you actually quitted the Consensus?
Shepard: Of course I'm sure! I just passed through that...
Joker: ...Through what?
Shepard: Err...
Joker: Commander, did you press "Exit" button?
Shepard: "Exit" bu... LEGION! WHERE IS EXIT BUTTON?
Legion: We don't use buttons, Shepard Commander, they are constructional weakness...
Shepard: O_o... N... N... NNN... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!


Epilogue: Dear "IT"ers. Please, try to disprove this. And when you will manage to do so, I will use exactly the same arguments to disprove your own theory.

Thanks in advance

Actually there is a lot of truth in your idea. And it ADDS to IT
I even think that Geth consensus level was made specially for us to see that we can enter AI with our mind. It's like another hint about the mental battle which might be happening in the end

But can't actually exit, becouse some particular robots don't have any idea about UI's usability... Someone please help Shepard to find the "Exit" button

...Yes, everything after Consensus mission didn't really happen.

It happened The geth consensus was just a hint, and example from bioware to show what is possible with AI. And reapers ARE AI

How can you be so sure?

...Or how can you be so sure that Shepard woke up at all after the beacon hit her in ME1?

...Or maybe you are just dreaming right now, and ME3 was not even released yet? How can you disprove that?

Don't you feel that you are trapped inside your own illusions?

[Seival]

D24O wrote...

If Joker steps on my foot in the consensus, and I feel it, does it really cause pain?

Well, I think that you will believe that it was pain